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madwi 05-23-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3758598)
Sure, I'll just send over a list of specifications for you to memorize. How are you with programming CMM's and FARO Arms? Decent at CAD modeling? Able to measure accurately to 4 decimal places using a micrometer? Good at calculating the coefficient of thermal expansion for steel, aluminum, and high-nickel iron alloys?

We're always in need of good QC personnel with those skills. :icon17:

I like to play with laser micrometers. :rock:

Leingod 05-23-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3758598)
Sure, I'll just send over a list of specifications for you to memorize. How are you with programming CMM's and FARO Arms? Decent at CAD modeling? Able to measure accurately to 4 decimal places using a micrometer? Good at calculating the coefficient of thermal expansion for steel, aluminum, and high-nickel iron alloys?

We're always in need of good QC personnel with those skills. :icon17:

I can do CAD models. years of light show coordination for concerts taught me that. All the other things are acronyms for things that can be learned over time.

If I can take my CCNA exam to proceed to work on level 4 OSI layers within security protocols ranging from SSL to PCT. Shouldn't be to difficult. I can even measure fiber gage strands that are as thin as hairs.

JLarson 05-23-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3758601)
I like to play with laser micrometers. :rock:

Never seen one of those before, but just looked them up! Neat! I want a scanner for my FARO arm. Too bad it's around 20k...

Leingod 05-23-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3758605)
Never seen one of those before, but just looked them up! Neat! I want a scanner for my FARO arm. Too bad it's around 20k...

Like Madwi says. It's only money. Can always make more.

madwi 05-23-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3758605)
Never seen one of those before, but just looked them up! Neat! I want a scanner for my FARO arm. Too bad it's around 20k...

We used one for measuring a critical 100% check dimension on the pintles for the F-16 afterburner fuel rails.

JLarson 05-23-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3758603)
I can do CAD models. years of light show coordination for concerts taught me that. All the other things are acronyms for things that can be learned over time.

If I can take my CCNA exam to proceed to work on level 4 OSI layers within security protocols ranging from SSL to PCT. Shouldn't be to difficult. I can even measure fiber gage strands that are as thin as hairs.

I don't doubt you have the capability. Thin as hairs though.... .002 is about the thickness of a human hair. Things get dicey when you start measuring in the .0001 range in a non-climate controlled environment. Dust, slight temperature variations - these are my nightmares.

madwi 05-23-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3758609)
I don't doubt you have the capability. Thin as hairs though.... .002 is about the thickness of a human hair. Things get dicey when you start measuring in the .0001 range in a non-climate controlled environment. Dust, slight temperature variations - these are my nightmares.

The gorilla aka the machinist whose hands are squeezing the life out of the end of the mic trying to argue it is in tolerance... :rofl2:

madwi 05-23-2018 11:20 AM

No! Calipers are not the appropriate tool for a +/-.001 tolerance! :mad: :gtfo2:

JLarson 05-23-2018 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3758608)
We used one for measuring a critical 100% check dimension on the pintles for the F-16 afterburner fuel rails.

Unfortunately the FARO arm isn't that precise. I wouldn't trust it for anything less than .001.

Most interesting piece I ever worked on was a titanium transmission frame beam for the S92 helicopter. It has center holes for bushings, vertical and horizontal, with a positioning requirement of .005 relative to 3 datum surfaces (1 of which was technically inside the center of the part... frigging engineers) and I had a 25 year old CMM to do it with.

madwi 05-23-2018 11:20 AM

Ahhh the good 'ol days.

Leingod 05-23-2018 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3758609)
I don't doubt you have the capability. Thin as hairs though.... .002 is about the thickness of a human hair. Things get dicey when you start measuring in the .0001 range in a non-climate controlled environment. Dust, slight temperature variations - these are my nightmares.

Nothing a 45x electron microscope primarily used for soldering connections on motheboards couldn't fix. It's the only way I could solder with pin point accuracy when replacing micro controllers on laptops covered in oil. But it was used to make sure nothing was on fiber pairs as well before connecting them.

Leingod 05-23-2018 11:21 AM

Now I wanna go splice a pair of fiber together to see if i've still got it....

JLarson 05-23-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3758613)
No! Calipers are not the appropriate tool for a +/-.001 tolerance! :mad: :gtfo2:

Ha! Tell me about it! The owner was just as bad! Once, he pulled out his machinists tools from the 60s... his old calipers looked like something a phrenologist would have used to measure bumps on your head! Accurate within ± .05...

madwi 05-23-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3758615)
Unfortunately the FARO arm isn't that precise. I wouldn't trust it for anything less than .001.

Most interesting piece I ever worked on was a titanium transmission frame beam for the S92 helicopter. It has center holes for bushings, vertical and horizontal, with a positioning requirement of .005 relative to 3 datum surfaces (1 of which was technically inside the center of the part... frigging engineers) and I had a 25 year old CMM to do it with.

Hey intern! Come over here and get thing set up by noon, I have a meeting. :rofl2:

JLarson 05-23-2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3758620)
Hey intern! Come over here and get thing set up by noon, I have a meeting. :rofl2:

Everything I ever experienced with ridiculously dimensioned drawings made sense once I met Tyler. Tyler is the engineer at my current facility. He's new, fresh out of college, and I can best explain him by saying he once dimensioned a pair of nested cylinders so that both had the some outside diameter.... and expected one to fit inside the other.

madwi 05-23-2018 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3758615)
Unfortunately the FARO arm isn't that precise. I wouldn't trust it for anything less than .001.

Most interesting piece I ever worked on was a titanium transmission frame beam for the S92 helicopter. It has center holes for bushings, vertical and horizontal, with a positioning requirement of .005 relative to 3 datum surfaces (1 of which was technically inside the center of the part... frigging engineers) and I had a 25 year old CMM to do it with.

I honestly dont know what some of the parts I made went to. I know back in '97 we were making parts for the stealth helicopter that crashed during the bin laden raid. One year I gave my mom a pen holder for her office and it was the inconell armor housing for the aviation black boxes CPU.

JLarson 05-23-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3758622)
I honestly dont know what some of the parts I made went to. I know back in '97 we were making parts for the stealth helicopter that crashed during the bin laden raid. One year I gave my mom a pen holder for her office and it was the inconell armor housing for the aviation black boxes CPU.

We did work for a number of ALRE systems (aircraft launch and recovery), lot of critical safety and critical application items. Most humorous was a steam catapult hook (for the deck of an aircraft carrier) which seriously was drawn to look like a giant d1ck. Some engineer somewhere had a good laugh over that.

"Hey Fred, I've got $20 that says I can put my **** on a drawing, have it mass produced, and use it to catch aircraft!"
"You're on!"

madwi 05-23-2018 11:36 AM

Thats funny!

StevenSlice 05-23-2018 11:39 AM

Lol ill just stick to SQA because i have no idea what you guys are talking about

madwi 05-23-2018 11:40 AM

Our shop was in a rough neighborhood and shootings happened fairly often in the area. We had made a new prototype gun that was going to be used for trajectory computations that the big guns on the ships would be calibrated to. It used these big tracer rounds and we worked night shift... naturally we decided it was a great idea to test it out. :icon17:
There were cops flooding the area in mere minutes and everyone was just chilling by their machines like nothing happened while the foreman talked to them. He just walked by everyone and said dont even think of stepping a toe outside until your shift is over. :icon17:

JLarson 05-23-2018 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3758630)
Our shop was in a rough neighborhood and shootings happened fairly often in the area. We had made a new prototype gun that was going to be used for trajectory computations that the big guns on the ships would be calibrated to. It used these big tracer rounds and we worked night shift... naturally we decided it was a great idea to test it out. :icon17:
There were cops flooding the area in mere minutes and everyone was just chilling by their machines like nothing happened while the foreman talked to them. He just walked by everyone and said dont even think of stepping a toe outside until your shift is over. :icon17:

That's hilarious! I knew a guy who worked at the Boeing plant on 291 outside Philly. He and a few of the other machinists fabricated a cannon, and fired stuff from one hangar to the other. Now, there are no machinists at Boeing :(

Leingod 05-23-2018 12:28 PM

buffalo chicken wrap and pita chips for lunch.

StevenSlice 05-23-2018 01:05 PM

Getting sick. Got a massive headache and my throat is killing me.

Just want to go home lol

onzedge 05-23-2018 02:03 PM

Be careful with those Mustangs, boys...

Bad language so be careful...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U9UCS5WPzc

BoneZ 05-23-2018 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3758394)
Yea. You'll be fine. My Swifts lowered the car drastically compared to Madwis and I've had 2 alignments since last year. Both done on hunter models without issues. If you're doing springs, just doe the toe bolts and Camber arms as well. Don't half are it like me.

Definitely do it right for sure. This is a dd. So... just the bolts and arms are all I need?

eastwest2300 05-23-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ (Post 3758553)
Sup eDubZ

:hello::hello::hello:

Leingod 05-23-2018 02:56 PM

Apparently both cars passed inspection. Shop never called me. I had to call them. What is it with my luck lately..... sheesh

BoneZ 05-23-2018 02:59 PM

So if I put all these Springs and crap on here, do these cars have any idiosyncrasies that I need to know about or is it a pretty straightforward install?

madwi 05-23-2018 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ (Post 3758682)
So if I put all these Springs and crap on here, do these cars have any idiosyncrasies that I need to know about or is it a pretty straightforward install?

Very easy to do and the setup is dead simple to work on.

BoneZ 05-23-2018 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3758685)
Very easy to do and the setup is dead simple to work on.

Cool. When I did the Camaro, there was this one bolt that was a pita for nearly everyone.

JARblue 05-23-2018 03:40 PM

So the Accord loaner I got basically crapped out in San Marcos this morning :ugh:

850 miles on the odometer and every single warning lamp came on. Throttle cut to what felt like 10% meant it wasn't safe to even merge onto the highway. Dealer wouldn't return my phone calls when I tried to reach them, so I drove back to Austin on the frontage road wherever I could and put my flashers on the few times I had to enter the highway.

BoneZ 05-23-2018 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3758685)
Very easy to do and the setup is dead simple to work on.

Dizzamn... I just started looking up parts. Just how much does it cost to lower this thing an inch?

Leingod 05-23-2018 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ (Post 3758695)
Dizzamn... I just started looking up parts. Just how much does it cost to lower this thing an inch?

Rough costs.300 for springs, 150 for arms, 30 for bolts.

Rusty 05-23-2018 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3758634)
That's hilarious! I knew a guy who worked at the Boeing plant on 291 outside Philly. He and a few of the other machinists fabricated a cannon, and fired stuff from one hangar to the other. Now, there are no machinists at Boeing :(

The shop I worked at was next to a river. If we worked the weekend. Which was most of the time. We all had made potato guns. And we used oxy and acetylene to power it. At lunch time. We would sit in the parking lot and fire big potatoes at the boats on the river.

BoneZ 05-23-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3758705)
Rough costs.300 for springs, 150 for arms, 30 for bolts.

Oh... that's not bad. I must have been looking at the wrong stuff. What should I get?

BoneZ 05-23-2018 05:27 PM

Mmmmm... Dr. Tarty Sour Wheat.

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eastwest2300 05-23-2018 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3758689)
So the Accord loaner I got basically crapped out in San Marcos this morning :ugh:

850 miles on the odometer and every single warning lamp came on. Throttle cut to what felt like 10% meant it wasn't safe to even merge onto the highway. Dealer wouldn't return my phone calls when I tried to reach them, so I drove back to Austin on the frontage road wherever I could and put my flashers on the few times I had to enter the highway.

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

eastwest2300 05-23-2018 05:50 PM

duuuuudeZ.

BoneZ 05-23-2018 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3758713)
duuuuudeZ.

Yes?

BoneZ 05-23-2018 05:54 PM

I might as well do shocks while I'm in there.


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