Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3938816)

Never said he had an issue with his dog. I said we haven't seen what he has due to his frequent flights.

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3938821)

The list is long and I just provide the obvious for sake of discussion. A dog that is not trained to provide a service and is not certified no matter what it is is not a service animal by definition!

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 3938828)

I agree, but not everyone that could use a service dog can get one, there are shortages of trained dogs a lot of times, but they can get and train an emotional support dog which can can provide a lot of the same support/service. Heck, a lot of times, the calming, steady emotional support IS the service.



With physical issues like stroke, paralysis etc, the service dog is opening doors, turning on lights etc, with psychiatric issues, it really is emotional support, as well as alerting on the stress etc. the training requirements or certification isn’t going to be at the same level, most household dogs with good obedience and socializing training could probably to it.



The VA treats ptsd service dogs as second class service dogs and does not provide the same level of support to them (Ex. vet coverage) compared to physical service dogs. I suppose this issue triggers me bc when I hear “all dogs provide emotional support” or something to that effect, it goes in the same line as when someone treats combat related brain damage and psychiatric injuries as somehow not the same as physical wounds.

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3938829)

The issue is not that you can't get a service dog for some of the things you speak of the problem is the lack of trained and certified dogs. All the programs which provide such dogs survive on donations and it takes a long time to train a dog effectively and then not all dogs are capable of being trained.

I get what you are saying including knowing a little about training dogs as I trained upland bird dogs with a professional dog trainer for years.

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3938830)

Yeap, professionally trained service dogs are very hard to get and very expensive. I think his issue is the way the VA classifies them. It strikes a nerve because of their lack of providing care for said dogs when the Veteran is in need.

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3938716)

I pay $125.00 each way for her to fly in the cabin and I have Diamond Medallion status on Delta (an am a 2 million miler). I am not one of those cheaters who claim she is a "support animal". Those people disgust me.

Originally Posted by Fuzzzy (Post 3938974)

That Gracie is a seasoned and welcomed traveler is obvious from your previous pics itt. I apologize if I did not make it obvious that my comment was made totally in jest.

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3950822)

Road trip (Dog is my co-pilot)...