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LiquidCrewZ 03-10-2013 07:02 PM

Nismo exhaust install possibly went wrong. Fitment issues from NismotoBase?
 
So I bought a low mile used Nismo exhaust from a forum member on here and nothing seems to be modified from factory. Awesome exhaust for the money IMOP. Seems to wake the car up a little. Or it could just be wishful thinking. So I paid a local shop around Columbus to swap my stock exhaust for the Nismo one that I purchased.

Everything seemed great until after a week or so, then I started to notice that one of the sides of the exhaust seems to stick out a 1/2 inch more then the other side of the exhaust. After I had the exhaust installed, one of the shop managers said everything mounted up perfect except one side, but it shouldn't effect anything.

I took a few pictures but is this normal for the factory Nismo exhaust to not perfectly fit on the base model cars? I didn't read anything about the Nismo exhaust tips extending more then one another.

Maybe I'm making to big of a deal out of things but I would like the exhaust to fit as close to factory as possible and it's starting to bug the **** out of me. I did notice (pictures below) on the driver side exhaust section, one of the exhaust peg bracket is just hanging not connected to anything. What do you think?

http://imageshack.us/a/img707/9739/img0881ry.th.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img713/3590/img0880tk.th.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/6742/img0874xk.th.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img221/831/img0873ef.th.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img802/9629/img0870lr.th.jpg

MarkGideon 03-10-2013 07:10 PM

Order this exhaust "insulator" from Amazon.

Walker Exhaust 35259 Hardware-Insulator : Amazon.com : Automotive

Install it where the Nismo muffler hanger is just hanging. That should fix it. I installed a used Nismo exhaust on my base a few weeks ago. Knew about the difference ahead of time so I had this ready. Used the metal insert and bolt from the base insulator, so if the shop trashed it, you will need to source those. Since this one is about twice as long as the shorter one from the base muffler, it worked out perfect.

tjlazer 03-10-2013 10:38 PM

I think it's normal for it to stick out a little on one side, mine does that too. I have a 2009.

jbsonit4u2 03-11-2013 06:22 AM

Did the same fix on my
ZR, that will do it.

LiquidCrewZ 03-11-2013 10:34 AM

I had no idea or I would have had that ready to go. I'll have to look at the old exhaust to try and find the old fittings your referring to. I'm pretty sure the shop left them on. Thanks for the info.

Sh0velMan 03-11-2013 10:48 AM

I didn't have any fitment issues as far as the tips were concerned. They fit perfect.

Two of the hanger mounting points were not usable, the product linked above would make at least one of those usable again. Not sure on the passenger side one though.

Either way, I ran without the two forward mounts (Muffler has 4 total, two front, two rear, the front ones didn't fit on mine) the entire time I had the system and never saw any signs of stress or otherwise.

That tip fitment is concerning though. Mine definitely didn't look like that.

MarkGideon 03-11-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2206873)
Either way, I ran without the two forward mounts (Muffler has 4 total, two front, two rear, the front ones didn't fit on mine) the entire time I had the system and never saw any signs of stress or otherwise.

That tip fitment is concerning though. Mine definitely didn't look like that.

Interesting. The Nismo muffler I installed only had three hangers--the two on either side toward the rear of the car, and one on the front driver's side. The two rear were the same as the base stock exhaust so no modifications were necessary. The front driver's side muffler hanger was the only different mounting point between the base exhaust and the Nismo exhaust.

There are a few other posts about the different driver's side muffler mount. Seems there is a metal plate that mounts onto the Nismo frame to drop the mounting point for the bolt through the insulator. Seems I read somewhere here that the cost of said adapter plate was prohibitively expensive, thus my use of a $7 chunk of rubber.

Sh0velMan 03-11-2013 11:11 AM

Yeah, your method is plenty good enough if you just "have" to have it there haha.

Might be it just had the one, I thought it had another on the other side too, bad memory I guess.

I ran both with a hanger and without at that position and the exhaust didn't fit any different without it. I feel very comfortable with just telling people to leave it off, it really isn't needed.

tower74 03-12-2013 02:38 PM

I threw on the Nismo exhaust on my old Z and had zero issues. It fit like it was stock.

LiquidCrewZ 03-30-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkGideon (Post 2206068)
Order this exhaust "insulator" from Amazon.

Walker Exhaust 35259 Hardware-Insulator : Amazon.com : Automotive

Install it where the Nismo muffler hanger is just hanging. That should fix it. I installed a used Nismo exhaust on my base a few weeks ago. Knew about the difference ahead of time so I had this ready. Used the metal insert and bolt from the base insulator, so if the shop trashed it, you will need to source those. Since this one is about twice as long as the shorter one from the base muffler, it worked out perfect.

So I finally got around to ordering that insulator and did notice their was no place to hang the insulator. I did see my old exhaust still had the factory rubber connector but I didn't see any removable bolts. It has a place to insert a specific bolt in the hole but I'm not sure which one. I guess I could use one of the bolt nuts from the factory exhaust and put up one from the hardware store. Any suggestions on what bolt? Just screw the bolt on or press on?

Also does anyone else have rust looking spots on the inside of the exhaust, is that normal?

MarkGideon 03-30-2013 11:08 AM

I used the same bolt and sleeve from my stock base exhaust n the new insulator, installed in the original bolt hole.

7speed 03-30-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2206931)
Yeah, your method is plenty good enough if you just "have" to have it there haha.

Might be it just had the one, I thought it had another on the other side too, bad memory I guess.

I ran both with a hanger and without at that position and the exhaust didn't fit any different without it. I feel very comfortable with just telling people to leave it off, it really isn't needed.

Yup no issues here

TVPostSound 03-30-2013 04:55 PM

There are 3 for a reason.

The two rears, are there to hang the muffler.
The one on the forward drivers side can be used to adjust the yaw, as the mid-pipes support it.
The 1 hanger on the chassis can be bent slightly, as can the "pin" on the muffler.
Having that one missing would result in the OP's issue.


If there were four, the muffler would be locked in a fixed position.

Rusty 04-02-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidCrewZ (Post 2206053)
So I bought a low mile used Nismo exhaust from a forum member on here and nothing seems to be modified from factory. Awesome exhaust for the money IMOP. Seems to wake the car up a little. Or it could just be wishful thinking. So I paid a local shop around Columbus to swap my stock exhaust for the Nismo one that I purchased.

Everything seemed great until after a week or so, then I started to notice that one of the sides of the exhaust seems to stick out a 1/2 inch more then the other side of the exhaust. After I had the exhaust installed, one of the shop managers said everything mounted up perfect except one side, but it shouldn't effect anything.

I took a few pictures but is this normal for the factory Nismo exhaust to not perfectly fit on the base model cars? I didn't read anything about the Nismo exhaust tips extending more then one another.

Maybe I'm making to big of a deal out of things but I would like the exhaust to fit as close to factory as possible and it's starting to bug the **** out of me. I did notice (pictures below) on the driver side exhaust section, one of the exhaust peg bracket is just hanging not connected to anything. What do you think?

Hey, you got a PM. :tiphat:
That hanger is still on my Nismo. If you want. I'll take it off and send it to you. :tiphat:

Rusty 04-03-2013 07:58 PM

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I got the hanger off if you still want Shawn. :tiphat:

LiquidCrewZ 04-07-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2249882)
I got the hanger off if you still want Shawn. :tiphat:

Got it and installed yesterday. Very easy and fit perfectly. Now the exhaust doesn't twist after driving. Thanks again!!!

Mr_Cann 08-09-2013 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2206931)
Yeah, your method is plenty good enough if you just "have" to have it there haha.

Might be it just had the one, I thought it had another on the other side too, bad memory I guess.

I ran both with a hanger and without at that position and the exhaust didn't fit any different without it. I feel very comfortable with just telling people to leave it off, it really isn't needed.


hmm I just got my nismo exhaust today and the guy at the body shop told me that it should be fine without it cause it was still pretty sturdy without it...wondering if I should do something about it or just leave it as is

7speed 08-09-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Cann (Post 2439824)
hmm I just got my nismo exhaust today and the guy at the body shop told me that it should be fine without it cause it was still pretty sturdy without it...wondering if I should do something about it or just leave it as is

Fine as is. Nismo exhaust on my base for 7 months .... No issues.

Mr_Cann 08-09-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7speed (Post 2439994)
Fine as is. Nismo exhaust on my base for 7 months .... No issues.

Sweet thanks for the heads up!!

synolimit 08-09-2013 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidCrewZ (Post 2206053)
So I bought a low mile used Nismo exhaust from a forum member on here and nothing seems to be modified from factory. Awesome exhaust for the money IMOP. Seems to wake the car up a little. Or it could just be wishful thinking. So I paid a local shop around Columbus to swap my stock exhaust for the Nismo one that I purchased.

Everything seemed great until after a week or so, then I started to notice that one of the sides of the exhaust seems to stick out a 1/2 inch more then the other side of the exhaust. After I had the exhaust installed, one of the shop managers said everything mounted up perfect except one side, but it shouldn't effect anything.

I took a few pictures but is this normal for the factory Nismo exhaust to not perfectly fit on the base model cars? I didn't read anything about the Nismo exhaust tips extending more then one another.

Maybe I'm making to big of a deal out of things but I would like the exhaust to fit as close to factory as possible and it's starting to bug the **** out of me. I did notice (pictures below) on the driver side exhaust section, one of the exhaust peg bracket is just hanging not connected to anything. What do you think?

http://imageshack.us/a/img707/9739/img0881ry.th.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img713/3590/img0880tk.th.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/6742/img0874xk.th.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img221/831/img0873ef.th.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img802/9629/img0870lr.th.jpg

Moving to Westerville in 4 days.

As for CBE that's weird with it being factory. U always have to install it though with all bolts lose then go little by little. I added 18" resonators to my CBE that I already had to modify because it didn't fit and was off like yours. So I had to spend more time fixing that. **** just happens I guess. As for the hanger, the 13's don't come with one in that location.

6spd 08-09-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2440097)
As for the hanger, the 13's don't come with one in that location.

O_o thats not true? I just installed an exhaust today on a '13 and that hanger was there.

synolimit 08-09-2013 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 2440109)
O_o thats not true? I just installed an exhaust today on a '13 and that hanger was there.

Then you're the only one because several others don't have one either. Show me your OEM exhaust you took off, because I sure as hell don't have a place where the mount would even go to. 13's only have 4 mounting locations unlike older years and the nismo exhaust that have 5.

6spd 08-10-2013 07:42 AM

You mean you dont have the metal hanger bracket on the muffler, or you dont have the rubber bushing that bolts to the car?

Bullit79 08-11-2013 02:10 PM

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Ok I just picked up a Nismo exhaust, so let me get this straight. The base models are missing a mounting bracket that the front muffler rubber hanger is supposed to connect to, part # 20794 in the diagram below.

So in lieu of the the bracket (which a parts site has listed for $200) I can use that $6 extra long rubber hanger ("insulator" as they call it) from amazon.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1376247867

Sh0velMan 08-11-2013 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullit79 (Post 2441716)
Ok I just picked up a Nismo exhaust, so let me get this straight. The base models are missing a mounting bracket that the front muffler rubber hanger is supposed to connect to, part # 20794 in the diagram below.

So in lieu of the the bracket (which a parts site has listed for $200) I can use that $6 extra long rubber hanger ("insulator" as they call it) from amazon.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1376247867

I just didn't bother attaching it there.

Didn't cause any issues.

Bullit79 09-30-2013 08:23 AM

Well I just did the Nismo CBE install yesterday and I had the same issue. The driver side tip stuck out about 1/2" further and was about 1/4" lower than the passenger tip. I lowered the passenger side bracket using washers and that seemed to help. The tips hang level, but the driver's side still sticks out about 1/4" more. Not noticeable to the casual observer, but the OCD side of me can't stop thinking about it!

I'll order that longer exhaust hanger from amazon and see if that helps any.

Bullit79 10-08-2013 07:23 AM

Installed the longer exhaust hanger this weekend, but didn't help much. I still had to use washers on the passenger side bracket to get them to hang level and the driver side tip still sticks out about a 1/4"-1/2".

This may be a stupid question, but is it possible to install the H-pipe upside down? It looked symmetrical to me.


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