I don't know where did you read that a heartbeat means it's not a fetus anymore. It is very much still a fetus.

Late term abortion is not murder, because spontaneous abortions never result in a funeral because.....the child was never there in the first place.
You can disagree all you want, the world has 195+ countries, and USA is just one of them. And if USA has its own definition of the abortion, it doesn't mean that 194+ other countries have this. Same goes for your constitution. I agree and am happy for whatever your people have chosen, and I'm also happy that each country has their own constitutions.

I'm not going to dive too deep here, but a brief history lesson.

Roe v Wade was an unconstitutional law. Our Supreme court just ruled it so and returned the powers back to the States (50 of them). The federal government never should have overstepped the States own Constitution. It was overreach.

If you don't like your States laws, you can:
1. Vote for people who will change those laws. It's why we have State elections.
2. Move to a State that aligns with your preferred choice of birth control.
3. Have your abortion in another State that will gladly do it.

All the Court did was give those choices back to individuals of the STATES. It's really not a big deal, but don't tell certain people that. Contrary to what these people tell you, it's not illegal to have an abortion in the US. They're letting the majority decide on the issue instead of 9 partisan judges.

And thats what makes this Country the best in the world. For now, anyway.

It doesn't concern me what people do in other parts of the world. I don't live there so I have no say. Oh, and I don't believe taxpayers should be paying for birth control and I also think convicted sex offenders should be chemically castrated. Or executed. I'm good either way.

Well stated.
Federal government needs to :gtfo2:

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I'm not even arguing with you. I only said a few pages ago that I agree and disagree with you and explained why. Also, not a bad idea to look at the rest of the world once in a while, you could learn a thing or two, regardless if you're living in the best country in the world or not.

Looks like this happened in Tampa from a LEO convention? Riverview to be exact, but is still considered Tampa.

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All about optics, and not just within the LEO sector, but everywhere.

There's many opinions on this.

Just because there is no funeral doesn't mean it's not murder. You don't need one and the other to equate to anything.

People/states/countries may have different laws, but universally, I think we can all agree that once a fetus has a heartbeat, this is the inception of life. Though this fetus does not have the ability to think/make decisions for itself, it is very much so a living being, and to end its life by another could/should be seen as murder.

And the argument for pro-abortion from rape/incest/etc. is a very very small percentage compared to other reasons for abortion:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/1211175001/

"Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/homes...ges/index.html

"Shopping for a home? There’s a lot working against you right now."

ABSOLUTELY WRONG! The ONLY factor working against potential home buyers is the lack of inventory. If a lender is able to offer a 0% rate, but no home to close this on, the rate doesn't benefit anyone.

The media keeps talking about rates and rising rates. If a buyer is relying on low rates to qualify for a home, then they are not truly qualified buyers. Rates are currently in the 7% range, which is still really low compared to previous decades when rates were upwards of near 20%. Households have grown since previous decades, incomes have significantly grown since previous decades, and though there is inflation to factor in, buying a home has become more affordable compared to previous decades.

"'If something comes up you have only a day or two before it’s gone. I’m showing up the day it goes on the market, making fully underwritten offers, sometimes 20% over [the asking price], and not getting the house.'"

WRONG AGAIN! Home inventory is very limited, however, homes that are listed for sale are sitting on the market longer compared to 2 years ago. Also, buyers are NOT (or should not be anyway) offering over asking price in this current market, and sellers are now more likely to help buyers with credits/concessions as an incentive and move forward with the purchase of their homes.

Dumb@$$ media :gtfo2::gtfo2::gtfo2::gtfo2:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/busin...ion/index.html

"Billionaire Leon Black made a $158 million payment to Jeffrey Epstein. Senators want to know why."

WTF. I'd like to know why also :gtfo2::gtfo2::gtfo2::gtfo2:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/polit...ing/index.html

"Federal judge blocks Biden’s controversial asylum policy in a major blow to administration."

Yea, it’s too bad Epstein killed himself before we could get answers… :rolleyes:

Glad someone else is taking the baton. I’m not interested in getting into another p1ssing match over a subject I really don’t care about.

I wasn’t arguing, I was pointing out facts you probably wouldn’t know since MOST people in this country refuse to understand what happened.

As far as greatest country? Undefeated in two world wars, sweetie. You’d be speaking German if it wasn’t for us. :tiphat: