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Volcom370Z 05-27-2010 10:55 PM

Htc evo 4g?!!?
 
Think its an iPhone killer? I can't wait to get one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24r6q4clez8

Anatoray 05-27-2010 11:03 PM

I don't think you'll see an iPhone killer simply because of how the cellphone market is set up in America. The total cost of switching networks, which is exactly what it means to switch from an iPhone to one of these high end Android phones, is simply ridiculous.

You can make a better phone than the iPhone, and many have in fact done that. But now you have to overcome its apps as well, because its users have money invested in those on top of the phone.

Volcom370Z 05-27-2010 11:18 PM

Valid point... but look at all the people dropping their carriers to go to ATT for the iPhone to begin with...

MightyBobo 05-28-2010 09:26 AM

The EVO 4G is nice, but I'll take an HTC Incredible over it any day. Furthermore, theres no way WiMax (Sprints 4G) is going to survive against AT&T's and Verizon's LTE 4G...

My opinion? Android is quickly going to become a formidable force for Apple to contend with.

theDreamer 05-28-2010 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 553951)
The EVO 4G is nice, but I'll take an HTC Incredible over it any day. Furthermore, theres no way WiMax (Sprints 4G) is going to survive against AT&T's and Verizon's LTE 4G...

My opinion? Android is quickly going to become a formidable force for Apple to contend with.

Maybe, Verizon just make a comment yesterday that for LTE data they are not going to have any unlimited plans, only tiered. :shakes head:
I will say though that LTE is going to blow WiMax out of the water, and you can tell Sprint is trying to jump in early to try to pull people in and get them under contract before the others can upgrade their networks.

On the note of an iPhone killer, from Android 2.0 any "decent" phone with Android is better, until Apple decides to release OS 4.0. At that point Android will already be beyond 2.2 (Froyo) and pushing more features than Apple can throw apps at.

Volcom370Z 05-28-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 553954)
Maybe, Verizon just make a comment yesterday that for LTE data they are not going to have any unlimited plans, only tiered. :shakes head:
I will say though that LTE is going to blow WiMax out of the water, and you can tell Sprint is trying to jump in early to try to pull people in and get them under contract before the others can upgrade their networks.

On the note of an iPhone killer, from Android 2.0 any "decent" phone with Android is better, until Apple decides to release OS 4.0. At that point Android will already be beyond 2.2 (Froyo) and pushing more features than Apple can throw apps at.

For some reason I'm optimistic that Sprint will produce a good product this time with WiMax. I like seeing companies that once sucked *** make a 180 and actually thrive. They say that ATT has the worst network out right now, so I think they have quite a way to go and with the info you posted about Verizon, I think Sprint would stand a fighting chance...

theDreamer 05-28-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Volcom370Z (Post 554095)
For some reason I'm optimistic that Sprint will produce a good product this time with WiMax. I like seeing companies that once sucked *** make a 180 and actually thrive. They say that ATT has the worst network out right now, so I think they have quite a way to go and with the info you posted about Verizon, I think Sprint would stand a fighting chance...

I agree to, as it pains me to say it Apple was dead in the water and got a second chance and look at them now (more evil than Microsoft & Google :p).
I am a bit glad to be on Verizon right now, was on AT&T for years, but I will say I never had issues in Houston (or Austin, Dallas, basically anywhere in Texas) on AT&T.

Volcom370Z 05-28-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 554100)
I agree to, as it pains me to say it Apple was dead in the water and got a second chance and look at them now (more evil than Microsoft & Google :p).
I am a bit glad to be on Verizon right now, was on AT&T for years, but I will say I never had issues in Houston (or Austin, Dallas, basically anywhere in Texas) on AT&T.

Its weird though... Look up the locations where WiMax already exists. There are some random *** places in Texas that have it. Maybe there something special about Texas... aside from everything being bigger :tup:

MightyBobo 05-28-2010 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volcom370Z (Post 554095)
For some reason I'm optimistic that Sprint will produce a good product this time with WiMax. I like seeing companies that once sucked *** make a 180 and actually thrive. They say that ATT has the worst network out right now, so I think they have quite a way to go and with the info you posted about Verizon, I think Sprint would stand a fighting chance...

I dont think the up/down speeds of WiMax are nearly as good as LTE's. Furthermore, Verizon and AT&T will be using the same infrastructure practically, and they are BEHEMOTHS compared to Sprint. Even Sprint itself has hinted they may go to LTE...

cmancha003 05-28-2010 11:54 AM

With AT&T's small bandwidth and the increasing amount of things trying to use that bandwidth, any smart phone, iphone and now the ipad, ATT is falling way behind. The iphone contract is coming up soon and there have been a lot of speculation that it will no longer just be on that network but also verizon as well. Verizon has a better overall network while att has a bigger(in size) one and sprint with the fastest, for now. hopefully sprint can become a giant because i hate att customer service, except for uverse....their customer service is the best i have ever had to deal with.

theDreamer 05-28-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cmancha003 (Post 554200)
With AT&T's small bandwidth and the increasing amount of things trying to use that bandwidth, any smart phone, iphone and now the ipad, ATT is falling way behind. The iphone contract is coming up soon and there have been a lot of speculation that it will no longer just be on that network but also verizon as well. Verizon has a better overall network while att has a bigger(in size) one and sprint with the fastest, for now. hopefully sprint can become a giant because i hate att customer service, except for uverse....their customer service is the best i have ever had to deal with.

I need people to understand this, AT&T has a five year contract, we are about to end year 3 so your best hope is 2012 or 2013.
AT&T skipped 3G other than major cities and focused on setting up LTE a long time ago, it will be simple for them to make the change.

cmancha003 05-29-2010 10:05 AM

My bad...just speculation I have heard. :-)

MightyBobo 05-29-2010 10:36 AM

Im happy the iPhone is exclusive to AT&T. The longer it stays there, the longer Android will have to grow a strong support base thanks to it being the "only option" on other carriers.

The sad truth is apparent: people are willing to buy an iPhone merely because of its name, and nothing else. They could know NOTHING about other phones/OS's. I love running into someone running Android now, because almost all of them love their phones and were genuinely surprised how good they were, seeing as it was the "best they had since the iPhone wasn't a choice". Nothing pleases me more than seeing someone converted due to simply opening their eyes a bit.

Volcom370Z 05-29-2010 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 555130)
Im happy the iPhone is exclusive to AT&T. The longer it stays there, the longer Android will have to grow a strong support base thanks to it being the "only option" on other carriers.

The sad truth is apparent: people are willing to buy an iPhone merely because of its name, and nothing else. They could know NOTHING about other phones/OS's. I love running into someone running Android now, because almost all of them love their phones and were genuinely surprised how good they were, seeing as it was the "best they had since the iPhone wasn't a choice". Nothing pleases me more than seeing someone converted due to simply opening their eyes a bit.

I completely agree! The iPhone was cool three years ago when there was nothing to compete with it, but no longer. People are buying into an old technology, and seem happy to pay out the *** and be on a crappy network to do so. Imagine if Sprint or Verizon had the iPhone from the start? I think ATT would die.

All these people are "love" apple products because they are just SO great. and iPad? Really? A big *** iPhone with a bigger processor? for $800? I'm all set. You can buy a laptop for that with Windows 7 on it (which I think is a HUGE steop in the right direction for MS) or even a netbook. I don't know how apple staying in business

MightyBobo 05-29-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Volcom370Z (Post 555170)
I don't know how apple staying in business

Perceived exclusivity.

Apple products are nothing more than a status symbol to many - they barely even know how to use them to their full potential.

Anatoray 05-29-2010 01:11 PM

Go to any apple fan site or forum and you'll find out how. A lot of the people that like their products are completely blind and in serious denial.

MightyBobo 05-29-2010 01:38 PM

I dont need to, sadly. I grew up with a crazy-*** Mac head. Its seriously like a cult.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anatoray (Post 555308)
Go to any apple fan site or forum and you'll find out how. A lot of the people that like their products are completely blind and in serious denial.


dropped1 05-29-2010 09:13 PM

+ 1 for the htc incredible / android os. Ive Had my inc since the release date.

C4talyst 05-30-2010 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 555130)
Im happy the iPhone is exclusive to AT&T. The longer it stays there, the longer Android will have to grow a strong support base thanks to it being the "only option" on other carriers.

The sad truth is apparent: people are willing to buy an iPhone merely because of its name, and nothing else. They could know NOTHING about other phones/OS's. I love running into someone running Android now, because almost all of them love their phones and were genuinely surprised how good they were, seeing as it was the "best they had since the iPhone wasn't a choice". Nothing pleases me more than seeing someone converted due to simply opening their eyes a bit.

Good post. I had been waiting for iphone to come to Verizon for awhile. I've had blackberries and an iphone through work in the past two years. After reading a few reviews on the Droid, I decided to get the new Incredible...I'm hooked. Now that I've had the chance to use all the major smartphone platforms, I'm pretty sure I will be a strict Droid user from here on.

naysayer 06-06-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmancha003 (Post 555107)
My bad...just speculation I have heard. :-)

the single greatest problem with the internet

bigaudiofanat 06-06-2010 08:34 PM

Just bought the Motorla Devour today. The first 2 hours it was a bit overwhelming but now I am enjoying it and slowly finding out all it can do. I was going to get the incredible but they said it would not be in until the 16th. I might take this back if they do get them but other than that I like it so far. Just have to figure out how to put some music in it from a mac with itunes. "Reading instruction on how to do it now"

MightyBobo 06-06-2010 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 565857)
Just bought the Motorla Devour today. The first 2 hours it was a bit overwhelming but now I am enjoying it and slowly finding out all it can do. I was going to get the incredible but they said it would not be in until the 16th. I might take this back if they do get them but other than that I like it so far. Just have to figure out how to put some music in it from a mac with itunes. "Reading instruction on how to do it now"

Oh my god, do not stick with that phone man. Its a joke compared to the Incredible. It was worse than the first Motorola Droid, and THAT is poop compared to the Incredible!

Uggg, its not even running 2.1/2.2, its running old 1.6. RUN FAR AWAY.

Chriz 06-07-2010 03:32 PM

Alright iphone 4 details released...this or iphone?

theDreamer 06-07-2010 03:34 PM

After seeing the new features, iPhone, I would say it comes down to network at this point.

MightyBobo 06-07-2010 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chriz (Post 566912)
Alright iphone 4 details released...this or iphone?

Well, if you have 4G (WiMax) available, I wouldn't even contemplate the iPhone if you're on Sprint already.

The new iPhone is just a shinier toy as per usual. If you're already on Verizon or Sprint, I dont think its worth THAT much to change networks - not unless it magically has 4G under the hood, which it does not.

Chriz 06-08-2010 06:12 PM

I have the iphone 3g right now, contracts about to end, should I switch to sprint and get the evo? Im really getting sick of all this att bs

Volcom370Z 06-08-2010 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chriz (Post 568521)
I have the iphone 3g right now, contracts about to end, should I switch to sprint and get the evo? Im really getting sick of all this att bs

HELL YES! You could stay with ATT if you want to start paying out the a** for data. They just announced that they aren't going to have unlimited plans any longer... I'd ditch ATT in a heartbeat.

MightyBobo 06-08-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Volcom370Z (Post 568544)
HELL YES! You could stay with ATT if you want to start paying out the a** for data. They just announced that they aren't going to have unlimited plans any longer... I'd ditch ATT in a heartbeat.

Lol, calm down...unless he's using over 2 GIG's (!) of data a month, or doing ANY tethering...the new plans arent that bad.

Volcom370Z 06-08-2010 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 569054)
Lol, calm down...unless he's using over 2 GIG's (!) of data a month, or doing ANY tethering...the new plans arent that bad.

Sorry... just a little a little heated. I don't get how AT&T can take people for their money like that, yet people just keep going to them. They offer a newer faster phone, likely to be used for even more video and data, yet you are not longer going to offer an unlimited option, just boggles the mind :confused:

MightyBobo 06-08-2010 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volcom370Z (Post 569066)
Sorry... just a little carried away my mindless Apple fanatics... :ugh2:

Who's the Apple fanatic? lol

Volcom370Z 06-08-2010 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 569074)
Who's the Apple fanatic? lol

edited that post...

I meant people in general who still think that is the way to go without considering other alternatives... as mentioned before, its a status symbol of sorts...

Brazilbro 06-09-2010 12:09 AM

Got my EVO, and it ROCKS!!!!

Volcom370Z 06-09-2010 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 569106)
Got my EVO, and it ROCKS!!!!

I tried to get Sprint to let me upgrade early, but no luck. I have to wait until August... Im already learning how to root it lol

MightyBobo 06-09-2010 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Volcom370Z (Post 569110)
I tried to get Sprint to let me upgrade early, but no luck. I have to wait until August... Im already learning how to root it lol

I wouldnt sweat it, there may be better offered by then anyway...but I doubt it lol.

naysayer 06-09-2010 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volcom370Z (Post 568544)
HELL YES! You could stay with ATT if you want to start paying out the a** for data. They just announced that they aren't going to have unlimited plans any longer... I'd ditch ATT in a heartbeat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 569054)
Lol, calm down...unless he's using over 2 GIG's (!) of data a month, or doing ANY tethering...the new plans arent that bad.

wrong and wrong.

unless you change the plan to the new one, you are grandfathered into the unlimited $30 plan

MightyBobo 06-09-2010 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by naysayer (Post 569184)
wrong and wrong.

unless you change the plan to the new one, you are grandfathered into the unlimited $30 plan

I'm sorry, but how am I wrong? If you go with the new plans (did I mention ANYTHING about the grandfathering?), then you do indeed fall into either the 200M (what, $15 a month?), 2G ($25 a month - $5 CHEAPER than the unlimited data plan that a whole TWO PERCENT of people on AT&T would actually need), or 2G + Tethering ($45).

So, where am I wrong?

Lug 06-09-2010 11:41 AM

At this point Screen size is EVERYTHING....EVO

xiven 06-09-2010 11:59 AM

I just checked my usage since I bought the phone over a year ago and it says I've only used 1.7 gig. That's not per month which is what AT&T is going to charge IF you change your plan or sign up for new service. I went online and checked my month usage and it was not even 300mb/month. I don't have any reason to change my plan as it works very well for me so I'll be able to keep my unlimited plan.

I would say go w/ the carrier that works good in your area. AT&T works great here in Atlanta. Depending on who I'm talking to it may drop calls but that is due to the person on the other end that their phone does not have good reception. I've been on my phone for hours without dropping a call so I can definitely say they have been improving their service. TMobile, Sprint are not good in this area. Verizon works great, but they didn't have a phone that was acceptable to what I wanted in a phone at the time so I ended up switching to AT&T so I could get the iPhone. If AT&T doesn't work great in your area and you're not in a 3G area, don't go w/ them just because they have the iPhone. You'll just be miserable w/ the reception.

Volcom370Z 06-09-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiven (Post 569596)
I just checked my usage since I bought the phone over a year ago and it says I've only used 1.7 gig. That's not per month which is what AT&T is going to charge IF you change your plan or sign up for new service. I went online and checked my month usage and it was not even 300mb/month. I don't have any reason to change my plan as it works very well for me so I'll be able to keep my unlimited plan.

I'd rather spend the extra $5 and know I wasn't going to get boned by AT&T. Piece of mind type thing...


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