Anyone they feel, i think they were copying Mugen at one point.

They're not original designs, unless they changed anything in very recent times, DC sports also comes to mind.

This thread sounds like the Stillen hate thread.

Lol, it does... I was just trying to get some real reasoning, because I think their exhaust looks pretty legit...

I think I might be closing this thread down because it's just one person bashing another... All I wanted to say it that it looks like a high quality piece... And SOUND is NOT a good reason to say an exhaust is bad, that depends SOLELY on the person who buys it and installs it on their own cat...

ibtl