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wildmark 06-10-2013 09:45 PM

K&N Typhoon or Takeda Short Version
 
I'm sure this has been asked before but I have done a search and nothing came up.
I have narrowed it down to this two, apart from the cost what are the difference between to two?

Regards

H2O_Doc 06-10-2013 09:50 PM

I can't speak to performance, but the Typhoon can be had on Amazon for $293. Not a bad deal.

Zoren 370 06-10-2013 09:59 PM

I do have the typhoon don't have the numbers to speak off but k&n says about 14hp but of course it's a marketing thing. But as far as I'm concerned it works well with my z and looks very nice and aggressive in the engine bay with the twin filters showing.
Most people over here use/like the gen 3. Me I like the filters showing!:tup:

wildmark 06-10-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2357146)
I can't speak to performance, but the Typhoon can be had on Amazon for $293. Not a bad deal.

that's very good deal!

Zoren 370 06-10-2013 10:11 PM

I say go for it you'll never go wrong with k&n!

wildmark 06-10-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 2357161)
I do have the typhoon don't have the numbers to speak off but k&n says about 14hp but of course it's a marketing thing. But as far as I'm concerned it works well with my z and looks very nice and aggressive in the engine bay with the twin filters showing.
Most people over here use/like the gen 3. Me I like the filters showing!:tup:

What's installation like?

XwChriswX 06-10-2013 10:27 PM

There are no real major differences in the two. They are both SRI's. The only difference really would be K&N uses an Oiled filter, where as the Takeda I believe uses a Dry filter.


For the price of either, an SRI for this motor is not wise for HP gains...


If you're going for PURE LOOKS, then I would also throw in the R2C intakes. I've seen them and they look really cool. Plus you have options on the pipe coating/color as well. :tup:

Gibby1113 06-10-2013 10:28 PM

I've heard good things from the R2C intakes as well and they use dry filters. Check it out. Just another option :tup:

XwChriswX 06-10-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildmark (Post 2357187)
What's installation like?

Installation:

1. Remove Negative (-) Battery Terminal. Remove Strut Bar, Unplug MAF Sensors

2. Remove OEM Intake Boxes/Post MAF Tubes.

3. Remove MAF Sensors from OEM Post MAF tubes and insert into new intake pipes.

4. Piece together (loosely) new intakes and put in engine bay. Line them up. Tighten everything down once you're satisfied.

5. Follow either the K&N/Takeda installation instructions for any air shields that need to be installed.

6. Reinstall OEM Strut bar, plug in MAF sensors, reinstall Neg. battery terminal.


Thats it. Total time: <1 hour

Zoren 370 06-10-2013 10:39 PM

The long tubes is definitely the way for hp gains but I'm more for the looks in th engine bay.
Install for the k&n the most is 45mins to an hour. Btw wrapped the tubes with thermal insulators like wrap it exhaust insulators. The tubes thus get hot inside the engine bay and made a huge difference once wrapped.
I wish I can post pictures.

Thank you Chris for the detailed install guide.:tup:

H2O_Doc 06-11-2013 06:13 AM

There is currently a Typhoon on Ebay for $200 used. Seller says 6000 mi on it. I'm. It sure I'd forego new to save $93 (oh, and his shipping is high).

Actually, I'm not sure this is a helpful post when I think about, but I hammered it out so there you have it.

H2O_Doc 06-11-2013 07:06 AM

I got to thinking about this post, because I'm in a mod quandary myself. This is a great place to get info and advice, but it is difficult sometimes because it spread out, sometimes contradictory, sometimes drawn from opinion and web-lore, and mod benefits reported often don't include the meta-data about what other mods might have been done before and how that might affect actual results.

It sometimes strikes me that there is some good data mining that could be done here (maybe data mining isn't the best phrase right now). It might be worth looking at mods by part/manufacturer and reporting actual test results (best) or other less rigorous results (not as good, but useful).

Too bad we don't have an intern.

XwChriswX 06-11-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2357499)
I got to thinking about this post, because I'm in a mod quandary myself. This is a great place to get info and advice, but it is difficult sometimes because it spread out, sometimes contradictory, sometimes drawn from opinion and web-lore, and mod benefits reported often don't include the meta-data about what other mods might have been done before and how that might affect actual results.

It sometimes strikes me that there is some good data mining that could be done here (maybe data mining isn't the best phrase right now). It might be worth looking at mods by part/manufacturer and reporting actual test results (best) or other less rigorous results (not as good, but useful).

Too bad we don't have an intern.

It has often been documented and quantified that SRI's are not the way to go for the (overheating) VHR motor. CAI's are sadly the way to get power out of this motors intake side.

H2O_Doc 06-11-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2358292)
It has often been documented and quantified that SRI's are not the way to go for the (overheating) VHR motor. CAI's are sadly the way to get power out of this motors intake side.

Understood, thanks for the clarification. The scientist in me thinks it would be interesting to keep statistics on gains from the common mods. Especially interesting because there are more thank few folks that get dyno numbers. Could be a fun data set to play with.

tjlazer 06-11-2013 05:37 PM

the gains on the CAI vs HAI is only on the top end anyways. Only issue is the hot engine bay that can heat soak the intakes and rob HP on launches. But when cruising its all good. I dynoed the Typhoons and got ~6rwhp gains on them. I like the easy install and not modding the car to install them.

wildmark 06-11-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2357196)
Installation:

1. Remove Negative (-) Battery Terminal. Remove Strut Bar, Unplug MAF Sensors

2. Remove OEM Intake Boxes/Post MAF Tubes.

3. Remove MAF Sensors from OEM Post MAF tubes and insert into new intake pipes.

4. Piece together (loosely) new intakes and put in engine bay. Line them up. Tighten everything down once you're satisfied.

5. Follow either the K&N/Takeda installation instructions for any air shields that need to be installed.

6. Reinstall OEM Strut bar, plug in MAF sensors, reinstall Neg. battery terminal.


Thats it. Total time: <1 hour


Thank you.

wildmark 06-11-2013 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2357481)
There is currently a Typhoon on Ebay for $200 used. Seller says 6000 mi on it. I'm. It sure I'd forego new to save $93 (oh, and his shipping is high).

Actually, I'm not sure this is a helpful post when I think about, but I hammered it out so there you have it.

Thanks, I would rather have new.

XwChriswX 06-11-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2358361)
Understood, thanks for the clarification. The scientist in me thinks it would be interesting to keep statistics on gains from the common mods. Especially interesting because there are more thank few folks that get dyno numbers. Could be a fun data set to play with.

For sure, it would take a lot of $$$ to do it, but someone to do a direct back to back to back to back to back set of dynos to actually see how they all stack up on a stock car would be nice... That would be the final point in all of it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 2358455)
the gains on the CAI vs HAI is only on the top end anyways. Only issue is the hot engine bay that can heat soak the intakes and rob HP on launches. But when cruising its all good. I dynoed the Typhoons and got ~6rwhp gains on them. I like the easy install and not modding the car to install them.

True that is the case, but most people don't buy an exhaust for cruising. They buy it to have the highest hp gain/$$ invested. That's why SRI's for this car don't really do well to those people. The ones that buy them like the form over function and accept a slight loss in top end HP.

I'm not saying there is anything fundamentally wrong with them, just if you want high numbers, they are not the route to go with this motor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildmark (Post 2358586)
Thank you.

No prob! :tiphat:

sparky 06-11-2013 09:10 PM

I went with the K & N and i like it. It wasn't for a huge power gain but it made the car a bit snappier, looks good and was easy to install. I was also waiting for my fast intentions exhaust and needed some kind of mod to tide me over. :tup:

wildmark 06-12-2013 02:00 PM

I just ordered the K&N Typoon off amazon, I should get it Friday, I'll fit it over the weekend and post some pictures.

Thanks guys, next will be the exhaust and then I should be done! :tiphat:

moosawi 06-12-2013 07:23 PM

Doesnt it void your warranty?

H2O_Doc 06-12-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moosawi (Post 2360341)
Doesnt it void your warranty?

It probably can't "void" the warranty outright. If something you add or modify causes damage or premature failure, then a warranty claim can be denied. Better in theory than practice, but there are consumer protection laws that keep manufacturers from denying claims for modifications unrelated to the subject of the claim.

XwChriswX 06-12-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moosawi (Post 2360341)
Doesnt it void your warranty?

Adding a part can only (Legally) void your warranty if the failure can be directly attributed to what You did.

i.e. You change from the stock cats to Test pipes, and blow an o2 sensor. They can choose to not replace the o2 sensor under warranty.

But if you say, put an intake on your car, they can't void your warranty when a brake line fails.




They just use that as fear inducing talk because most people don't take the time to know what the ins/outs are about warranties. :tiphat:

FuTuRe is Z 11-25-2013 04:19 PM

Sorry for revisiting an old thread, but my concern is as follows, since we're on an intake debate here. How would you rate the ease of filter replacement on the Gen3 intake? Does it require removal of the front bumper similar to the installation of the intake?

Also, if anyone can recall on the 350z the stock air intake was plenty adequate and I'd imagine it should suffice on the 370z with better filters and post MAF hoses. I'm sure with some modification to the airbox itself allowing cold air from the center of the front bumper or below the bumper to find access to the airbox would see increased benefits. I haven't peaked around, but for me having a CAI on my previous vehicle which required me to remove the front bumper to replace/wash it was a pain.


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