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StevenSlice 08-01-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3775392)
:iagree:

Having an intelligent conversation with the younger generation is next to impossible.

I have to agree with this even though i technically am the "Younger Generation":wtf2:

FPenvy 08-01-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by StevenSlice (Post 3775281)
Gimme those suggestions then. Oh and these tires are for pure track usage. Must be above 200TW, and cannot exceed 285 in width.

you running square 285s? or still staggered?

also if its track use why care about being over 200TW? if it's track only i would say go Michelin Cup 2's they're close at 180TW.

if you need to be over 200TW for some class specs then just go get the Michelin 4s or Bridgestone RE-71R

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775522)
you running square 285s? or still staggered?

also if its track use why care about being over 200TW? if it's track only i would say go Michelin Cup 2's they're close at 180TW.

if you need to be over 200TW for some class specs then just go get the Michelin 4s or Bridgestone RE-71R

Square 285s, have a second set of wheels for track now.

Class Restriction between both GTA and Corner 3 Nissan challenge it has to be 200TW or Higher. Nissan Challenge doesnt allow RE71R, plus thats a lot of money for tires that dont last that long.

FPenvy 08-01-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by StevenSlice (Post 3775526)
Square 285s, have a second set of wheels for track now.

Class Restriction between both GTA and Corner 3 Nissan challenge it has to be 200TW or Higher. Nissan Challenge doesnt allow RE71R, plus thats a lot of money for tires that dont last that long.

i mean it's racing kinda have to pay to play i feel. kinda weird they wont allow a tire that falls under their rules though.

but, if you're buying rubber on a tight budget then idk what to tell you. all i know is i would never run any of the 3 you listed on the street let alone the track.

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775529)
i mean it's racing kinda have to pay to play i feel. kinda weird they wont allow a tire that falls under their rules though.

but, if you're buying rubber on a tight budget then idk what to tell you. all i know is i would never run any of the 3 you listed on the street let alone the track.

Its not so much on a budget, there are people i know who can get maybe 3-4 track days out of RE-71Rs solely on track driving.

Federal RS-RRs are super common in GTA for the class division and they are quite fast. AD08Rs wear better than them but are just expensive. SUR4Gs are what Eagle and a few others are running and they really like them.

Plus rules are rules so i gotta abide by them, and too be fair RE71s are way faster than most other 200TW tires out there.

http://www.corner3motorsports.com/wp...s_Rev.-1.2.pdf
http://globaltimeattack.com/2018-rules/

FPenvy 08-01-2018 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by StevenSlice (Post 3775530)
Its not so much on a budget, there are people i know who can get maybe 3-4 track days out of RE-71Rs solely on track driving.

Federal RS-RRs are super common in GTA for the class division and they are quite fast. AD08Rs wear better than them but are just expensive. SUR4Gs are what Eagle and a few others are running and they really like them.

Plus rules are rules so i gotta abide by them, and too be fair RE71s are way faster than most other 200TW tires out there.

http://www.corner3motorsports.com/wp...s_Rev.-1.2.pdf
| 2018 Rules


i just have never heard many positive reviews of the 3 others nor much of anyone ever running federal. so my opinion is bias the other way.

i was just with my buddy last weekend and he's in love the RE-71s on his M3 that sucks you cant use them.

i'm currently trying to pick the next tires for the GTR and making 0 progress lol

bunk 08-01-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775531)

i'm currently trying to pick the next tires for the GTR and making 0 progress lol

Im trying to figure out what size wheels/tires I need without spacers. Havent even got to the point of what wheel style. My head hurts!

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3775537)
Im trying to figure out what size wheels/tires I need without spacers. Havent even got to the point of what wheel style. My head hurts!

Pure street car or do you have any intention to track it?

bunk 08-01-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by StevenSlice (Post 3775538)
Pure street car or do you have any intention to track it?

Just street use.

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3775540)
Just street use.

I personally love the specs of my VMRs for the street, along with the look.

They fit wide enough tires to be dangerous.

19x9.5 +25, 19x10.5 +22. I can drop some pictures for reference for how they sit in the wheel well if you want. 19s just look damn good on the Z, but obviously 18s are cheaper, and if you go square you can rotate your tires.

FPenvy 08-01-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3775540)
Just street use.

i just bumped tire sizes on my OEM sport Rays.

running 265/305 combo for like 5 years now

onzedge 08-01-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775542)
i just bumped tire sizes on my OEM sport Rays.

running 265/305 combo for like 5 years now

You are a true iconoclast.

:owned:

FPenvy 08-01-2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3775545)
You are a true iconoclast.

:owned:

:confused:

not sure why? is the common belief is to run undersized stock tires on stock wheels?

bunk 08-01-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775542)
i just bumped tire sizes on my OEM sport Rays.

running 265/305 combo for like 5 years now


I have the base wheels in 18x9 and 18x8. I really like the wheels, but theyre too skinny. I was thinking of moving up to 19s

bunk 08-01-2018 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3775545)
You are a true iconoclast.

:owned:

Denouncer

FPenvy 08-01-2018 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3775551)
I have the base wheels in 18x9 and 18x8. I really like the wheels, but theyre too skinny. I was thinking of moving up to 19s

yea the base wheels dont give much of an option to go wider. 19's will def help out with gaining some grip.

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 12:20 PM

The 265 on the 9" isnt that horrible, afterall i run a 275 on a 9"5. But there is a reason i bumped up to a 10.5 front for 275s or 285s.

But the 305 on 10" is just too wide. I can only imagine the sidewall deflection mid corner.

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775553)
yea the base wheels dont give much of an option to go wider. 19's will def help out with gaining some grip.

Wut. Since when did going a bigger diameter wheel help with more grip......

bunk 08-01-2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenSlice (Post 3775541)
I personally love the specs of my VMRs for the street, along with the look.

They fit wide enough tires to be dangerous.

19x9.5 +25, 19x10.5 +22. I can drop some pictures for reference for how they sit in the wheel well if you want. 19s just look damn good on the Z, but obviously 18s are cheaper, and if you go square you can rotate your tires.

Going with a square setup would definately be the way to go with as much driving as I do. Another decision to make..lol

FPenvy 08-01-2018 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenSlice (Post 3775556)
Wut. Since when did going a bigger diameter wheel help with more grip......

if he was going with stock 19s therefore wide wheel wider tire for some help is that was his plan.

relax. dont put words in my mo......posts. lol

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3775557)
Going with a square setup would definately be the way to go with as much driving as I do. Another decision to make..lol

I like the stagger setup for DD purposes because it adds some natural understeer to the car. Makes it a bit more docile when youre just doing a high speed cruise through corners instead of actually having to be on the dime with your inputs.

FPenvy 08-01-2018 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenSlice (Post 3775555)
The 265 on the 9" isnt that horrible, afterall i run a 275 on a 9"5. But there is a reason i bumped up to a 10.5 front for 275s or 285s.

But the 305 on 10" is just too wide. I can only imagine the sidewall deflection mid corner.

the 305 on my 10" is wayyyyyyy more stable/more grip than the 275 ever was. it is not too wide.

bunk 08-01-2018 12:24 PM

Lets stop putting stuff in peoples mouths! lol

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fpenvy (Post 3775553)
yea the base wheels dont give much of an option to go wider. 19's will def help out with gaining some grip.

how is that putting words in your mouth. (:

FPenvy 08-01-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3775561)
Lets stop putting stuff in peoples mouths! lol

:happydance:

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Originally Posted by StevenSlice (Post 3775562)
how is that putting words in your mouth. (:

context fucker lol

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775563)

context fucker lol

Before you get hostile.

Nowhere in that post does it mention Sport 19s. It just says 19s. Wheres the "Context" when you dont even clarify what youre talking about.

bunk 08-01-2018 12:35 PM

Maybe Ill just spacers for now..lol

FPenvy 08-01-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenSlice (Post 3775564)
Before you get hostile.

Nowhere in that post does it mention Sport 19s. It just says 19s. Wheres the "Context" when you dont even clarify what youre talking about.

hostile? my young Z son i am not hostile. you would know if i was lol :tiphat: you were not here for my hostile years :roflpuke2:

but, we were speaking about his base 18s after i was speaking about stock 19's and tires sizing. therefore the conversation between him and i went to him saying he was thinking about moving to 19s. i then assumed he meant stock rays 19s so the conversation then continued that direction.

now, as for your comment. yes, diameter doesn't equal grip. i grew up at a drag strip and other tracks i'm aware of all this lol

onzedge 08-01-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775550)
:confused:

not sure why? is the common belief is to run undersized stock tires on stock wheels?

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3775552)
Denouncer

One of the characteristics an iconoclast has is not following rules or norms. I meant the comment as a compliment or sorts.

For me, I run 245/45/19 in the front and 275/35/19 in the rear (factory sizes). Currently I run Pilot Super Sport and tomorrow I am ordering the Pilot Sport 4S.

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775568)
hostile? my young Z son i am not hostile. you would know if i was lol :tiphat: you were not here for my hostile years :roflpuke2:

but, we were speaking about his base 18s after i was speaking about stock 19's and tires sizing. therefore the conversation between him and i went to him saying he was thinking about moving to 19s. i then assumed he meant stock rays 19s so the conversation then continued that direction.

now, as for your comment. yes, diameter doesn't equal grip. i grew up at a drag strip and other tracks i'm aware of all this lol

Context f'er if the way it was said could be taken the wrong way. And since i was low on coffee, it was :rofl2:

Honestly for the price people sell OEM sport wheels id get something different. Wider 18s if looking to save money in the long wrong, or some custom offset / sized 19s for looks/use.

19x10.5 squared is what id reccomend personally if you want all around goodness. 275 or 285 squared with a 35 sidewall for a combo of response + ride quality.

StevenSlice 08-01-2018 01:32 PM

As for tires, i hate to say it id Take S0-4s over Michelins for the price point, grip, and ride quality as a whole. The michelins are quieter, but i don't like how unresponsive they get once you push them on a back road.

Indy 500s i hear are a good tire, no experience yet. Im contemplating them for my DD tire just so they will last.

And then if you just want mad grip and have the money to be a baller, RE-71Rs or Advan Sport V105s

FPenvy 08-01-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3775576)
One of the characteristics an iconoclast has is not following rules or norms. I meant the comment as a compliment or sorts.

For me, I run 245/45/19 in the front and 275/35/19 in the rear (factory sizes). Currently I run Pilot Super Sport and tomorrow I am ordering the Pilot Sport 4S.

my first upgrade was to MPSS in stock sizes. i then proceeded to roll a shoulder on the dragon and went with RE-11's the following year in bigger sizes. didnt look back since that. they just worked on the car and for my driving.

now, this whole picking out tires for the GTR is absolutely foreign. been on the forums/tire rack for weeks now going back and forth.

bunk 08-01-2018 01:48 PM

Yeah, I think a whole new setup. I plan on upgrading my brakes with Akebonos in the near future, and I dont think the base 18's will allow that.

Hotrodz 08-01-2018 02:02 PM

If I was running in your class I would go with A052 in 295 35. They are expensive but the tire size is spot on and the grip is supposed to be as good as re71s. They also are supposed to wear a lot better.

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Hotrodz 08-01-2018 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775581)
my first upgrade was to MPSS in stock sizes. i then proceeded to roll a shoulder on the dragon and went with RE-11's the following year in bigger sizes. didnt look back since that. they just worked on the car and for my driving.

now, this whole picking out tires for the GTR is absolutely foreign. been on the forums/tire rack for weeks now going back and forth.

The tire of choice talking to some my gtr acquaintances are toyo r888r if no going with Mitch cup tires!

I can tell you my r888 on the dragon were awesome, way better than the re-11s.

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FPenvy 08-01-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3775586)
The tire of choice talking to some my gtr acquaintances are toyo r888r if no going with Mitch cup tires!

I can tell you my r888 on the dragon were awesome, way better than the re-11s.

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the R888's are no more and i do like the R888R replacements.

i have been eyeing up the michelin cup 2 tires.

im just debating on which will last slightly longer. i have been driving the Z to work everyday and the GTR has been primarily weekend toy.

my choices right now are:

Cup 2: 285/325
MPSS: 285/335
R888R: 285/325

current tires should last the rest of summer though so i have time lol

Hotrodz 08-01-2018 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3775588)
the R888's are no more and i do like the R888R replacements.

i have been eyeing up the michelin cup 2 tires.

im just debating on which will last slightly longer. i have been driving the Z to work everyday and the GTR has been primarily weekend toy.

my choices right now are:

Cup 2: 285/325
MPSS: 285/335
R888R: 285/325

current tires should last the rest of summer though so i have time lol

I talk to Sharif at ZDAYZ and he said he prefers r888r, stocks and sells them and tracks them.

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Ghostvette 08-01-2018 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3775582)
Yeah, I think a whole new setup. I plan on upgrading my brakes with Akebonos in the near future, and I dont think the base 18's will allow that.

The Akebonos will fit with 18s, the Z comes stock with 18's & Akebonos in Australia... according to the marketing stuff I saw. I have the Cardone part numbers for rebuilt Akebonos if you are interested. You will need to either trim the backing plates or replace them and you will need new brake lines, both of which are available from Z1. :tiphat:

Now they aren't painted red, so that you are on your own for... :)

FPenvy 08-01-2018 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3775592)
I talk to Sharif at ZDAYZ and he said he prefers r888r, stocks and sells them and tracks them.

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from what i've seen it seems Forged is a dirty word with a lot of the GTR guys lol as is AAM i guess.

some of these horror story threads on the GTR forum are good reads.

FPenvy 08-01-2018 02:38 PM

i need to find someone who has ran the sport cup 2 tires. anyone here? lol


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