The coming fallout of trade.

Hearing coronavirus is hitting N Korea hard right now. I can only imagine the horror-like nightmares NK government officials are carrying out against citizens right now.

3M had a bad year but Im surprised their stocks are still down...

They can't get the material to make the masks, because the material comes from China. Like a lot of other things. If this goes around much longer. A lot of factories around the world will be shutting down for the lack of material.

It will march right through that country. They will suffer the most because they are already in bad health to begin with.

This virus has been around for a while, but This new strain has taken hold worse than SARS. It can sit on hard surfaces for 9 days. HfS bad if you think of an airplane or boat. How can you disinfect a stair rail or armrest everytime. Anyway, here is a link to John Hopkins site tracking this. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

It also an incubation period up to 24 days too. :icon14:

I used to work at the container terminals. When the longshore union went on strike or when it was time for contract negotiations, it was creepy seeing all the ships anchored outside the harbor, looked like and invasion fleet. Ill have to go see how or if its empty now.

That sucks. Fcuk racism!

I am a full-blooded American via Puerto Rico (3rd generation too) that has a slightly darker complexion, and used to get called Indian or Hindu while growing up. Once 9/11 happened, it all turned into straight Arab 'jokes' and insults like Camel Jockey and Sand N*****.

Just a grandparent ago (75 yrs), the President of the US decided to round up all Japanese-Americans (mostly 2nd and 3rd generation) because a country across the globe declared war.

The capacity of humans to be so compassionate, yet also have to ability to be so incredibly cruel is truly a baffling thing.

My wife is 50% Hispanic, 25% Native American Indian, the rest is a mix of euro, mostly Irish. Everyone here thinks she's an Italian. :icon14: :rofl2:

Rusty,Got yourself a rare ginger huh? i did too. Not sure of the percentage though.

vtec to vvel: People organize and place things in groups or associations for preservation. Has been going on for eternity. Not making excuses for this, as we should be smarter than our ancestors. I'll buy you the hat" I'm not chinese okay dumbass".
if you record on FBL. I want to wear a red hat in LA that says " It's just a red hat dumbass." The reactions will be gold.

Today's update. Be a while before a vaccine is made.

China is going through great efforts to disinfect entire cities, I don't think it's as contained as they say it is.

As others said, incubation period, surface life, etc. Can you imagine all the planes that are carrying the infection around? Hope this is settled with soon.

China, 780 million in quarantine. They basically gave up on reporting the numbers. Iran, 50 dead. This is starting to spread fast outside of China. :eek: No vaccines. More reports that this came out of a lab.

World stock markets are selling off like I thought they would. Nothing is being shipped. The ships are sitting in ports and outside of them. There is no one to load and off load them. Food is spoiling on the docks and on the ships.

When the virus takes hold in this country. It will rip through the homeless fast. You will see the dead in the streets. California will get hit hard.

I ordered some long term emergency food from My Patriot Supply on the 14th. I got an e-mail from them.

"We want to thank you again for your recent order and give you an update on its status. We understand good communication is important to you.

My Patriot Supply continues to experience 10x normal demand for our preparedness products. This continues to cause a shipping delay for approximately 70% of orders.

For most orders being delayed, including yours, they’re taking about 7-10 days to ship. Our teams across our multiple warehouses are working around the clock to produce, pack, and ship our shelf-stable food products as quickly as possible.

In a small handful of cases, orders may take up to 14 days before shipping. We apologize for this delay and thank you for your patience as we navigate these unprecedented times.

As you probably have heard by now, My Patriot Supply is known for being the industry leader in delivery speed, and we still are. We promise we’re working hard to get back to normal 2-day delivery as quickly as possible."

I've talked to others. And other suppliers are totally sold out