TBH, I think my Berk system (though only with HFCs, so a bit less raspy) sounds better than this system. And it costs a lot less.

As for the FI being overpriced, I am pretty sure the Meisterschaft and ArmyTrix (or however you spell them, I'm too lazy to look) are the ones you should be saying are overpriced and you're only paying for a logo.

As for them making something for a Lambo or Ferrari - that's how they're getting you to pay that ridiculous price for a similar system that you can get for $12-1500. You've been suckered.


And tell your friend to get a new potato! It's still nice to hear the exhaust notes clearly regardless of how I feel about the prices.

Oh and yours sounds like a bunch of frat boys that have had each others a**es blown out by each others "daddys." .... no restrrictions!!

FI is the best exhaust in terms of value when you merge cost, sound, and quality. And some inexpensive modifications to it can make it damn beastly, as FP has proven.

Armytrix exhaust is ridiculously overpriced IMO. I'm sure they use high quality materials - they better for the price. But adding cutout valves is pretty gimmicky and doesn't justify the price (a shop could install some QTP cutout valves on a stock exhaust for a few hundred bucks). I'm sure it sounds fine, but I bet the sound doesn't justify the price either when you compare it to other options.

At least the GT Haus Meisterschaft exhaust looks as good as it sounds. I love that exhaust, but I'm way too practical to spend that kind of money on one. For those that do, I'm sure they love it. To each their own. But don't think people can't get just as much enjoyment out of their exhaust for significantly less $$$.

Btw... I think it's awesome what vivid is offering to get some good data on the Meisterschaft system. Kudos :tiphat:

Now, i am a little biased when it comes to the Meisterschaft because i absolutely love the sound, and the guys at GThaus are great, but i have to disagree with you on this. Meisterschaft is not similar to a $1200 system, and they are not getting you to pay the high price just because they also make systems for high end cars. The 370z exhaust is made in the same place, with the same quality and craftsmanship as the exhaust thats going on the Bentley that they made right before it. Do you think that someone with a $400,000 car is going to put anything thats not top quality on their vehicle? Dont think so. I deal with just about all the REALLY high end exhaust manufacturers (supersprint, capristo, akrapovic, novitec, fabspeed..to name a few) and none of them make anything for the 370Z. My point is, that i'm happy that there is a exhaust manufacturer thats considered "high end" that takes the time to even develop a system for the Nissan. And i would be willing to bet that everyone on here that owes their exhaust would agree.

you sound like a moron.

you're saying FI is expensive but your nazi exhaust cost's double.....doesnt make power, doesnt sound as good, and looks ok.

i'm confused are you stupid, simple, or slow? maybe a combo?

sodenot meisterschaft sounds super gay. getting mister shafted sounds better :)

soooo better sound, performance, and quality for 1/2 the price. hmmm and the FI guys are the dumb ones....ok buddy.

you just keep making people overpay for parts. enjoy.

so much fail. you had all that time while i was in a meeting and this is what you came up with.

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please take another hour and try again. first attempt was pathetic. sorta like your little "exhaust whore" tag. just awful.

I'm pretty sure they do. Or at least did. FireDan50 had one.

Not a Z but here is my G37 with stock cats and full GTHAUS :)

http://youtu.be/zPrWmmFng1g

Sounds incredible! :tup:

[QUOTE=soooo better sound, performance, and quality for 1/2 the price. hmmm and the FI guys are the dumb ones....ok buddy.

you just keep making people overpay for parts. enjoy.[/QUOTE]


1. Better sound is a matter of opinion
2. Performance really hasn't been proven (im in the process of getting dyno results right now)
3. Quality? I hope you arent trying to say that the FI is better quality, cause one look at both of them side by side, and that myth is busted.
4. I dont make anyone overpay for anything.. Not like i make the pricing. If anything, If one of my forum customer wants a very good exhaust and wants to spend the money on a Meisterschaft system, they get a nice discount.

So, just to recap... Nothing you said really holds any water. I dont see why you're so hell bent against Meisterschaft either?

You're right.. they do make one, my mistake. I was just in the moment lol

If I had a $400,000 car, sure, but I have a cheap $38,000 Z. To me it's not worth it to spend that much on an exhaust for this car. It's not really anything special (don't get me wrong, I love the car to death).

have you ever seen a FI exhaust to say the quality is inferior to gthaus? i mean yea the meistershaft has a million welds they make look good but there's about a million people who can make a weld look pretty. hell i havent welded since HS and i'm sure i can make a pretty weld.

i'm pretty sure there's a reason there is an est. 12 week wait for a FI exhaust and it's not because they are understaffed. its popular for the quality, performance, price, and spectaular customer service.

plus true duals and straighter piping path will most likely put down more power than an exhaust that crosses over itself, has multiple bends, and collides the exhaust gasses multiple times. just a little technical info a site sponsor probably should know. :tiphat:

I have ran both FI and GTHAUS.

1. Fast Intentions - Magnaflow Mid-Pipe with SS Mufflers (Old Style)
2. Fast Intentions - 18" Resonated X-Pipe with CF MUfflers
3. Fast Intentions - 12" Resonated X-Pipe with SS MUfflers
4. Fast Intentions - 12" Resonated X-Pipe with SS Mufflers and Resonated HFC's

5. GTHAUS Full Catback with stock cats and with RHFC's

Sound with stock cats alone and GTHAUS is phenomenal even compared to any previous setup IMHO.

I agree with Vivid Racing, side by side there is no comparison, sound was a huge difference between Meisterschaft and any of my previous FI setups although a non resonated FI setup with RHFC's sounds very good too.

Will one exhaust make more power than the other? Yeah probably but that was not my goal here.

My car has always been daily driven very low (Slammed) so another reason why I got away from FI was because I destroyed 2 sets of mufflers.

Quality is all there and worth every penny you get with GTHAUS. Lowered car friendly was also a huge plus even though I love the angled mufflers from FI I prefer the way GTHAUS stacked there system so the clearance is great even when I air down :) :tup:

Agreed, I like the stacked mufflers vs. the angled look even on my stock height Z. That's why I went with Berk (couldn't justify a $2,500 exhaust for a DD).

You are indeed correct that sound is the most subjective topic for all of us....


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These discussions sure do help the day go by though :rofl2:

Also... I did have a local guy with a 2014 Nismo just message me about possibly doing the install and before and after dyno, so lets all keep our fingers crossed!:tup:

Greetings Vivid Racing, you sure have my vote for patience and understanding.
Food for thought.......... How much sound can you really extrapolate from a Nissan factory built and machine assembled Nissan 370Z engine... Again exhaust sounds are extremely subjective to all of us. GL

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Here is a short video to break all this friction and tension today. Cheer Up All......



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIXwQVFt8Ho

Is HE the reason i never got my pizza?!

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I have seen/heard your set up on Instagram, along with Danny's SC'd G. I have talked a lot with him, and on and off with Mark from Stillen. I will be going with the Stillen SC kit, and I'm this close to saying screw it and getting the Meisterschaft exhaust. What's 10hp when you're boosted? I heard F.I. at Zdayz this year, and I wanted more from it. It's probably the most efficient exhaust power wise, but I want something unique. Something that's sounds like a Formula 1 car at WOT. Like I said before, I'm staying with the stock cats because the SC likes back pressure. So test pipes aren't an option power or sound wise. I never wanted this post to turn ugly :/

If you do it, I'll make you an awesome deal! Like, REALLY awesome :tup:

PM me how good :)

My Nismo was a test mule for Berk Technology and very happy ....................

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Its totally OK with me if you wanna post on here something like... WOW!! That IS an awesome price! haha :happydance:

Hahaha DID NOT see that coming! That really is an awesome price. :bangbangpow:

Paypal or credit card? :tup:

Meisterschaft / ArmyTrix
 

I'm now sponsored by InCurve wheels and they'll be here next week :) As soon as I sale my 2013 Touring Rays, I will be doing business through PayPal :) I've always done a neutral colored wheel, time to break the mold with triple coated candy purple :D http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/07/jyveduga.jpg

Nice Wheel...........................
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That looks sweet man! Have you seen the Niche wheels we put on our project 991 turbo? I love it when people get creative with wheel color.

http://www.mhtwheels.com/cms_images/...rand-Prix8.jpg

http://cdn1.vierenzestig.nl/wp-conte...che-991_-2.jpg

..... And gold! :tup:

http://images.thecarconnection.com/l...00444887_l.jpg

http://moparblog.com/wp-content/uplo...Viper-3qtr.jpg

Man fast intentions should hire you. Your in another exhaust thread hating. Fast intention fan boys. SMH. Get over it not everyone wants the FI exhaust.

I'm a Berk Technology man...................

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I'm just down for whatever sounds good. For the life of me I don't understand why someone cares about how another man spends his money. That's female sh!t!!!!!

Best thing I've heard yet (aside from videos of the Meisterschaft).

Can you guys please check your e-mail. Waiting on a Fujimura rear diffy for a few months...

Who have you been emailing? I haven't gotten anything regarding a diffuser personally, but I will check into it tomorrow for you. PM me your information so I can search for your order.

I personally think Meisterschaft exhaust is phenomenal. The quality and craftsmanship is top notch and you get what you pay for. You will notice that I attached a photo of the Meisterschaft exhaust and this was done the day I got the exhaust. Just look at the level of detail (welds & bends) that is done to the Meisterschaft exhaust. I didn't buy this exhaust because I wanted to get 1whp, 10whp, or 100whp. I bought the exhaust solely for the sexy sound it creates. In the end to each is own and you are going to do whatever it is that you want to do.

The second attachment is a dyno (mustang dyno) that was done on my car on 12/31/13 and everything on my sig was on the car. Below is a link of what the car sounded like on the mustang dyno with everything on it from my sig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfpX...ature=youtu.be

Wow! That video is raw! Thank you for sharing. Full exhaust? Stock cats?

Your welcome & not a problem big guy. It's the full Meisterschaft exhaust, along with F. I. Resonated High Flow Cats, Stillen Gen 3 & Motordyne M370. I'm thinking about getting the F. I. LTH's for Xmas along with the 130mm Meisterschaft exhaust tips.