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Baer383 04-18-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1060572)
I think a few weekends at the track with a z probably gets close to the cost of a bike.

Not unless your weekend at the track with your z cost $60k:tiphat:

Red__Zed 04-18-2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1060577)
Not unless your weekend at the track with your z cost $60k:tiphat:

Then you overpaid for "custom" work.

Baer383 04-18-2011 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1060598)
Then you overpaid for "custom" work.

That just shows me you don't know sh!t about how much Harelys and custom work costs.:nutswinger:

Red__Zed 04-18-2011 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1060610)
That just shows me you don't know sh!t about how much Harelys and custom work costs.:nutswinger:

Have a build thread? I'd love to see what you did with 60 grand.

cossie1600 04-18-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1060577)
Not unless your weekend at the track with your z cost $60k:tiphat:

Prius=25K, 370Z=29K, my tow vehicle=42K. Yup I can't afford your Harley.

The funny thing is that the train track is closer to my house. I also get buses and trucks going past the same road, yet I rarely hear them. Who wants to get raped in the ear?

A built Harley is slower than my SUV hahaha, it's sad. I guess you can take it to some bike shows and have other guys stroke your ego.

Baer383 04-18-2011 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1060618)
Prius=25K, 370Z=29K, my tow vehicle=42K. Yup I can't afford your Harley.

The funny thing is that the train track is closer to my house. I also get buses and trucks going past the same road, yet I rarely hear them. Who wants to get raped in the ear?

A built Harley is slower than my SUV hahaha, it's sad. I guess you can take it to some bike shows and have other guys stroke your ego.

Like I said can't afford a Harley.

cossie1600 04-18-2011 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1060629)
Like I said can't afford a Harley.

It must be all the noise damaging your brain cells, it must be hard to do simple math after having rape yourself in the ears

tranceformer 04-18-2011 07:56 PM

I always close my windows when I hear one coming up. All they do is convert gas into noise, IMO>

Baer383 04-18-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tranceformer (Post 1060695)
I always close my windows when I hear one coming up. All they do is convert gas into noise, IMO>

You guys are funny,you sit here and bash motorcycles being loud when almost every Z on this forum(including mine)has a very load exhaust.

If the cops aren't busting my balls about how loud my bike is then it's not a problem I think the problem is some of you guys just don't like it.

To bad.:hello:

dad 04-18-2011 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1060702)
You guys are funny,you sit here and bash motorcyles being loud when almost every Z on this forum(including mine)has a very load exhaust.

If the cops aren't busting my balls about how loud my bike is then it's not a problem I think the problem is some of you guys just don't like it.

To bad.:hello:

There really should be a law on how many decibels of noise a motorcycle produces!
"By the way you misspelled motorcycles"!

Red__Zed 04-18-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1060702)
You guys are funny,you sit here and bash motorcyles being loud when almost every Z on this forum(including mine)has a very load exhaust.

If the cops aren't busting my balls about how loud my bike is then it's not a problem I think the problem is some of you guys just don't like it.

To bad.:hello:

My only problem is with the obnoxiously loud (95dB+ ) bikes. I have the same problem with super loud cars.

cossie1600 04-18-2011 08:36 PM

I am with Red Zed. I don't care if it is a Ferrari/Mustang/Prius/370Z. Annoying is annoying no matter how you look at it, especially for a non track car. Heck, I am not a fan of spec Miatas exhaust doing track days during non racing event either. Sometimes people why race tracks can't be built easily in this country...

See post #1, I hate loud cars as much as I hate loud bikes, especially the really slow ones.

daisuke149 04-18-2011 08:52 PM

this is interesting. OP doesnt like something, personal opinion, thinks it should be eliminated off the face of the earth.

P.S so what if people start bitching that they hate fast cars. Should those be eliminated and not allowed either? I mean you hate slow cars, slow cars hate you. who wins that.

kellyefields 04-18-2011 09:05 PM

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What did you say? I could not hear you over my v8 barstool.

cossie1600 04-18-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1060770)
P.S so what if people start bitching that they hate fast cars. Should those be eliminated and not allowed either? I mean you hate slow cars, slow cars hate you. who wins that.

I have a fast car and a fast truck, I don't go around my neighborhood at 150mph creating a hazard for everyone, I save the HP for safe spots. It's just common sense. What happened to respecting your neighbors/friends/people in general? Is social responsibility not taught in school or from parents anymore? It's sad.

Here is an opinion. I don't like loud cars/bikes, you can disagree.
Here is a fact. Some cars/bikes are LOUD, way above the legal limit.

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tranceformer 04-18-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1060702)
You guys are funny,you sit here and bash motorcycles being loud when almost every Z on this forum(including mine)has a very load exhaust.

If the cops aren't busting my balls about how loud my bike is then it's not a problem I think the problem is some of you guys just don't like it.

To bad.:hello:

My exhaust is pretty much stock.

What bugs me is the ridiculously loud bikes, especially the V-twin ones. There's just something I don't like about the sound they produce. Crotch rockets usually don't bother me, there's just something about a high revving motor just makes me smile. That's just my two cents.

daisuke149 04-18-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1060802)
I have a fast car and a fast truck, I don't go around my neighborhood at 150mph creating a hazard for everyone, I save the HP for safe spots. It's just common sense. What happened to respecting your neighbors/friends/people in general? Is social responsibility not taught in school or from parents anymore? It's sad.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...thParkFags.png

are you judging what is a hazard for everyone based on your own opinions or the law? And are your "safe spots" closed off tracks made for HP? or just areas where its a nice straight road? Also then i assume you never speed.. ever... and always stay under in a school zone. Cus ya know. just sayin... your thinking that your own opinions and thoughts are the way things should be.. and F-All to everyone else.

Speaking of social responsibility, how about going around stereotyping all bikers are narcissistic SOB's... thats socially responsible. On that same level of responsibility, I think people who drive blue z's and prius's are self-righteous opinionated SOB's.

:p

Im just playin around if you cant tell.

But really, lots of things you dont like, just gotta deal. Unless your sleeping in the street next to the bike as it starts up and drives off, its not actually "raping" your ears or "hurting you". you just happen to hear it.

Red__Zed 04-18-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1060823)
are you judging what is a hazard for everyone based on your own opinions or the law? And are your "safe spots" closed off tracks made for HP? or just areas where its a nice straight road? Also then i assume you never speed.. ever... and always stay under in a school zone. Cus ya know. just sayin... your thinking that your own opinions and thoughts are the way things should be.. and F-All to everyone else.

Speaking of social responsibility, how about going around stereotyping all bikers are narcissistic SOB's... thats socially responsible. On that same level of responsibility, I think people who drive blue z's and prius's are self-righteous opinionated SOB's.

:p

Im just playin around if you cant tell.

But really, lots of things you dont like, just gotta deal. Unless your sleeping in the street next to the bike as it starts up and drives off, its not actually "raping" your ears or "hurting you". you just happen to hear it.


I actually have permanent hearing damage in my right ear from a guy revving his bike on the road. Granted it was louder than usual (105dB), but it's not so far-fetched.

Red__Zed 04-18-2011 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1060770)
this is interesting. OP doesnt like something, personal opinion, thinks it should be eliminated off the face of the earth.

P.S so what if people start bitching that they hate fast cars. Should those be eliminated and not allowed either? I mean you hate slow cars, slow cars hate you. who wins that.

Loud vehicles have an effect on people around them though, and they are illegal. It's often not enforced, but it is against the law.

daisuke149 04-18-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1060834)
I actually have permanent hearing damage in my right ear from a guy revving his bike on the road. Granted it was louder than usual (105dB), but it's not so far-fetched.

there you go. See thing is.. everyones opinion of too much is different, when it gets to the point where people actually get hurt then obviously its too much. but realistically are all bikers that loud? i'm willing to bet ... not even close to alot.

Other things people have said/thought:

Some headlights are too bright...

some people think 10mph over speed limit is okay...

somethings are too loud... at 95db.. some people say 100 is too loud....

i just punched my keyboard cus the 1 button wasnt working correctly...

People have looked at my 17.3" laptop and said its too big, why do people make laptops that big.. (FU! i like the 17.3 and no one is forcing you to buy one, but i dont use it in the airplane cus thats not right to subject the guy next to me to it!)

As the great thinker of our time said... "This is life so go and have a ball. Because the world don't move to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you may not be right for some. You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have ... my opening statement. Sit, Ubu, sit. Good dog"

daisuke149 04-18-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1060837)
Loud vehicles have an effect on people around them though, and they are illegal. It's often not enforced, but it is against the law.

now i want to hear you say that you never speed, not even 1mph over the limit.. ever... cus otherwise.. seriously..

Red__Zed 04-18-2011 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1060849)
now i want to hear you say that you never speed, not even 1mph over the limit.. ever... cus otherwise.. seriously..

Haha, the Mid-A guys can testify to the fact that I don't speed...

Red__Zed 04-18-2011 09:50 PM

But don't get me on speed limits. They are failing at what they've been intended to do for quite a while since the metric used to set them is still based on car performance in the 80's.

daisuke149 04-18-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1060858)
Haha, the Mid-A guys can testify to the fact that I don't speed...

haha okay. let me dig deeper.

You dont have any downloaded music or software or tv episode or movie.

you have never smoked pot, or other substances. :P



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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1060860)
But don't get me on speed limits. They are failing at what they've been intended to do for quite a while since the metric used to set them is still based on car performance in the 80's.

yeah, unfortunately im still afraid if they do change the limits, cus as cars get better/safer drivers are seemingly getting dumber (Atlanta is baaaaad. when it rains, and they go slower, they feel cus they are going slower they can ride even closer to the bumper of the car in front). Because once you start putting limits based on the performance of cars, you really should do it based on the driver... but then how do you judge/monitor.. more electronics? more camera's? sensors? limiters? eventually.. we wont even drive. ugh. Dont like this path...

Red__Zed 04-18-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1060871)
haha okay. let me dig deeper.

You dont have any downloaded music or software or tv episode or movie.

you have never smoked pot, or other substances. :P





yeah, unfortunately im still afraid if they do change the limits, cus as cars get better/safer drivers are seemingly getting dumber (Atlanta is baaaaad. when it rains, and they go slower, they feel cus they are going slower they can ride even closer to the bumper of the car in front). Because once you start putting limits based on the performance of cars, you really should do it based on the driver... but then how do you judge/monitor.. more electronics? more camera's? sensors? limiters? eventually.. we wont even drive. ugh. Dont like this path...


Haha, I actually don't download stuff, and I'm pretty straight edge. Perhaps I'm the wrong person to look at though.

A super loud exhaust is just impolite, and shows you don't have any concern for people around you.

Speed limits were supposed to be set to the 80th percentile of free-flowing traffic. They are now set at around the 35th percentile... epic fail

daisuke149 04-18-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1060893)
Haha, I actually don't download stuff, and I'm pretty straight edge. Perhaps I'm the wrong person to look at though.

A super loud exhaust is just impolite, and shows you don't have any concern for people around you.

Speed limits were supposed to be set to the 80th percentile of free-flowing traffic. They are now set at around the 35th percentile... epic fail

damn. ok ..

hrmm.. do you come to a complete stop at stop signs??? !! never text/web surf/talk on a phone while driving (dependant upon laws in your area though : /)

cossie1600 04-18-2011 11:38 PM

As I said before, you are welcome to rape your own ears. Why is it okay for you to rape my ears? What gives you the right to make mine bleed? It is stated pretty clearly in the EPA about mufflers and their use. Some states have stricter requirement than others. If you choose to break the law, that is your choice. While you might never be caught, but you choose to put yourself over the rest of society. Isn't that the definition of selfishness and narcissism? I am not Mr. Perfect, but I choose to minimize my negative impact to society to the best of my ability.

I believe I had said this rant isn't just about bikers, stupidly loud cars are just as guilty. If you relax and stop getting so defensive, perhaps you can read the entire thread and see where I am coming from. I believe I also apologized for generalizing as I know there are not guilty parties out there. Of course there are people admitting they have the loud a$$ ones and they are proud of it, I rest my case.

I've been to the track to speed, something Harleys can't do. I do have to admit it would be interesting to see how Harleys handle the uphill esses, corkscrews and all the other fun turns around North America.

You can call me all the names you want. I have had 20+ cars, I have heard every good and bad terms tossed at me and the cars. I honestly don't give a crap as I am past the point where I have to use a car to get people to look at me (going back to the loud pipes).

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1060823)
are you judging what is a hazard for everyone based on your own opinions or the law? And are your "safe spots" closed off tracks made for HP? or just areas where its a nice straight road? Also then i assume you never speed.. ever... and always stay under in a school zone. Cus ya know. just sayin... your thinking that your own opinions and thoughts are the way things should be.. and F-All to everyone else.

Speaking of social responsibility, how about going around stereotyping all bikers are narcissistic SOB's... thats socially responsible. On that same level of responsibility, I think people who drive blue z's and prius's are self-righteous opinionated SOB's.

:p

Im just playin around if you cant tell.

But really, lots of things you dont like, just gotta deal. Unless your sleeping in the street next to the bike as it starts up and drives off, its not actually "raping" your ears or "hurting you". you just happen to hear it.


daisuke149 04-19-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1061054)
As I said before, you are welcome to rape your own ears. Why is it okay for you to rape my ears? What gives you the right to make mine bleed? It is stated pretty clearly in the EPA about mufflers and their use. Some states have stricter requirement than others. If you choose to break the law, that is your choice. While you might never be caught, but you choose to put yourself over the rest of society. Isn't that the definition of selfishness and narcissism? I am not Mr. Perfect, but I choose to minimize my negative impact to society to the best of my ability.

I believe I had said this rant isn't just about bikers, stupidly loud cars are just as guilty. If you relax and stop getting so defensive, perhaps you can read the entire thread and see where I am coming from. I believe I also apologized for generalizing as I know there are not guilty parties out there. Of course there are people admitting they have the loud a$$ ones and they are proud of it, I rest my case.

I've been to the track to speed, something Harleys can't do. I do have to admit it would be interesting to see how Harleys handle the uphill esses, corkscrews and all the other fun turns around North America.

You can call me all the names you want. I have had 20+ cars, I have heard every good and bad terms tossed at me and the cars. I honestly don't give a crap as I am past the point where I have to use a car to get people to look at me (going back to the loud pipes).

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see once again, self righteous. So you breaking the law where you choose isnt a big deal compared to others who choose to break the law where they choose.

So a guy who does nothing but charity work and help others, but drives a harley is a selfish narciccist by your definition. Boy I wish Mother Teresa drove a harley, I woulda called her a selfish narciccist when I met her back in the day.

im not getting defensive actually, if you read my posts im just playing the other side. I dont have a bike or a loud car. in fact, i like quiet cars myself. But i dont go around telling people that just cus its not my cup of tea that what they enjoy shouldnt exist. If your gonna call them out based on "law" then you sure as hell better obey every single law yourself.

and I didnt call you a name, i made a generalization about people who drive blue z's and prius's. Similar to the one you made about people with loud cars/bikes. But we can move past that as you apologized.

Since you dont know me, i dont take things like this seriously. I was watching hockey last night and responded during commercials. /shrugs

in fact, im at work now and their avaya system is down, so im sittin around going hrmm.

oh well, need to go read the other new posts over night!

Ty Weezy 04-19-2011 08:41 AM

haha love that south park episode....hilarious. I live in Philadelphia and my apartment is right next to a parking lot in olde city. On Friday and Saturday nights a group of 20 or so bikers just hang out all night in this parking lot and rev their engines till 3am. It's the worst thing in the world lol

cossie1600 04-19-2011 11:07 AM

I was watching the hockey games too, love the playoffs. Since i am back at work, i am not going to get into this again. You just don't get it apparently. It's funny given the title of this post was specific to loud motorcycles, you can lump the cars in i guess.

Let's not get started with the lame charity drives. With the gas they burn, they can easily donate a few hundred bucks to the charity.

cossie1600 04-19-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ty Weezy (Post 1061454)
haha love that south park episode....hilarious. I live in Philadelphia and my apartment is right next to a parking lot in olde city. On Friday and Saturday nights a group of 20 or so bikers just hang out all night in this parking lot and rev their engines till 3am. It's the worst thing in the world lol

rah rah rah rah rah rah

daisuke149 04-19-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1061706)
I was watching the hockey games too, love the playoffs. Since i am back at work, i am not going to get into this again. You just don't get it apparently. It's funny given the title of this post was specific to loud motorcycles, you can lump the cars in i guess.

Let's not get started with the lame charity drives. With the gas they burn, they can easily donate a few hundred bucks to the charity.

funny, from my end i'd say you just dont get it.

cossie1600 04-19-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1061740)
funny, from my end i'd say you just dont get it.

You might be right, but you are still in the minority.

daisuke149 04-19-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1061863)
You might be right, but you are still in the minority.

thats racist bro. just cus im brown. tsk tsk.

shoopajae10 04-19-2011 02:17 PM

I dislike loud motorcycles myself. Never really thought of it as ear rape but thats exactly how it feels!

christian370z 04-19-2011 02:30 PM

I don't think I have EVER heard a street car that is close to reaching the sound levels some of these bikes produce. I think some of you guys who support or are motorcyclists are taking that as a blanket statement but it is not as many riders are reasonable both in their etiquette and their noise levels. There are obnoxiously loud cars as there are obnoxiously loud bikes but the obnoxiously loud bikes are always a step above their car counter part in my experience.

Again, I can't wait until the motorcycle industry gets to enjoy emissions standards like cars do as this will level the playing field in the eyes of enthusiasts on both sides in my opinion.

ct63084 04-23-2011 01:02 PM

^Ditto

I hate loud *** harley's wakes me up all the time. It also wakes up my nephews when they visit the house. To my experience I have never heard a street car even the one's with a straight pipe louder than your usual harley's.

FL 4Motion 04-23-2011 04:18 PM

Well, my neighbor with the loud a$$ harley woke me up this morning at 6:30am. I could hear him in his driveway across the street letting the damn thing idle for like 5 minutes and then off he goes making sure to give it some extra revs to boot, waking up the everyone in a 1/4 mile radius. :mad:

buddahson 04-24-2011 02:58 PM

I agree that many bikes are too loud but I also think bikes should be louder than the cars around them. It's actually a safety issue. If your loud enough to be noticed its less likely you will be run over. I ride an R6 and I put a leo vince exhaust on it. It's quite loud when you wind it up but at normal cruising speed its just loud enough for people in their cars to hear. Since putting the exhaust on I've had fewer instances where I had to perform emergency maneuvers to avoid being run over.

Baer383 04-24-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by buddahson (Post 1071242)
I agree that many bikes are too loud but I also think bikes should be louder than the cars around them. It's actually a safety issue. If your loud enough to be noticed its less likely you will be run over. I ride an R6 and I put a leo vince exhaust on it. It's quite loud when you wind it up but at normal cruising speed its just loud enough for people in their cars to hear. Since putting the exhaust on I've had fewer instances where I had to perform emergency maneuvers to avoid being run over.

I'm sure I read something like this on post 9.:stirthepot:


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