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Kirkster 10-05-2011 07:17 PM

RIP Steve Jobs.
 
Super sad now...

Been using Apple gear since 79.... Very sad...


Respect.

Trips 10-05-2011 07:18 PM

RiP Steve Jobs You will be missed

phelan 10-05-2011 07:30 PM

RIP Steve Jobs, an innovator that forever changed the landscape of the computer industry. You will be missed...or reviled forever, depending on which system you support.

Still, his achievements and innovative thinking will continue impact the industry. I hope that Apple doesn't slide back, like the last time he left the company.

Vapiano 10-05-2011 07:38 PM

RIP Steve, you changed the World.

BLACK BEAST Z 10-05-2011 07:40 PM

Thank you Steve Jobs, you made the world a better place. You will be missed

Zaggeron 10-05-2011 07:41 PM

RIP Mr. Jobs

KillerBee370 10-05-2011 07:41 PM

Boy he pulled out just at the last second didn't he?

TreeSemdyZee 10-05-2011 07:41 PM

Just heard this a few minutes ago. Very sad. Brilliant man.

nmjaxx9 10-05-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 1345754)
Boy he pulled out just at the last second didn't he?

Yeah he just stepped down from the position of CEO, very sad news indeed R.I.P.

birdmanx1 10-05-2011 08:21 PM

That is such sad news!

lauj 10-06-2011 01:01 AM

R.I.P. Steve Jobs. One of the best CEO

bigaudiofanat 10-06-2011 07:22 AM

I could not even believe it when my friend told me yesterday.

It seems like just yesterday I bought my first ipod the mini.

http://www.topicpoint.com/ipod_mini_..._mini_2g_a.jpg




RIP Steve

WhiskeyHotel 10-06-2011 07:26 AM

Godspeed, Steve.

wheee! 10-06-2011 07:35 AM

As a former Apple Technician, I had a chance to be part of the magic in the late 90's and early 2000's. What a time to be involved! The return of Steve Jobs and the return of Apple to it's former glory!
Steve was not a warm and fuzzy guy and had a reputation for being a very difficult boss, but a very shrewd business man! I never met the man, but I always respected him.
I remember the ad campaign "The Crazy Ones" where they had images of Ghandi, Dizzy Gillespie, Einstein, Picasso etc and the tagline that they "changed the world".

Here's to you Steve. Thanks for changing the world.

Red__Zed 10-06-2011 07:35 AM

Damn...cannot believe it

Footloose301 10-06-2011 08:47 AM

Yeah it sucks. He really did leave just at the right time.

FuszNissan 10-06-2011 09:34 AM

You will be missed, probably the best CEO of our era

mtaxelson 10-06-2011 09:37 AM

who is this steve jobs everyone is talking about?

nmjaxx9 10-06-2011 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtaxelson (Post 1346330)
who is this steve jobs everyone is talking about?

Only the co-founder of Apple and chief executive of Pixar animations and former CEO of Apple!!!!

christian370z 10-06-2011 11:32 AM

As a person, I do not like him at all. He was rude, arrogant and cutthroat to anyone and everyone. But as a visionary and innovator, I respect and admire him as one of the defining technology leaders of our generation. He left a truly incredible legacy behind.

DarkZide 10-06-2011 01:58 PM

He wasn't even innovative. The majority of the technology apple used was stolen or licensed from other companies (typically stolen). The only patents they have are for silly things like the general shape of a device. I could go on and on about why this is being blown way out of proportion but in the end it doesnt matter.

wheee! 10-06-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1346758)
He wasn't even innovative. The majority of the technology MICROSOFT used was stolen or licensed from other companies (typically stolen). The only patents they have are for silly things like the general operation of a device. I could go on and on about why this is being blown way out of proportion but in the end it doesnt matter.

There! Fixed it for you!

Cmike2780 10-06-2011 02:11 PM

Like him or hate him, you gotta respect the guy.

I thought this was a pretty good speech he gave:

Quote:

I am honored to be with you today at your commencement from one of the finest universities in the world. I never graduated from college. Truth be told, this is the closest I've ever gotten to a college graduation. Today I want to tell you three stories from my life. That's it. No big deal. Just three stories.

The first story is about connecting the dots.

I dropped out of Reed College after the first 6 months, but then stayed around as a drop-in for another 18 months or so before I really quit. So why did I drop out?

It started before I was born. My biological mother was a young, unwed college graduate student, and she decided to put me up for adoption. She felt very strongly that I should be adopted by college graduates, so everything was all set for me to be adopted at birth by a lawyer and his wife. Except that when I popped out they decided at the last minute that they really wanted a girl. So my parents, who were on a waiting list, got a call in the middle of the night asking: "We have an unexpected baby boy; do you want him?" They said: "Of course." My biological mother later found out that my mother had never graduated from college and that my father had never graduated from high school. She refused to sign the final adoption papers. She only relented a few months later when my parents promised that I would someday go to college.

And 17 years later I did go to college. But I naively chose a college that was almost as expensive as Stanford, and all of my working-class parents' savings were being spent on my college tuition. After six months, I couldn't see the value in it. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life and no idea how college was going to help me figure it out. And here I was spending all of the money my parents had saved their entire life. So I decided to drop out and trust that it would all work out OK. It was pretty scary at the time, but looking back it was one of the best decisions I ever made. The minute I dropped out I could stop taking the required classes that didn't interest me, and begin dropping in on the ones that looked interesting.

It wasn't all romantic. I didn't have a dorm room, so I slept on the floor in friends' rooms, I returned coke bottles for the 5¢ deposits to buy food with, and I would walk the 7 miles across town every Sunday night to get one good meal a week at the Hare Krishna temple. I loved it. And much of what I stumbled into by following my curiosity and intuition turned out to be priceless later on. Let me give you one example:

Reed College at that time offered perhaps the best calligraphy instruction in the country. Throughout the campus every poster, every label on every drawer, was beautifully hand calligraphed. Because I had dropped out and didn't have to take the normal classes, I decided to take a calligraphy class to learn how to do this. I learned about serif and san serif typefaces, about varying the amount of space between different letter combinations, about what makes great typography great. It was beautiful, historical, artistically subtle in a way that science can't capture, and I found it fascinating.

None of this had even a hope of any practical application in my life. But ten years later, when we were designing the first Macintosh computer, it all came back to me. And we designed it all into the Mac. It was the first computer with beautiful typography. If I had never dropped in on that single course in college, the Mac would have never had multiple typefaces or proportionally spaced fonts. And since Windows just copied the Mac, it's likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do. Of course it was impossible to connect the dots looking forward when I was in college. But it was very, very clear looking backwards ten years later.

Again, you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something — your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life.

My second story is about love and loss.

I was lucky — I found what I loved to do early in life. Woz and I started Apple in my parents garage when I was 20. We worked hard, and in 10 years Apple had grown from just the two of us in a garage into a $2 billion company with over 4000 employees. We had just released our finest creation — the Macintosh — a year earlier, and I had just turned 30. And then I got fired. How can you get fired from a company you started? Well, as Apple grew we hired someone who I thought was very talented to run the company with me, and for the first year or so things went well. But then our visions of the future began to diverge and eventually we had a falling out. When we did, our Board of Directors sided with him. So at 30 I was out. And very publicly out. What had been the focus of my entire adult life was gone, and it was devastating.

I really didn't know what to do for a few months. I felt that I had let the previous generation of entrepreneurs down - that I had dropped the baton as it was being passed to me. I met with David Packard and Bob Noyce and tried to apologize for screwing up so badly. I was a very public failure, and I even thought about running away from the valley. But something slowly began to dawn on me — I still loved what I did. The turn of events at Apple had not changed that one bit. I had been rejected, but I was still in love. And so I decided to start over.

I didn't see it then, but it turned out that getting fired from Apple was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner again, less sure about everything. It freed me to enter one of the most creative periods of my life.

During the next five years, I started a company named NeXT, another company named Pixar, and fell in love with an amazing woman who would become my wife. Pixar went on to create the worlds first computer animated feature film, Toy Story, and is now the most successful animation studio in the world. In a remarkable turn of events, Apple bought NeXT, I returned to Apple, and the technology we developed at NeXT is at the heart of Apple's current renaissance. And Laurene and I have a wonderful family together.

I'm pretty sure none of this would have happened if I hadn't been fired from Apple. It was awful tasting medicine, but I guess the patient needed it. Sometimes life hits you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith. I'm convinced that the only thing that kept me going was that I loved what I did. You've got to find what you love. And that is as true for your work as it is for your lovers. Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it. And, like any great relationship, it just gets better and better as the years roll on. So keep looking until you find it. Don't settle.

My third story is about death.

When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: "If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right." It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.

Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.

About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn't even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is doctor's code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids everything you thought you'd have the next 10 years to tell them in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.

I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy, where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with surgery. I had the surgery and I'm fine now.

This was the closest I've been to facing death, and I hope it's the closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely intellectual concept:

No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

When I was young, there was an amazing publication called The Whole Earth Catalog, which was one of the bibles of my generation. It was created by a fellow named Stewart Brand not far from here in Menlo Park, and he brought it to life with his poetic touch. This was in the late 1960's, before personal computers and desktop publishing, so it was all made with typewriters, scissors, and polaroid cameras. It was sort of like Google in paperback form, 35 years before Google came along: it was idealistic, and overflowing with neat tools and great notions.

Stewart and his team put out several issues of The Whole Earth Catalog, and then when it had run its course, they put out a final issue. It was the mid-1970s, and I was your age. On the back cover of their final issue was a photograph of an early morning country road, the kind you might find yourself hitchhiking on if you were so adventurous. Beneath it were the words: "Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish." It was their farewell message as they signed off. Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. And I have always wished that for myself. And now, as you graduate to begin anew, I wish that for you.

Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish.

Thank you all very much.
~Steve Jobs speech @ Stanford

DarkZide 10-06-2011 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1346760)
There! Fixed it for you!

Couldnt be further from the truth, actually. In the early days MS bought or licensed most things, and today hold thousands of patents on actual technological innovations. Not the shape of a device like Apple who basically stole 98% of what they have done.

Not to mention selling you less than brand name computer parts for 10 times the markup that comes loaded with an insecure and featureless (compared to windows) operating system. Real innovative.

Cmike2780 10-06-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1346813)
Couldnt be further from the truth, actually. In the early days MS bought or licensed most things, and today hold thousands of patents on actual technological innovations. Not the shape of a device like Apple who basically stole 98% of what they have done.

Not to mention selling you less than brand name computer parts for 10 times the markup that comes loaded with an insecure and featureless (compared to windows) operating system. Real innovative.

Both companies stole their ideas from Star Trek :p :wtf2:

daisuke149 10-06-2011 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1346813)
Couldnt be further from the truth, actually. In the early days MS bought or licensed most things, and today hold thousands of patents on actual technological innovations. Not the shape of a device like Apple who basically stole 98% of what they have done.

Not to mention selling you less than brand name computer parts for 10 times the markup that comes loaded with an insecure and featureless (compared to windows) operating system. Real innovative.

someone is butt hurt about apple products. tsk tsk.

DarkZide 10-06-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1346853)
someone is butt hurt about apple products. tsk tsk.

Try working in the industry and having people non-stop saying crap like "why do i have to use XYZ my iXYZ is ten times better" only to explain to them why its not better, and why it cant function at all outside of browing the internet or playing angry birds, only for them to give you a blank stare and tell you that you dont know what you are doing because they should get to use (inferior, insecure, unreliable) apple stuff at work.

Then multiply that by 10000 times over the past few years.

daisuke149 10-06-2011 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1346859)
Try working in the industry and having people non-stop saying crap like "why do i have to use XYZ my iXYZ is ten times better" only to explain to them why its not better, and why it cant function at all outside of browing the internet or playing angry birds, only for them to give you a blank stare and tell you that you dont know what you are doing because they should get to use (inferior, insecure, unreliable) apple stuff at work.

Then multiply that by 10000 times over the past few years.

butt hurt it is. No good for your health.

kenchan 10-06-2011 04:04 PM

RIP to steve jobs. :(

Red__Zed 10-06-2011 04:09 PM

Shame how many people have no respect. Save the arguments for another thread.

bigaudiofanat 10-06-2011 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1347010)
Shame how many people have no respect. Save the arguments for another thread.

X2

Kirkster 10-06-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1346865)
butt hurt it is. No good for your health.

:iagree:

I always laugh at people like him... Have been using Apple in the business (Tech Manufacturer) world for years with nary a problem except for ignorant IT people. Who in general can't do much besides reset you passwords when you get back from a long vacation.

There are exceptions but they are rare...

Dwight Frye 10-06-2011 06:00 PM

No discounting the man's genius and contributions to technology, but he also gave millions of dollars to the Democratic party. The Democrats declared war upon me some years ago and they are my political enemies. For Job's helping elect them, I boycotted all Apple products and would urinate upon his grave.

Kirkster 10-06-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Frye (Post 1347158)
No discounting the man's genius and contributions to technology, but he also gave millions of dollars to the Democratic party. The Democrats declared war upon me some years ago and they are my political enemies. For Job's helping elect them, I boycotted all Apple products and would urinate upon his grave.

And you still live in Kalifornia why???

DarkZide 10-06-2011 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1347155)
:iagree:

I always laugh at people like him... Have been using Apple in the business (Tech Manufacturer) world for years with nary a problem except for ignorant IT people. Who in general can't do much besides reset you passwords when you get back from a long vacation.

There are exceptions but they are rare...

riiiiiiiiight. Keep telling yourself that.

Cmike2780 10-06-2011 06:35 PM

Seriously, this is more childish than people arguing which game console is better. What's that old saying....opinions are like ********, everyone's got one.

Dwight Frye 10-07-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1347161)
And you still live in Kalifornia why???

Because I have a good job, own a home that is still worth 2X what I paid for it, my family & friends are here and tomorrow I am going to the beach where I can observe nubile bikini clad women playing volleyball in the middle of October where it will be sunny and 75 degrees.
What other reasons would I need ?

370zFORme!! 10-07-2011 06:03 PM

The MS is better than Apple argument is sooooo last year. Apple for life, MS sucks! RIP Steve Jobs.

370zFORme!! 10-07-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1346758)
He wasn't even innovative. The majority of the technology apple used was stolen or licensed from other companies (typically stolen). The only patents they have are for silly things like the general shape of a device. I could go on and on about why this is being blown way out of proportion but in the end it doesnt matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1346813)
Couldnt be further from the truth, actually. In the early days MS bought or licensed most things, and today hold thousands of patents on actual technological innovations. Not the shape of a device like Apple who basically stole 98% of what they have done.

Not to mention selling you less than brand name computer parts for 10 times the markup that comes loaded with an insecure and featureless (compared to windows) operating system. Real innovative.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1346859)
Try working in the industry and having people non-stop saying crap like "why do i have to use XYZ my iXYZ is ten times better" only to explain to them why its not better, and why it cant function at all outside of browing the internet or playing angry birds, only for them to give you a blank stare and tell you that you dont know what you are doing because they should get to use (inferior, insecure, unreliable) apple stuff at work.

Then multiply that by 10000 times over the past few years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide (Post 1347213)
riiiiiiiiight. Keep telling yourself that.

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a...0265992468.jpg

Alchemy 10-07-2011 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1347219)
Seriously, this is more childish than people arguing which game console is better. What's that old saying....opinions are like ********, everyone's got one.

Seriously, we all know the PS3 is better:p

It amazes me that a man that rich still cant beat cancer, what a b!tch. Just goes to show money cant buy everything. Sad news but we all go sometime. Wonder how Mr Gates feels about all this....


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