hmm, looks like i know what i'm getting myself for x-mas

these will be up for pre order after SEMA.

Must. Start. Saving. NOW

I don't even care if I don't have headers/hi-cat/CAI - want GROWL!!

Sounds good, is this with the stock cats?

yea they only mention the coilovers in the video so are we to assume the rest is stock? I'm guessing no.

Yes, this is with stock cats. I'll have a video posted with berk hfc's hopefully by next week :tup:

302 HP with just exhaust... hmmmm...

Sorry if it's been discussed. But hows the clearance on this vs FI? I see in the video its pretty low, but the car has been dropped. I've been thinking about doing both possibly. But I'd appreciate if someone would fill me in on the clearance.

That exhaust sounds really nice....

The exhaust does hang low...? what is the clearance on the type 2 vs the type 1?

the lowest point under the car is the Flange where the muffler and mid-pipe meet. The our final production, the flange will be lifted to ensure no scraps and bottoming out although it still clears.

So you're saying that the height in the video(not considering ride height) is lower than the final product?

You caught the part in the video where it says the car they used has been lowered with KW V3 coilovers, right? So don't get your underwear in a wad over how close the exhaust is to the ground in the video, as it's not representative of how low it'd be on a car with stock suspension height. And if perchance you've lowered your car, well . . . that has nothing to do with the design of the exhaust. Reducing ground clearance is what happens when one lowers his/her car.

Yea, I totally understand the car is lowered, hence the reduced ground clearance in the video. And I know that clearance won't be an issue when the car isn't lowered. I was just curious to ask since FI also has low ground clearance and at this point I'm trying to decide between these 2 exhausts so if I knew which one had better ground clearance would make the decision a little easier for me. Especially if I end up using coilovers.

Ah, I understand now. You know, I was comparing pics of the FI with the ARK, and I was about to say that there's no real difference between the height of the flanges of both designs. But then I went back and replayed ARK's video, and I'm not so sure I agree that the flanges are the lowest point. It might just be the camera angle, but it looks to me like the front edge of the mufflers actually sit a little lower, and that's probably due to having to make room for the extra resonator / backpressure tube up top.

Check it out:
http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1257864093

I thought the same exact thing after seeing the video. The can is definitely lower than the flange.