Muffler Help,,Replace oem exhaust with an Ebay muffler,
 

Has Any one replaced a muffler,just muffler with one from ebay that goes for$300? Seller is Top Speed Pro-1..
" Nissan 370Z NISMO 09-12 Stock Upgrade Axleback Exhaust With Bevel Edge Tips"

I want to replace the stock muffler on my wife's new 370, oem set up is a little weak and quiet for such a nice sports car,,,,
Would like to get an Nismo oem exhaust system or a different muffler to give it a lilttle more sound,but i dont want to go crazy on the budget....which is around $400-500, Im in New Mexico if someone is selling one that might work for the Z Let me know...:happydance:
Dont want to pull trigger on Ebay muffler if its quality sucks...Thanks in advance for any input or help regarding this post....have a great day...:happydance:

I would stay away from eBay junk!
And now that that's out of the way, I would save up a little more and get an actual exhaust I have the Fast Intentions CBE and I love it
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Or if you are wanting to go really cheap... Just do the washer mod. That's what I did until I had the cash for the exhaust.

AAM short tails? Sound amazing and only cost $300-400.:tup:

Actually I think Randy "370ZRR" (370Z designer) got that axel-back exhaust on his car. He did it cuz it is a corporate Nissan car and he didn't want the hassle of switching a CBE back to stock. I've heard and seen it and it's not bad. The tips do stick out a bit tho.

how loud is it with this pipes, annoying? cool rumble? is it better than washer mod?

Quality is meh. Sometimes you get lucky. others don't. Fitment is decent and sound is good. Metal seems a little thin so a couples years down the road could be having issues with it. Plenty of guys runnj g the Top Speed exhaust though. Many are happy with it but build quality just needs to take a couple steps up.

so if You guys had to pick, an oem Nismo exhaust, short pipes or EBay Top Speed Pro-1.. mufflers only all around the same budget??..$350-500..

if you think it's such a nice sports car, don't put ebay "stock upgrade axleback"

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I can actually say that I have heard the top speed axleback on a g37.

It sounds alright...Much better then stock exhaust with nice looking cans. However quality I cannot attest for.

The better option is aam short tails. Quality muffler deletes, with beautiful tips. Great sound.

Aam short tails buddy. They're sweet!

AAM short tails are overpriced IMO, a muffler shop would make the same for $100

Washer mod is 90% as effective, OP, do that until you can afford a quality CBE

Many people on here with TS exhausts. Metal is metal guys!!!! You can't make 304SS any other way than 304SS. It's just freaking pipe. FI uses Vibrant 304SS resonators that are also probably made in China like everyone else's material. If people say TS resonators have blown out then buy a TS exhaust that has none and add a Vibrant and you're hundreds and hundreds less than these so called amazing top brands you speak of. If fitment is an issue or if a weld breaks down the road, how in the hell do you guys have performace cars and don't know about 20 people who tig weld??!! Hell its an exhaust under the damn car. Who cares what it looks like?! Go spend $5 on a stainless steel 2lbs roll of mig wire at any store, give it to a muffler shop for free and have them install it in their mig welder and weld that bitch rock solid. This isn't brain surgery, I'd know, I see surgery all day long. Even if a shop doesn't have a mandral bender, a slight normal bend or adjustment in a pipe will not change the overall diameter in that section much to even lose 0.01hp. Since most exhausts are made in China or Taiwan at least they use 304SS and I can verify that. Magnaflow uses 409SS in almost everything which will rust out in about 10 years of harsh winters like Ohio. Who here has a car longer than 10 years and needs to worry about that?? But again the eBay stuff isn't 409SS, its 304SS which will out last the car.

PS, TS sells on eBay along with their store in Texas. It only helps sales and doesn't mean its junk.

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Dont listen to all the brand whores here. You are out of your mind if you spend 1k+ on an exhaust....its just metal piping, like he said. I went with TS with the resonator and its great. No drone, nice sound on throttle, quiet off. Fits was spot on. (minus adding washer to center bracket.)
If an axelback makes you happy go for it.

Some of us prefer high quality parts. My car is my daily driver. It has to function properly. Buy crap and you get crap results. Buy quality and you get quality results. Add in things like warranties and it becomes an even better deal.

How can you have a sports car and not put quality parts on it? Oh and not everybody knows people who weld.

SA has a point, you can't put low quality parts on cars and expect to get much out of them. I'm not saying price will depict the quality on a part. Just that if you put an exhaust part that will probably give out if you scrape and what not it'll suck to have spent that much money for nothing. No disrespect to top speed but I've seen the fitment for their exhausts and the tips stick out tremendously and that was kinda a deal breaker for me. I ended up going with the ark dts exhaust. I'm hoping to install it tomorrow. The exhaust was over 1k but hey it's well worth it. Good quality exhaust, has warranty, awesome welds, they clean the welds within the pipes to ensure good air flow, and not to mention the sound. Just make sure you make the right decision bud. It sucks to buy something for $300-$400 then later down the road think "I want something better but I already wasted $300-$400". Good luck :tup:

So if I send you two pipes of 304SS you can tell me which ones crap? How? I've seen many top brand exhausts. NONE!! of them stand up to my expectations but maybe FI since they sand the inside pipe down to flow match. But guess what?? I have a sander :tup: also Perrin Performance doesn't need to sand down the inside to flow match because their flanges start out CNC'd to be OD then 3/4 down is bored out to be ID. No need to sand because they are smart enough to do it right from the get go.

And like I said, FI use Vibrant resonators and probably similar mufflers. Vibrant for all I know is made in China or Taiwan. If they're not and US made (which i really dont care who makes stuff as long as its made well) ill spend the $128 I did on two 18"s and slap them puppies on.

You realize the tips stick out because they don't want the bumper to turn black/yellow right? Ever had a white car with flush or near flush mounted tips? Lol have fun cleaning. It sucks *** cause it will always stain slight yellow. O and you must polish it off. Soap and water don't touch the stains.

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Freshly washed car!

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20-30min of rubbing and rubbing.

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It'd be $100 in materials alone+ gas for the welder+ an hourly rate for the fabricator making it+ some markup to make it worth it to the shop. I have to disagree sorry.

Only know because I made my own.

You got ripped off, lol, sorry

It's $5-10 pipe, $20 flanges (or just cut them off the muffler), time to weld/bend $70~.

I only know because I did this for a different car. Full straight pipes for my car was quoted at $200-300 for the 370

^^ I was quoted $250 for staight pipe-ing from the cats back. DEpointfive0 knows whats up.

You can easily get custom piping that looks similar to the short tails for less then $100. then the cost of nice tips.. ($50 or so)

I got the short tails so i didn't have to do any custom work. Sure they are overpriced. Everyone knows that. But they are simple bolt ons that ANYone can install with proper use of a wrench.

With that in mind, in the end its all personal preference.

Lol I guess I ripped myself off then. And im defending vendor prices not talking about what I paid.lol You forgot to add tips which if I recall AAM use's TI which is a little pricey. Some shops just know what their time and effort is worth, some don't. Simple as that.

304SS=$30
Tips=$100-$150
Time=$40/hr x 2 hours
Gas=$20?hard to price but a tank here is about $100 but youre only using a small portion of that.
Total:$240

That's before profit margins so really $3-400 isn't that bad.

^sorry!

But you still saved, and you helped out a local company! Always a good thing IMO :tup:

Haha its all good. I wasn't really too clear up above. I do like supporting my local shops. :tup:

Thats great for you that you can do that. Not everybody ( very very few actually ) have those capabilites and skills needed to perform that type of work. You need to quit focusing on what you can do and realise that the majority of people cannot do those things and therefore we choose to pay for quality. I could spout off a ton of stuff about what I do and have done as far as jobs in the AF go and stump 99.9% of people and they could do the same to me. The same applies to vehicles and who has the necessary skills and experience to perform that type of work.

I wasn't meaning to come across as it would be just me. As stated above by you guys a muffler shop can slap those puppies on for $20-40 for 30min of work. Back in the day I've had it done before. Takes an hour or so to bend and weld. It's not hard and not as expensive as a companies CBE is all. You can save easy 2/3rds the cost. Or spend about the same on eBay and maybe no more than $50 if something needs adjusted in the fitment or a weld reinforced. In the end the Chinese 304SS quality will be the same as anyone else's 304SS but will be hundreds of dollars less which to me doesn't make the eBay stuff junk is all.

I got ya bud. :tup: Just came off wrong with the brand bashing on the first page of the thread. Info is great! I use this site a ton. Just brand bashing isn't cool.

Well I don't know what to call it then. If someone doesn't know the 3 different ways a pipe can be welded to a flange, I think the lesser ways need called out and its a crapy way to do something in my opinion. I'm only trying to get my info out there so people make the best choice. I mean back in the day we used muzzle loaders. Now we have center fire cartridges. Both will kill you, ones just a better way of doing it. If I bash or call someone out on doing it old school then we all win if they change their design :ughdance:

haha ok so I'll go ahead and throw in my $.02 about our AAM short tails since this topic comes up pretty much everytime they're mentioned. Without making it sound like a sales pitch this was the premise behind why we designed them.

• When the Z first came out, only big dogs designed and sold systems, much of these were your JDM brands, easily $1k+. Short tails = sound of a catback without the price tag. BUT now with many other competitors in the game, there are full catbacks you can buy for the price of our short tails, the decision is yours. I won't make any comments on quality, fitment, customer support, etc. Your car, your money, your mods
• Simple bolt-on; I'm not sure if it gets any easier, but another perk is being able to do this at home, in your own garage. If you can jack up your car and turn a wrench, chances are you can put this on with confidence
• Quality material, precision TIG weld, mandrel bent.. take it to an exhaust shop, you may or may not get all the following. Does it matter? Well I'm sure to some it does, to some saving a few bucks is more important, and that's fine
• It's a muffler delete, there are no secrets behind our system, If you get it done at a muffler shop, I assure you it will sound VERY similar, if not identical.

So when you value the short tails, it may seem over priced for a couple pipes with tips, but at the end of the day you can rest assure it's a quality piece, no headaches on this or that. Can you save money by doing it at a muffler shop? YES. Will it sound similar if not the same? YES. Will it be up to par in quality? MAYBE. Does quality matter? That's up to your "modding mentality"!