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Moonlitebiker 12-10-2009 07:00 AM

Too funny!
 
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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 315395)
Let's all pitch in and buy this guy a Z :). AK, how many members do we have? If we all donate a dollar...

How did I miss this post!!! We don't need 35,000 memebers. I'd take a used one. ;)

Matt 12-10-2009 08:04 AM

While I can appreciate your decision, I feel I was helped greatly by needing to buy my own first car when I was 16. I worked my butt off for $1500 to buy it, but it was mine.

Perhaps I'm jealous that your son has better parents than I had.

Moonlitebiker 12-10-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 315775)
While I can appreciate your decision, I feel I was helped greatly by needing to buy my own first car when I was 16. I worked my butt off for $1500 to buy it, but it was mine.

Perhaps I'm jealous that your son has better parents than I had.

I did the same and I feel I'm a better person for it. My son however has conditioning every day after school, and practice after that, then games on the weekends. I'm not sure how he'd find time to work without grades or sports or both suffering. I'd rather fork it over and let him enjoy his senior year. Hopefully he learns the right lesson and I didn't just ruin his life.

PapoZalsa 12-13-2009 09:56 PM

I would it bought him a good used car and get my Z.

I love my daughters, straight A's both, but don't mess with my car. :tup:

My younger loves that I bought the MB 370Z because she swear that is going to be her car for college. :rofl2:

theDreamer 12-13-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 322342)
I would it bought him a good used car and get my Z.

I love my daughters, straight As both, but don't mess with my car. :tup:

My younger loves that I bought the MB 370Z because she swear that is going to be her car for college. :rofl2:

This is when you start spending some time and find a hot wheels or even a larger scale model of a MB 370z. :D

semtex 12-14-2009 10:14 AM

You sir, make me glad I don't have kids, and I mean that as a compliment. You see, you've made me realize that I'm just too selfish to be a good father. The magnitude of your sacrifice for your son is almost beyond my comprehension. To say that you deserve kudos would be a massive understatement. My hat is off to you.

370Zsteve 12-14-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 322802)
You sir, make me glad I don't have kids, and I mean that as a compliment. You see, you've made me realize that I'm just too selfish to be a good father. The magnitude of your sacrifice for your son is almost beyond my comprehension. To say that you deserve kudos would be a massive understatement. My hat is off to you.

+1 rep from another selfish childless lout! :tup:

Moonlitebiker 12-20-2009 10:08 PM

5 more days and it will all be worth it. I hope.

hoodust 12-20-2009 11:06 PM

Wow. Just wow.

Props for all the heart. Glad my selfish a$$ doesn't have kids! On the bright side you can guilt him into all kinds of chores he can do with his jeep ;)

Regardless of your sacrifice, your love of the Z means you are REQUIRED to be a permanent member here.

BanningZ 12-20-2009 11:15 PM

Wow! You are one hell of a father.

A Prost to you!

Moonlitebiker 12-25-2009 03:50 PM

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Just wanted to say Merry Christmas to those who gave me so much direction when I was prepping to buy my 370. As you know I ended up buying a jeep for my boy for now. Well today was the day. You should have seen his face when he opened up the car keys and ran outside to find it waiting in the driveway.

It still hurts to not have my Z, but what a rewarding feeling to make someone you love feel so good.

SmoothZ 12-25-2009 08:11 PM

Your thread title is misleading. :) It makes me think there was a tragedy in the family.

Hopefully, your son appreciates the sacrifice and selfless act and pays it back someday.

semtex 12-26-2009 05:16 AM

What, sacrificing a Z isn't a tragedy? I mean, it's for a good cause obviously. But still. ;)

MightyBobo 12-26-2009 06:09 AM

Glad to see it all worked out. Hope you get your own Z in the future!

protoZ 12-26-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonlitebiker (Post 314596)
Today I found out what it really means to be a father. Here I am, finally at a point in life where I can get the car I love. A real car. Not one designed for family vacations, trips to the beach, or enough room for 5 kids and all of their soccer gear. I've had a picture of the 370 on my dresser for almost a year now. I did all my homework and know exactly what I want in the Z and how much I should spend. Then the other night I watched my son, a senior in high school, waiting by the front door for his girlfriend to pick him up for their date. He's a great kid. Good grades. Incredible in sports. Honest. Everything you would want your child to be. Anyway... the Z dream will have to wait. I went to the bank, took out the money from my 370 fund (money from selling the Harley I loved in order to afford the Z), and bought the boy a jeep. Now I just walk around telling myself it will be worth it when I see his eyes on Christmas morning. It's not really helping though. I may have to start drinking.

you are definitely a great parent if my mom hadn't bought my first vehicle back in the day i never would have been driving and probably never been able to get a job to get another. its parents like you that should be inspirations to other crappy parents. you thought of your son before you thought of yourself and thats the difference between being a parent and being a great parent. i applaud your decision. :tiphat: +1

JakeXYRN 12-27-2009 01:48 AM

That's a pretty awesome story. I am sure he will appreciate it very much.
Just don't forget about a little thing called; Karma.
You'll have your day, too!

Saber Rider 12-27-2009 10:18 AM

You are a wonderful father. I personally would have bought my own kid a secondhand car but that just shows the extent of what you feel your son will become one of these days that you bought him something new.

Look on the bright side...now that you bought it for him, if you need a ride he has to say yes...most of the time anyway.

Moonlitebiker 01-10-2010 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Saber Rider (Post 344022)
You are a wonderful father. I personally would have bought my own kid a secondhand car but that just shows the extent of what you feel your son will become one of these days that you bought him something new.

Look on the bright side...now that you bought it for him, if you need a ride he has to say yes...most of the time anyway.

Thanks guys. I really do appreciate all the positive support. Saber Rider, this wasn't a brand new jeep. It is used, but in great shape. Every first vehicle gets banged up at some point so I wasn't about to buy brand new.

Odds are I'll start looking for a used 350Z in a few months. It's not a 370, but I'm pretty sure I'd be happy for now.

bigaudiofanat 01-10-2010 07:42 AM

OP props for being a great father.

law2004 01-13-2010 08:39 PM

my parents got me a corolla 09 in 2008 and now i am giving my car to my dad, and iam getting a 370z.
but thats a great thing your doing, am sure your son will buy you something expensive when he grows older! :)

zmyride 01-14-2010 11:27 PM

How would you feel if your son comes visit you one day and says to you, "Dad. I traded your Jeep for a brand new 370z" :icon18:

fuct 01-15-2010 04:34 PM

if you really loved him you would have just gave him money for a down payment and made him make payments on something. teach him value.....

sorry, guess im just bitter no one ever bought me a car.

nice gesture though.

SgtGoldy 01-16-2010 09:33 AM

Congratz. There is nothing stronger than a fathers love... and to give up a Z for ur kid... god damn... that is a lot of love

SgtGoldy 01-16-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 362092)
if you really loved him you would have just gave him money for a down payment and made him make payments on something. teach him value.....

sorry, guess im just bitter no one ever bought me a car.

nice gesture though.

WOW
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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 362092)
if you really loved him

? kinda harsh rite? I mean the guy just gave up a Z for him... and the kid is gonna go to college... wouldnt focusing on school be a little more important. Granted I never had anything handed to me either but this is what I will do for my son... idk man, that was kinda fuc|<ed up to say.... but I guess that fits your name, doesnt it?

Tyrell Tyson 01-16-2010 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 362092)
if you really loved him you would have just gave him money for a down payment and made him make payments on something. teach him value.....

sorry, guess im just bitter no one ever bought me a car.

nice gesture though.

True True

Yeah its pretty dumb to just give your kids cars... hey heres a free car!!

You think you are doing your kids a favour but really you are not

I'm kinda young and have owned two cars so far, i paid for both of them myself by working hard.

If my father had just paid for them both, sure i would have been real happy but i wouldn't understand the true value of working hard for your first big purchase, the very thing that gives you independence and freedom... when dad buys that for you it aint the same as when you buy it yourself

Plus its green...he wanted black!

- Ty

SgtGoldy 01-17-2010 12:03 PM

I guess young minds think alike

Lug 01-18-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrell Tyson (Post 363890)
True True

Yeah its pretty dumb to just give your kids cars... hey heres a free car!!

You think you are doing your kids a favour but really you are not

I'm kinda young and have owned two cars so far, i paid for both of them myself by working hard.

If my father had just paid for them both, sure i would have been real happy but i wouldn't understand the true value of working hard for your first big purchase, the very thing that gives you independence and freedom... when dad buys that for you it aint the same as when you buy it yourself

Plus its green...he wanted black!

- Ty

I've given all 6 of my kids a car (not new), and only one really didn't appreciate it. He did later in life, just not to much at the time. Now I get to work the guilt thing on that one! :D

Moonlitebiker 01-18-2010 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrell Tyson (Post 363890)
True True

Yeah its pretty dumb to just give your kids cars... hey heres a free car!!

You think you are doing your kids a favour but really you are not

I'm kinda young and have owned two cars so far, i paid for both of them myself by working hard.

If my father had just paid for them both, sure i would have been real happy but i wouldn't understand the true value of working hard for your first big purchase, the very thing that gives you independence and freedom... when dad buys that for you it aint the same as when you buy it yourself

Plus its green...he wanted black!

- Ty

Interesting advice coming from a couple of kids who clearly have never raised children to adulthood, and definitely know nothing about my boy. My son is an honor roll kid headed for college and has excelled in sports for many years. The boy knows about hard work, honor, value, respect and what it takes to succeed. By the way, parents who wait until their child is 17 to try and teach lessons of value and hard work have missed the boat by about 16 years or so. And to try and teach that lesson by having them buy their own car... My guess is they will end up being the type of person who comes to a website and attacks a good father and his son. Shame on you. :icon14:

For the rest of you who know what it takes to be a parent... it's been 24 days and he's still smiling. Me too!

NYBladeZ 01-18-2010 09:48 PM

Awesome move man. My dad is a lot like you...I thank God everyday for being his son and for the opportunities and support he's given me and I'm sure your son is the same. By the way, not every kid out there who is given a new car is spoiled, fk the stats on the spoiled ones but there are still great deserving kids out there, I'm thankful for my gifted life and Z and I'm sure your son will value his Jeep. It looks like a lot of fun to drive I suggest you put the drink down and take it for a spin.

Tyrell Tyson 01-18-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 365540)
I've given all 6 of my kids a car (not new), and only one really didn't appreciate it. He did later in life, just not to much at the time. Now I get to work the guilt thing on that one! :D

Whoa 6 kids and you gave them all a car, that is ALOT of cars, good on you tho...darn 6 lol :tiphat:

- Ty

Tyrell Tyson 01-19-2010 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonlitebiker (Post 366079)
Interesting advice coming from a couple of kids who clearly have never raised children to adulthood, and definitely know nothing about my boy. My son is an honor roll kid headed for college and has excelled in sports for many years. The boy knows about hard work, honor, value, respect and what it takes to succeed. By the way, parents who wait until their child is 17 to try and teach lessons of value and hard work have missed the boat by about 16 years or so. And to try and teach that lesson by having them buy their own car... My guess is they will end up being the type of person who comes to a website and attacks a good father and his son. Shame on you. :icon14:

For the rest of you who know what it takes to be a parent... it's been 24 days and he's still smiling. Me too!

I think you took what i said totally out of context and way too personally.

I never attacked you and your son, nor would i, re-read my post

again here is my point from my original post

"If my father had just paid for them both, sure i would have been real happy but i wouldn't understand the true value of working hard for your first big purchase, the very thing that gives you independence and freedom... when dad buys that for you it aint the same as when you buy it yourself"

We all know you love your kid to death, you sold your bike for him, thats hard for a man to do. I know everyone loves their kids to death and wants to give them the world, in the grand scheme of things giving your kid a car OR making them pay for it is not a life and death matter.

It would be smarter and much more beneficial for you and your kids if you put the down payment on it and make them pay off the rest, i don't see how hard that is to understand. He can work hard at school, college and still pay for his own car, i am doing exactly that...it ain't hard

This way you could have done what you originally came here to do, sell your beautiful bike, buy your 370z and just put the down payment on your sons car, it would be a win/win for everyone.


- Ty

1slow370 01-19-2010 06:33 AM

Ur decision to give a kid a car is ur decision but my parents made me get a job to get mine, never gave me any financial support, i've been working since i was 14 to have the things i want, I'm 20 drive a 370z, was honor roll, a blown knee killed football for me, and the only records I have are driving, and employment. I not only understand the value of working for what i want, i understand being poor and the unfairness that is present in our world that is the majority of us won't get handouts. Nobody knows your kid better than you and plenty of rich kids eventually go on to be rich and do well in there lives so don't think we are trying to tell you what to do it's just that it worked for my parents, it'll work for me. On a side note, I have a friend who had SOO much handed to him by his parents and he is never going anywhere in his life and makes terrible decisions because he isn't responsible for anything he does. If I ever did decide to buy my kid a car, i would make him pay at least half, or buy him a broken car and make him fix it(pass on the car gene ;) ). There are valid points both ways on this.

Edit: just to :stirthepot: as i like arguments, I'm on my 5th car, slated to by house when i turn 26, and have a stable future where the hell is my Jeep :confused:

alexpila 01-19-2010 06:54 AM

I think everyone has different views on what they feels should have been done. I support what you did as you have many reasons for your decision!! My dad always said be patient and work hard and good things will come.

I dont like they way everyone gets so uptight about parents buying new cars for their kids but if they believe they deserve it and they have the money that they have worked hard for and are prepared to spend it on their child it is there choice.

So good on you for doing what you felt was right! its a wonderful car and i hope he has many safe miles in it! (And you never know one day he may end up buying you a new car!!! haha) and Good luck with saving up for your dream car again!!

SgtGoldy 01-19-2010 09:23 AM

again young kids w/out experience think alike

NYBladeZ 01-19-2010 09:28 AM

man if I was the OP I'd lock the post, many people out there didn't have the opportunity that the OP gave his son. Many of us also know about many people who were given the world and squandered it, but they over look the fact that young people such as myself actually make something of the opportunity. OP you did a great thing, hands down and you know it

Tyrell Tyson 01-19-2010 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 366421)
man if I was the OP I'd lock the post, many people out there didn't have the opportunity that the OP gave his son. Many of us also know about many people who were given the world and squandered it, but they over look the fact that young people such as myself actually make something of the opportunity. OP you did a great thing, hands down and you know it

lol you got given a car didn't you :stirthepot:


- Ty

Moonlitebiker 01-20-2010 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 366421)
man if I was the OP I'd lock the post, many people out there didn't have the opportunity that the OP gave his son. Many of us also know about many people who were given the world and squandered it, but they over look the fact that young people such as myself actually make something of the opportunity. OP you did a great thing, hands down and you know it

Thanks for the kind words. I certainly don't mind folks having their own ideas, even if they differ from mine or yours. What cracks me up is when they insist I'm wrong and I must share their "fact" of an opinion. You have to love young kids saying things like, "It would be smarter and much more beneficial for you and your kids if you..." How can a 20 year old know what is smarter or better for me to do when they don't know anything about me, my life, nor my child?

Anyway as long as my son keeps his grades up, does his chores and goes to practice every day after school, I consider that his job in life right now. He isn't going to be learning anything more by packing groceries or shoveling snow.

The Z fund is slowly growing.

Tyrell Tyson 01-20-2010 09:22 AM

Brooooo don't take it personally

I noticed you mention earlier that you had a car before,

"Thanks everybody. I actually was going to let him just take my car when I bought a new Z, but my car sucks"

You coulda given him that car and still bough yourself a 370z right???


- Ty

feelzpwr91 01-20-2010 09:54 AM

great job man, great job

Lug 01-20-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrell Tyson (Post 366182)
Whoa 6 kids and you gave them all a car, that is ALOT of cars, good on you tho...darn 6 lol :tiphat:

- Ty

I consider having 6 kids an intellegence test......I failed. :(





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