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bryan_Z34 09-30-2014 01:52 PM

Straight piped for power
 
Hey guys, currently I'm running non resonated test pipes , Topspeer 2.5 inch dual cat back, and my own shirt tails with those hemlotz resonators in them. Leo you think I am loosing any significant power ?? My car is a 2014 Nismo 370z btw

DEpointfive0 09-30-2014 01:57 PM

Why would you lose power?

bryan_Z34 09-30-2014 02:27 PM

No pressure in the bsck anymore

bryan_Z34 09-30-2014 03:30 PM

I removed th mufflers

kornflake7 09-30-2014 03:34 PM

Just changing the mufflers isn't gonna lose or gain you any power

bryan_Z34 09-30-2014 05:42 PM

Exactly! Why the hell
Do people keep insisting I am loosing power and torque from taking off my mufflers from my cat back

Rusty 09-30-2014 07:31 PM

Do you know what your A/F is? With the muffler gone. You might be lean.

09-30-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2984132)
Do you know what your A/F is? With the muffler gone. You might be lean.

Agree.

bryan_Z34 09-30-2014 07:41 PM

I have no idea, but if I am, a tune would correct it? Btw what wre consequences of running lean

Tadpole 09-30-2014 08:34 PM

Don't worry about running lean. I put a custom dual with top speed axle backs and my Z screams. I even picked up 2-3mpg too. I'm at 22.5 on daily and 28 hwy. Go for it and you will be happy. There is a bit of drone tho.

aszyd 09-30-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bryan_Z34 (Post 2984019)
Exactly! Why the hell
Do people keep insisting I am loosing power and torque from taking off my mufflers from my cat back

They are insisting that you are losing low down torque due to the loss of back pressure from having no restrictions, such as cats, and a larger pipe diameter, which would increase flow. A tune would correct the A/F and bring some of that lost power back.

As for consequences, if you were really lean it could cause detonation and damage your engine. I doubt that's happening though. The ECU will compensate as much as it can.

Rusty 09-30-2014 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aszyd (Post 2984296)
They are insisting that you are losing low down torque due to the loss of back pressure from having no restrictions, such as cats, and a larger pipe diameter, which would increase flow. A tune would correct the A/F and bring some of that lost power back.

As for consequences, if you were really lean it could cause detonation and damage your engine. I doubt that's happening though. The ECU will compensate as much as it can.

When the ECU is in closed loop. It can adjust the A/F pretty close to where it needs to be, unless it is too far to the one side. Then you need a tune. At WOT, think you will need a tune to correct the A/F. As for engine damage. Agree, detonation, burnt exhaust valves, turn the tops of the pistons into silly putty, burn the ends of the spark plugs off, etc. Don't ask me how I know. :facepalm:

bryan_Z34 10-01-2014 12:00 AM

wow, so exactly how much power (hp and torque) am I really loosing from being straight piped on my nismo? even with a tune will I never have as good power output as with mufflers?

Rusty 10-01-2014 01:53 AM

Hard to guess on power loss. The only way to know for sure is to dyno before and after. You lost a couple ponies, and some torque on top. How much, don't know. With a tune. You might be more then what you had before the mods. Don't know because you have no base line.

Jordo! 10-01-2014 02:16 AM

Probably not losing any power down low -- test pipes and exhaust delete are common mods that haven't shown losses to the best of my knowledge -- and you almost certainly gained a good bit up top.

Now, how the ECU has adjusted to these changes (especially without a tune to deal with the missing cats...) isn't clear.

Do you have a CEL (SES) light on?


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