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WarmAndSCSI 10-19-2010 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 772074)
:iagree: I've felt that way about Merc for years. Bimmers, too. Overweight, so how do we sell it as sporty? Put a ridiculously powerful engine in there. Same philosophy as muscle cars had. But still... Muscle cars shouldn't cost 100k and arrive on all-season rubber.
BMW believes in good handling, weight distribution, and douchebaggery though. What does MB tout?

Jeffblue 10-19-2010 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 772079)
lol, the braking package on the $48k SLK300 Roadster:



SOLID rear discs, and single piston floating front calipers? 10.9" rear brakes? A Camry has more braking power than this thing.

I seriously do not get the allure of Mercedes Benz. Their cars are crap for performance unless they wear an AMG badge. No wonder they need so many driver aids.
did you see the top gear where they talk about some special edition mercedes, and how the engine has a plaque that says hand built by so and so. then Clarkson does the math based on how many people they have building engines (which was somehow a known figure) and how many of that car they produce, that 'so and so' was producing some impossibly large amount of engines per year.

shadoquad 10-19-2010 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 772085)
BMW believes in good handling, weight distribution, and douchebaggery though. What does MB tout?
snobbery

WarmAndSCSI 10-19-2010 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 772090)
did you see the top gear where they talk about some special edition mercedes, and how the engine has a plaque that says hand built by so and so. then Clarkson does the math based on how many people they have building engines (which was somehow a known figure) and how many of that car they produce, that 'so and so' was producing some impossibly large amount of engines per year.
Yes lol.

And "hand built" to your average high-end MB owner doesn't mean anything. Said owner has probably never even changed their own oil before, yet alone knows d*ck about building an engine. They probably bolt the valve covers on by hand and call that "hand built." :ugh2:

WarmAndSCSI 10-19-2010 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 772094)
snobbery
And the C-class gives another choice to stereotypical 3-series-driving trophy wives. :tup:

shadoquad 10-19-2010 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 772098)
Yes lol.

And "hand built" to your average high-end MB owner doesn't mean anything. Said owner has probably never even changed their own oil before, yet alone knows d*ck about building an engine. They probably bolt the valve covers on by hand and call that "hand built." :ugh2:
Merc owners don't need to know much about cars. Their husbands are responsible for the vehicles.

m4a1mustang 10-19-2010 11:39 AM
MB has always been a massive power company. Speed. Not necessarily handling but speed. Like I said, autobahn and 1/4 mile whores.

Ever seen a $100+k benz on slicks and skinnies... it's silllly.

Jeffblue 10-19-2010 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 772094)
snobbery
not to turn this into an AT/MT debate, but i think the fact that they do not offer a manual transmission on a single mercedes vehicle shows the kind of market they are catering to. porsche bmw and audi all offer manual gearboxes. mercedes doesn't. I'm not saying that people who get automatics are grandma's by ANY means, if thats what you want, then fine, but you don't see many grandmas driving a stick. and since thats who mercedes is trying to sell to, why offer it?

Jeffblue 10-19-2010 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 772098)
Yes lol.

And "hand built" to your average high-end MB owner doesn't mean anything. Said owner has probably never even changed their own oil before, yet alone knows d*ck about building an engine. They probably bolt the valve covers on by hand and call that "hand built." :ugh2:
do you remember what episode it was? i wan't to find it!

WarmAndSCSI 10-19-2010 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 772104)
MB has always been a massive power company. Speed. Not necessarily handling but speed. Like I said, autobahn and 1/4 mile whores.

Ever seen a $100+k benz on slicks and skinnies... it's silllly.
Yes, but 4900+ lb curb weight is no good for acceleration :(

WarmAndSCSI 10-19-2010 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 772115)
do you remember what episode it was? i wan't to find it!
Was it the one about the CL AMG Black? Clarkson ended up buying one of those.

It may have been an earlier one.

Jeffblue 10-19-2010 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 772116)
Yes, but 4900+ lb curb weight is no good for acceleration :(
its all about power to weight ratio

m4a1mustang 10-19-2010 11:44 AM
Haha well only old people buy CL's so it doesn't matter.

Our CLK500 weighs in right around 3500lbs which isn't bad for your average luxo coupe.

shadoquad 10-19-2010 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 772112)
not to turn this into an AT/MT debate, but i think the fact that they do not offer a manual transmission on a single mercedes vehicle shows the kind of market they are catering to. porsche bmw and audi all offer manual gearboxes. mercedes doesn't. I'm not saying that people who get automatics are grandma's by ANY means, if thats what you want, then fine, but you don't see many grandmas driving a stick. and since thats who mercedes is trying to sell to, why offer it?
Merc offers MT on their vehicles. They are just really rare. There is currently an SLK at my local carmax with one.

http://img-04.carmax.com/Images/2/04...5-c953315e.jpg

m4a1mustang 10-19-2010 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 772120)
Was it the one about the CL AMG Black? Clarkson ended up buying one of those.

It may have been an earlier one.
The CLK63 AMG Black Series is AMAZING.


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