You already lost and you don't even know it Pat.

In all seriousness, I would recommend the subie before the audi. I'm only giving you a hard time b.c I care.

all lies^ lol

If your looking for a quiet, comfortable cruiser, test drive the 7 speed automatic in the G37.

*** My Mom has a 2010 Maxima. It's an impressive car. The only things I don't like about it are front wheel drive & CVT transmission.

i can deal with the FWD but that CVT has got to go! :roflpuke2:

i might end up with a 7AT since those are a lot easier to find but the 6 spd is my preference and usually a bit cheaper. not to mention in the used market the 6 spd typically drives the price down since most people buying a car at that price level don't want manual

What about a 335 sedan?

go with lexus. im glad i got the lexus. so NICE

One of my best friends has an IS350 and it's definitely a very nice car. But both the 335 and Is350 might be out of the 20K price range.

Pontiac G8 GXP

no bmw, no mercedes. too expensive to fix and too unreliable with 100k+ miles. i know the audi isn't much better but at least i know my way around the platform...

back seat/rear area is not large enough for what i want (i'd be pushing it in the S4 honestly), and i've driven them before, i wasn't that impressed :rolleyes:

not a bad thought^ i'll look into what the prices are but the GXP's are pretty rare and the only way to get a manual trans with the v8 iirc in the G8.

Mazda Speed 3? Its a great car not sure if anyone has mentioned yet. Sorry if its already been mentioned.

yeah but so much damn fun that car is. you really just have to drive one

i like the MS3's a lot but i'm looking for something more Lux oriented than that. also, a bit cramped imo, i'm looking for a bigger mid-size car.

i'll put it on my list bud. i'll take your word for it :tup: