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W.O.W. 370Z 07-10-2012 09:58 AM

Finally a vendor that shows progression and evidence of success for a product being sold on this forum. Finally a vendor not just selling replicas with just renderings and no actual proof of a product. Akuma has kept lines of communication open and actually showed R&D process. No secret about their products. A breathe of fresh for this forum if you ask me.

Kudos to Akuma.

But yet some are still upset? :shakes head:

'10Anamoly 07-10-2012 10:30 AM

Not upset, just need to see direct comparison results, which is a critical piece for new products especially when there are lots of competitors. :tup: $500 is not chump change so we want to know there is a power gain over Stillen before buying.

Kevin@AkumaMS 07-10-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1814349)
Finally a vendor that shows progression and evidence of success for a product being sold on this forum. Finally a vendor not just selling replicas with just renderings and no actual proof of a product. Akuma has kept lines of communication open and actually showed R&D process. No secret about their products. A breathe of fresh for this forum if you ask me.

Kudos to Akuma.

But yet some are still upset? :shakes head:

Thank you for your recognition, we try to keep our ideas and designs as open as possible for consumers to give there insight and ideas as well. We are here to make a great product for you guys that is just as good as a big time manufacturer but with better customer service and pricing and it is nice too see some people recognize that so to you guys thanks! :tup:

As far as comparisons go the dyno comparison with stock intakes verse our intake is the best comparison we have with as little mods on the car as possible for now. We are still open for anyone with just intakes to come in and do a couple FREE pulls.

They are certainly comparable if not better than almost all intakes out there. They were built and designed by John himself who is a self taught genius and knows how to engineer just about anything

You can speek with anyone who has our GT-R intakes, EVO X Intakes/Intercooler Piping or any of our custom or other retail products and they can speak about them better than anyone else. Our products are built with performance as the soul purpose.

Rooskey 07-10-2012 11:03 PM

What is so sad to hear is that there is a company out there that is trying to manufacture a product for our vehicles and support our community and the only thing they get in return is a bunch a **** from the community that they are trying to support.

370Z Purist 07-11-2012 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by '10Anamoly (Post 1814401)
Not upset, just need to see direct comparison results, which is a critical piece for new products especially when there are lots of competitors. :tup: $500 is not chump change so we want to know there is a power gain over Stillen before buying.

I'm sure the gains are comparable, if different, due to intake velocity differences. Even if this was exactly the same as the Stillen intakes, I'd buy this because Stillen can stand to lose a sale more so, and so I can support a smaller shop.

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1815548)
What is so sad to hear is that there is a company out there that is trying to manufacture a product for our vehicles and support our community and the only thing they get in return is a bunch a **** from the community that they are trying to support.

I don't think we're giving them ****, although I forgot they're still offering free dyno pulls for comparison. I'm more surprised no one wants to use the opportunity for FREE pulls. Seriously.

MyZ4U2C 07-11-2012 01:10 AM

I was excited to see where this was going from the beginning with the gains and group buy, but overall this is not much of a deal to me. Stillen is basically the same cost and Takeda has one of similar design of Stillen for less... I also don't really follow the logic of support the small guy and pay more or the same theory... I buy the best deal of the best product period... I think people wanting to see results before throwing half a G at this is fair. One comparison isn't solid enough proof of expected gains. Yes most of us see that they are offering a free pull...well then we might have a better idea, but criticizing people for asking dyno numbers before shelling out $500 sounds reasonable to me....

'10Anamoly 07-11-2012 07:23 AM

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I think people wanting to see results before throwing half a G at this is fair. One comparison isn't solid enough proof of expected gains.
Bingo, and its the type of comparison that we are asking for. Again, could Akuma send a pair out to someone to do a comparison on since they cant get someone in house? I offered this to them to do a direct Stillen to Akuma 2.75" intake review but never heard back.

Sh0velMan 07-11-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by '10Anamoly (Post 1815767)
Bingo, and its the type of comparison that we are asking for. Again, could Akuma send a pair out to someone to do a comparison on since they cant get someone in house? I offered this to them to do a direct Stillen to Akuma 2.75" intake review but never heard back.

I have to admit this is a little surprising. We were working on an arrangement for me to do a comparison vs the NISMO R-Tune intakes as well, but after weeks of communication back and forth and a couple lengthy conversations with John @ Akuma, I got a message the other day saying I could purchase a set for $489 + shipping... The whole idea was to test them for results for the community without having to lay out $500+ of my own money, I guess maybe the price of components and labor just got to be too dear for them to afford to send out sets for testing purposes... Happens sometimes when a company is small. There may also be a communication disconnect between John and his staff, he's a super busy guy and may not have had the time to communicate all of the arrangements he had in mind to his staff.

Anyhow, I am sure we'll get some results soon from folks who have bought these intakes and that they'll be better than the Stillen units. Just have some patience guys. :) Myself, I'll be engineering my own solution. Something in carbon. :)

'10Anamoly 07-11-2012 08:54 AM

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We were working on an arrangement for me to do a comparison vs the NISMO R-Tune intakes as well, but after weeks of communication back and forth and a couple lengthy conversations with John @ Akuma, I got a message the other day saying I could purchase a set for $489 + shipping.
I too was discussing a similar comparison for them for a discounted price on the intakes, since I have to pay for Dyno and Retune time but never heard back after a conversation or two. I have a customized Stillen intake setup. Shrug?

SS_Firehawk 07-11-2012 10:38 AM

I can't understand how a difference of a couple whp difference is so damn important. This is absolutely petty. People on here are acting like a comparison to Stillen is the only metric. Grow up. It's only tubes and a filter. It's placed and routed logically, so any gains or losses will almost certainly be within a margin of error. They supplied results with a CBE, which most of you ha e or plan to install amyways. If its so important, research the forums for dyno results on the Stillen intake with A CBE.

slynx 07-11-2012 04:34 PM

Im pretty sure everyone's criticisms stem from the fact that akuma's intakes had built so much expectation that there would be a matched competitor to the stillen intakes at what people thought would be a lower price point.
I feel the disappointment is mainly because akuma isn't as big of a name as stillen and the big name price wasnt included in the expectations.

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Rooskey 07-12-2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1816100)
I can't understand how a difference of a couple whp difference is so damn important. This is absolutely petty.

This is because 90% of the people on this forum are dyno queens, and never come across a real race or track day. You Never know when that three more horsepower will make a differance, lol... I have nothing bad to say about stillen but I guarantee that mostly everyone that has there intake is because of word of mouth and not experience with other designs.

Kevin@AkumaMS 07-13-2012 09:06 AM

PM or give us a call at 732-326-0090 if you are interested in getting a set or have any questions or concerns as i can see many of you do. Thanks!

One_Quick_Z 07-13-2012 10:49 AM

Couldnt agree more Rooskey.







DAN

Alchemy 07-13-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1817384)
This is because 90% of the people on this forum are dyno queens, and never come across a real race or track day. You Never know when that three more horsepower will make a differance, lol... I have nothing bad to say about stillen but I guarantee that mostly everyone that has there intake is because of word of mouth and not experience with other designs.

For the same price why wouldnt you go with the one that makes more power even if it is only 2 or 3 hp. Most people have the Stillens because they have PROVED that they are the best on the market.


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