Scott, it wasn't behind your back. You failed refused to provide contact information so he called the only number that he had available.

He said he asked for you, but you were unreachable, so he dealt with whomever (Sean/Shawn/Shaun) was on the phone at the time. You cannot expect someone to do everything (especially a dispute that needs to be taken care of) over forum PMs or email. It's just too slow and gives you too much time to think of an excuse, etc.

the part of a porter isn't the issue. the issue is that you're a fuckin douche lol

no one wants to do business with you.

that is the point. we can all find a porter too.

Not if we have anything to do with it. And definitely not on these forums.

Oh you mean one with a similar sense of business as you? I'm sure that'll work out well ;)

Well, finding one that will let you hide behind their credibility might be harder than you think.

Lower only showed up! Painters are at the shop now and took this pic.

So we have TB's and a lower. No second upper or mounting plates. if they get here on the 16th there will be a refund for original agreed amount like I always said!! His original m370 will be shipped back to him unless Shawn wants to buy it off him.

Never had to be this difficult.

You don't have to we already found one his name is Shawn. Although you may need to find one to continue doing stuff for yourself.

lol I'm pretty sure you are buying that mani too... don't expect the claim to be dropped if Shawn told him he would get a refund for it.

He sent them weeks apart. How do I know what and when he sent and what's inside? I did read. I see a tracking for the 16th and a tracking he never sent for today. That's his fault on lack of communication to me for the last several days.

Did you ask for tracking info? He didn't send them to you. Why would he bother sending you the tracking info. Your fault for not asking. Again. Like a child...

Did you even look at it?

Wrong again. Called him before all of this. I'll screen shot call log. And does email and PM's stop working here? We already established he had my number and talked to me via phone call and text message!

In a normal business someone that answered the phone doesn't speak for everyone especially when that someone selling my stuff without collecting money. You say sorry he's not here I'll take a message. Can you agree that's the correct solution? Not take just your cut and send stuff without proper payment or collateral or letting me know!

I think we've pretty well established that you don't run anything remotely resembling a normal business.

Also, it sounds like he just called the guy that provided better customer service. Can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing.

If he buys me out and all my parts go for it! I have no issue with that! Even from the get go I said the TB porter was maxbore! Go to him if you don't need a core exchange and your car can be down for a week or two! But shawn and Max bore have deals worked out with me. Are they going to give you guys the same deal? Probably not. Pay more, I don't care. I only did this to pass savings onto you guys and to do the dyno work and such to show results! I'm fine being done with this drama.

Anyone that answers a phone, email, whatever, for a business is the face of the business. It's what your customers see, experience, speak to. The sure as **** represent your business. Whether it's yours or one that you're partnering with or being a middle-man to.

God I hope so! I don't give **** away for free! I collect money or returns before i send stuff out.

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You won't be collecting much money with your sense of business and [lack of] customer service skills.

You also insult your customers, steal from fellow forum members (and lie about it), and have absolutely no people skills.

I'm not hiding. Always said who it was. But they're my parts I paid for to have done for everyone. Go to them direct, it's fine with me. I believe normal shop rates are about $100 an hour. If he gives you the same deal and you can wait a few weeks while he does CF stuff more power to him and you guys. I have to issue with it. Let me know how well it all goes.

Your idea was noble, but your execution is flawed.

Actually I'm still being nice and will give him a refund when I get his stuff but not buying the mani. Like I said I called PayPal already! At this point they want him to give me everything back and I'll do the same. If he wants to push me into the mani they I'll stick with PayPal and he won't get anything till my stuff returned to me.

Way to gloss over the real points I made.

Well Scott at least everyone knows now I am a honest thief and liar. If there is such a thing. I sent Sean both tracking numbers and if your communication with him is anything like it has been with me and reading post on here today I feel really bad for Shawn. I have been telling you this since you freaked out about shawn taking care of the issue. But, I can see you still blame me for that..

That's funny because the only thing PayPal has sent me was a partial refund offer by you which I declined.. This guy is unreal.. So please clarify the amount and what you will be refunding please.

I insult when insulted. I never lied and I proved it. You just refuse the proof. Stand up guy though not seeing the proof right in front of you. Hate me for being me but you can at least except the facts and agree to them but hate me as a person. I've never lied and never will! PM me anything I'll tell you anything you want to know. Coming from you im surprised you say this stuff. Thought you had more sence than that.

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I'm sorry but that stamp you show as proof means nothing. It even says "return to sender" on it. The post office doesn't deliver empty packages. They send them back to the shipper. Oh and you just lied like five times in that post.

Jesus Christ it's Shawn! Who doesn't read here?

I called you first day about the mani! You know this! You agreed to that!!! Now after I called you a liar! Same day I sent you texts. You agreed to that and said thank you to me! You only started this when you found out I was mad someone I pay for stuff sent you my stuff without payment. And only then did you start the return process when I was pissed! It's been several days now and stuff slowly been coming in! I still don't have it all yet but here you are wanting a full refund from me! You'll get it and from the get go I said you get it! But ONLY when you return it all!

Again I'm still being a nice guy. You have the option as of now to keep the ported parts. PayPal is still waiting on you to return all my stuff. When the mani and plates get here you can cancel the claim so I can refund or we'll both call PayPal and they'll refund for what you have. I again will not be buying your original m370. I'm sending that back to you or to Shawn. If Shawn wants it he can buy it off of you. Are original agreement still stands as it always has. You get a partial refund for the amount I already quoted you. No more, no less.

Scott,

Just say your broke and you spent the money. Let me know it will take some time but to keep this going on and now say you are a nice guy is sad. Now it's not only my fault is is now Shawns. What is the amount you believe you should pay me back Mr. Nice Guy???

Scott, you never once said he'd get a full refund, so there's another lie. Hell, even in the same ******* post you contradict yourself!!

Cut your losses and move on.

Really? Where's it say that? My post office stamped it 3 times saying they got it without contents. Wtf more do you want? And how or why would I know what he paid for insurance. Do you want to call my local post office? The post master general Tom I believe will know this well as he told me that's what that stamp means when I showed him the box. Again you don't believe me but yet I'm providing all the proof you need. You want me to go there with a video camera and have him explain it to you on video?

Can u imagine if I actually sent all this back to Scott?? This part is broken and this is missing. Blah!!

Lol I never said I'm broke. I said your claim emptied the pp account. I did pay Shawn for the porting so of course a full claim would put it into the red!

You got a ported upper, a ported lower, ported TB's, a m370 and porting for that m370.

Uppers are $495, $250 core
Lowers are $495, $200 core
TB's are $495, $190 core
I bought a m370 for you for $430 and said id give you that back when I got yours. So far I gave you a complete m370, you have not done the same.
Porting for the uppers are $245 ($495 minus $250 core return).

You owed me $2,160 but you only gave Shawn and I $1499. You're $661 short!

When I get your m370 mounting plate you get the agreed upon $430 back. Now that I have your lower you get $200 back. I have your TB's so you get $190 back. And if you also retuned our m370 you get the $245 back for the porting.

Let's do the math ONCE AGAIN and this is already in your email!!!! You owe me $661 still, I soon will owe you $1065. That means I'll owe you $404 when I have ALL!!!! Your stuff back. You denied that amount in PayPal! I will also be returning your original m370 as I never agreed to buy it off of you!

So do you except your m370 plus $404 like I told you already? If not I can be a real **** and let you keep the PayPal claim and I'll get a pretty sweet and cheap deal on a m370! Again I'm being a nice guy here by returning that to you!!! $404 minus your claim amount is not what I'd sell a m370 for if I was you!! You can get a **** load more for it! You're only screwing yourself here by this. I'm being honest and fair! If you really did ship my m370 back I could of just kept my mouth shut and sell your m370 and let you win that claim! But I'm not gonna screw you! I never have and never will! That m370 belongs to you because we never agreed Id buy it! Only agreement was for a m370 for a m370. But you have my upper now so you get your m370 back!

You're right, he wouldn't. He'd get the core only. Sorry I didn't put the word core into that sentence!

Lol so now you didnt send it all back?

Why out of dozens and dozens of me doing full parts with people in the usa, Middle East, Australia, why would you be the one person out of everyone Id screw over? I shipped worldwide with returns all at ONCE,! with less headache then your ***!!!!

Too much!
I feel sick now! :shakes head: Worst read ever..

On the stamp itself, dip$hit.

Lmao then how did it get in my mailbox? Did I go inside to the post office and steal it? God for bid the United States Postal Service ever would make a mistake like this. Can you read return to sender on any of the three stamps on that box? Because I sure can't.

lol you're the one who posted up a picture of an unreadable stamp on the box and then posted a picture of the supposed stamp, which read "Return to Sender. Received Without Contents." Of course the post office makes mistakes. But your story did not seem legit when considering all the evidence. And quit trying to argue your case. You got Guru's money, so just shut up about it. You're not going to change anyone's mind here.