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mark_taba85 03-30-2011 03:41 PM

Firearms questions?
 
:tiphat:

I am currently deployed but about to return home early.

I bought one of the commemorative weapons our unit was advertising, which is the SW M&P MOE carbine. I should get it a couple of months after my return. It was a steal for $880 with our unit symbol and mags.

I am interested in getting a pistol with the rifle, which is the S&W MP40 Carry/Range kit because it comes with 3 mags, a case and holster, which is perfect for when I go to the range.

The reasons why I want to get a gun is because I always wanted one, personal protection and to shoot some rounds off at the range.

I have been looking online for some cheap/good rounds.

Can some of you guys give me some suggestions on ammo to buy online? FMJ or Hollow point?

I am looking at buying the pistol at budsgunshop.

I want the SW MP40 due to its caliber and since the rounds are similar or sometimes cheaper than the 9mm. I have found a lot of interest in wolf rounds.

I am looking at buying a bulk of about 500rounds for the 5.56mm and 40SW for future uses for the range and since it is cheaper to buy in bulk. Plus i'll use the same stock pile for personal defense.

Please give me your input :)

MB370Z 03-30-2011 04:43 PM

.223*PMC X-Tac 223/5.56 - 62gr FMJ-Green Tip - 500 rds*A223PMCX

I recommend PMC X-TAC .223
500 round case for $147 is a damn good deal for these rounds. I put almost 1000 rounds of PMC through my AR without any malfunctions. I would stay away from steel case .223s such wolf, brown bear or tul.

As for the 40S&W, a good and cheap ammo for plinking you should definitely go with Blazer. They are non-reloadable but they are good for target shooting and shoots really clean.

dad 03-30-2011 04:53 PM

40S&W-WalMart!

mark_taba85 03-30-2011 05:05 PM

Thanks for replies...

MB370Z: What would you recommend for the 40SW?

Do you guys think I am thinking too large by getting bulk ammo? Do you think I should order when needed?

For plinking/personal defense....is my decision to get the 40SW wise?

DAD: besides walmart...where do you get ammo?

dad 03-30-2011 05:40 PM

I buy my ammo from WalMart only, it's cheaper than the gun shops.


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cptspeed 03-30-2011 05:49 PM

^^Iagree

mark_taba85 03-31-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 1022045)


hmm...I got tot take your word on that. How much cheaper would you say? ever compared them to online purchases?

What brands would you suggest.

I am going to check Wallie world when I get back!

do you use it for plinking? would you trust your life/family's life on them for protection?

thanks!

ClemsonWill 03-31-2011 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 1022045)

I completely agree. But last time I said that on here I got seriously flamed. It's the same stuff they carry at the gun shops for a couple bucks cheaper.

m4a1mustang 03-31-2011 11:56 AM

Walmart is a good bit cheaper. In 9mm, they sell Federal Champion FMJ for $10.47/box. Online it's $12.99.

In general, I buy any and all FMJ I can find at Wal-Mart. For defensive rounds I usually order.

dad 03-31-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ClemsonWill (Post 1023578)
I completely agree. But last time I said that on here I got seriously flamed. It's the same stuff they carry at the gun shops for a couple bucks cheaper.

That flamer is a fool, who has less money than you and I!

mark_taba85 03-31-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1023586)
Walmart is a good bit cheaper. In 9mm, they sell Federal Champion FMJ for $10.47/box. Online it's $12.99.

In general, I buy any and all FMJ I can find at Wal-Mart. For defensive rounds I usually order.

okay, I will definitely check out walmart for rounds before checking online.

I'd see some 40SW rounds for about $12-$15 online also.

Are defensive/plinking rounds similar or no difference?

m4a1mustang 03-31-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mark_taba85 (Post 1023595)
okay, I will definitely check out walmart for rounds before checking online.

I'd see some 40SW rounds for about $12-$15 online also.

Are defensive/plinking rounds similar or no difference?

Plinking rounds are just any cheap FMJ round.

Defensive rounds are hollow points that are designed to expand for maximum trauma. Premium HP rounds are pretty pricey. I think I pay around $22 for a box of 20 rounds of Speer Gold Dot 9mm hollow points. Compare that to $10.47 for a box of 50 rounds of Federal Champion FMJ target ammo.

You could still use an FMJ round for defense, though. Just probably not the ideal round.

mark_taba85 03-31-2011 12:34 PM

awesome...thanks!

I can't wait to get back so i can order my gun from buds

dad 03-31-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1023612)
Plinking rounds are just any cheap FMJ round.

Defensive rounds are hollow points that are designed to expand for maximum trauma. Premium HP rounds are pretty pricey. I think I pay around $22 for a box of 20 rounds of Speer Gold Dot 9mm hollow points. Compare that to $10.47 for a box of 50 rounds of Federal Champion FMJ target ammo.

You could still use an FMJ round for defense, though. Just probably not the ideal round.

I use nothing but FMJ's(.45).

KravMaga 03-31-2011 05:15 PM

I have a S&W MP 40. I just buy blazers. Cheap enough to throw lead downrange whenever I want, and could probably still kill someone if needed.:tup:

mark_taba85 03-31-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KravMaga (Post 1024392)
I have a S&W MP 40. I just buy blazers. Cheap enough to throw lead downrange whenever I want, and could probably still kill someone if needed.:tup:

Ooo the same one I want to get, which one exactly did you buy and how much? I want the new range/carry kit for $512.

where do you buy rounds and how much?

m4a1mustang 03-31-2011 06:09 PM

Have you handled the pistol before?

You probably want to go to a gun store and check out a bunch of different offerings to see what fits you best, especially since you are planning on carrying.

I was intent on getting a Springfield XD9SC for carry but I tried it and hated it. Got a Glock 26 instead which was the perfect feel for me.

cptspeed 03-31-2011 06:54 PM

If you are on a budget, make sure you know the price of the gun before you pick it up. I had full intentions of only spending around 600, but spent over 1000 after trying out my sig.

Anarky 03-31-2011 11:20 PM

Walmart does typically have the cheapest price on ammo. I'm not sure if you get the big gun shows in your area but that is always the cheapest place to find ammo. In Utah Theres one every 2 0r 3 months and I usually can get a 1000 rounds of 180 gr 40 S&W for $160 bucks. For your AR Typically going with the 55GR FMJ will be the cheapest and like others have said stay away from wolf and other brands like them. If you really find that you enjoy shooting reloading your own ammo is always the best way to go you can prob reload 1000 rounds of 40 S&W for around $100 give or take depending on powder and primers you use 1000 rounds of .223 55gr FMJ can be reloaded for about $120 to $150. Good luck and happy shooting

Isamu 04-01-2011 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cptspeed (Post 1024534)
If you are on a budget, make sure you know the price of the gun before you pick it up. I had full intentions of only spending around 600, but spent over 1000 after trying out my sig.

but it was 100% worth it, wasn't it? :tup:

KravMaga 04-01-2011 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mark_taba85 (Post 1024464)
Ooo the same one I want to get, which one exactly did you buy and how much? I want the new range/carry kit for $512.

where do you buy rounds and how much?

I purchased at last duty station so I paid no taxes. I usually buy ammo on a couple different Internet sites.

I really like the pistol. With the medium size hand- grips, fits my hands perfect. Shot some glocks also, but went to this instead but can't remember specific reasons.

mark_taba85 04-01-2011 02:32 PM

My initial intentions were to carry, but I think the only carrying i'd actually do is to have it with me in the car when I go on travels and possibly have it on me when I am in a strange area. Although, i'll take the CC class just to have it.

I never handled it because I only knew about it while I was out here in afghanistan but will definitely check it out and others when I get back.

brian0128 04-01-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mark_taba85 (Post 1021768)
:tiphat:

I have found a lot of interest in wolf rounds.

I am looking at buying a bulk of about 500rounds for the 5.56mm

Please give me your input :)

I would steer clear of the Wolf if you plan on keeping this weapon for many years to come which it sounds like you will since it will be a memento.

AR's require clean burning ammo. If you want cheap ammo, go with Radway green, South african surplus in the green totes or that south korean stuff in the tan battle packs. It's fairly cheap and build to NATO specs.

I've seen some super high pressure failures with Wolfe blowing out extractors and such. Shoot decent ammo unless it's an AK, they are made to shoot wolf ammo. The lacquer finish (older Wolf ammo) or polymer coating(newer Wolf ammo) on the steel cases keeps them from rusting, but it transfers onto the chamber and over time will cause your chamber to run out of Saami spec.

cptspeed 04-01-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1025145)
but it was 100% worth it, wasn't it? :tup:

Thats a big 10-4.

mark_taba85 04-02-2011 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian0128 (Post 1027236)
I would steer clear of the Wolf if you plan on keeping this weapon for many years to come which it sounds like you will since it will be a memento.

AR's require clean burning ammo. If you want cheap ammo, go with Radway green, South african surplus in the green totes or that south korean stuff in the tan battle packs. It's fairly cheap and build to NATO specs.

I've seen some super high pressure failures with Wolfe blowing out extractors and such. Shoot decent ammo unless it's an AK, they are made to shoot wolf ammo. The lacquer finish (older Wolf ammo) or polymer coating(newer Wolf ammo) on the steel cases keeps them from rusting, but it transfers onto the chamber and over time will cause your chamber to run out of Saami spec.

everything I buy/own I baby them.

It was suggested by another member to get PMC rounds, which went for about $147 for 500rnds. Looked good.

Any suggestions?


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