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Rockcrawler 02-10-2012 11:20 AM

Yes I've searched and surfed, Berk CBE vs. Gemini???
 
Yes I've searched, I've listend to countless you tube vids. I know i like the Gemini. The berk vids mostly are CBE AND something else, vs. just CBE.

I did hear two for the CBE alone but they did not sound the same which made me question if the CBE was really alone and which of the two was accurate.

Why not just buy the Gemini? I might, but want to give the Berk a fair shot (words sound promising) and I know where there is a decent used one.

I know lots of you like something else. I want to hear it when I stomp, not so much on the highway, deeper idle is welcome. no drone, no rasp, no rice. Not looking for number gains, just melodius engine noise:) I like the stockers on my G35 coupe if that helps. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Edit, extra question.... is there a cheaper way to get there (bolt on rather than fab) IE, do any of the HFC's deliver a softer sound. I listened to quite a few of those too when surfing vids but they all seemed raspy/tinny.

NV370z 02-10-2012 09:00 PM

It sounds like the Gemini is just what you are looking for. Not obnoxious, fairly quiet up to 3-3.5 rpms, after that you know its there and hardly noticeable on the highway. The car interior noise is loud enough, no need to make it worse. Price point is just about half of most other CBE's (pm jomer at fbnissan), without sacrificing quality and you will have it in a week. Just my 2 cents

r1eater 02-10-2012 09:33 PM

I was in the same position as you just this week. I finally pulled the trigger on the Berk but I was torn between the Gemini and the Berk. I ordered it from FBNISSAN for an amazing price. I should have it here next week and will have it put on the same day or the next.

henry0844 02-10-2012 10:33 PM

I got just the berk with no hfc. I love the sound this exhaust produces, mellow, no rasp, burbly under light throttle, no drone at all on the highway. the sound between 3-4k Rpms is music to my ears, and apparently to other people too because I get alot of compliments on how my car sounds. you really should hear it in person, it's got a nice deep vq tone.

r1eater 02-11-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by henry0844 (Post 1537626)
I got just the berk with no hfc. I love the sound this exhaust produces, mellow, no rasp, burbly under light throttle, no drone at all on the highway. the sound between 3-4k Rpms is music to my ears, and apparently to other people too because I get alot of compliments on how my car sounds. you really should hear it in person, it's got a nice deep vq tone.

can't wait to get mine on.

mults 02-11-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NV370z (Post 1537491)
It sounds like the Gemini is just what you are looking for. Not obnoxious, fairly quiet up to 3-3.5 rpms, after that you know its there and hardly noticeable on the highway. The car interior noise is loud enough, no need to make it worse. Price point is just about half of most other CBE's (pm jomer at fbnissan), without sacrificing quality and you will have it in a week. Just my 2 cents

I was in the same boat, but I have finally decided to get the Gemini CBE, the CNT HFC and K&N filters from FBNISSAN as they have the best price. I listened to so many exhausts that I had to stop and choose one. To me, the Berks and Geminis are close, but the Geminis are so much more affordable, it allows me to get the HFC and the K&N. I am going to pull the plug very soon, but I am bummed because I may not be able to put them on for a few months (Cleveland winters).

Unique_Z 02-12-2012 10:56 AM

if you're more of a loud sound person, get the berks. i have the gemini my self and i'm not happy with it. coming from a muffler delete exhaust (AAM) the invidia sounds too quiet for my liking

370Zsteve 02-12-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by henry0844 (Post 1537626)
I got just the berk with no hfc. I love the sound this exhaust produces, mellow, no rasp, burbly under light throttle, no drone at all on the highway. the sound between 3-4k Rpms is music to my ears, and apparently to other people too because I get alot of compliments on how my car sounds. you really should hear it in person, it's got a nice deep vq tone.

I completely agree. I ran the Berk with no HFC for quite awhile and the sound was very nice, mellow up to 3.5K and all hell breaks loose when you nail it. Great stealth sound when the PoPo are next to you at a stoplight. :tup:

Rockcrawler 02-16-2012 05:16 PM

thanks guys, will probably pull the trigger soon.

LakeShow 02-17-2012 01:31 AM

What did you decide on Berks or Gemini?

r1eater 02-17-2012 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1548794)
What did you decide on Berks or Gemini?

I decided Berks, it got here today goes on in the morning. :driving:

LakeShow 02-17-2012 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by r1eater (Post 1548806)
I decided Berks, it got here today goes on in the morning. :driving:

Good stuff mate. Get some pics up. Would like to see how they come cause I'm thinking of ordering from FBNissan myself for same exhaust.

ahhlun 02-17-2012 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockcrawler (Post 1536633)
I want to hear it when I stomp, not so much on the highway, deeper idle is welcome. no drone, no rasp, no rice.

I am on same boat with you..

Exhaust is my only planned mod for some nicer sound, and i dont care too much about performance. I take 2ish hours trip (60-80mph) weekly so hardway drone is bad.

I am not sure I like the titanium tips of Invidia and the BERK seems expensive.

have you considered Fast Intention which everyone talks about...
or just the simple AAM Short Tail ( which I think would be too loud for us ?)

Rockcrawler 02-17-2012 08:23 AM

As far as I know the FI and AAM are louder options. I listened to all the vids i could find last night and decided on Invidia.... subjective, but the tone was better to me. Chocolate or peanut butter? right?:)

Rockcrawler 02-17-2012 01:22 PM

pulled the trigger on a Gemini, FBNissan earned my biz

Rockcrawler 02-17-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ahhlun (Post 1548958)
I am on same boat with you..

Exhaust is my only planned mod for some nicer sound, and i dont care too much about performance. I take 2ish hours trip (60-80mph) weekly so hardway drone is bad.

I am not sure I like the titanium tips of Invidia and the BERK seems expensive.

have you considered Fast Intention which everyone talks about...
or just the simple AAM Short Tail ( which I think would be too loud for us ?)

you can get either tip with the Invidia btw....

r1eater 02-17-2012 03:07 PM

Got the Berk installed today. I think its pretty much perfect and is exactly what I was looking for. Something that was a tad louder under acceleration but without drone under normal cruising. The Berk CBE is exactly that, no drone, no rasp almost stock like sound and look but when you get on the gas its like an exotic music coming from the engine. This is what I think the Z should have come like from the factory.

I bought mine from FBNissan, I will definately be doing business with them again. ALready thinking of adding some HFC's and other bits.

r1eater 02-17-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahhlun (Post 1548958)
I am on same boat with you..

Exhaust is my only planned mod for some nicer sound, and i dont care too much about performance. I take 2ish hours trip (60-80mph) weekly so hardway drone is bad.

I am not sure I like the titanium tips of Invidia and the BERK seems expensive.

have you considered Fast Intention which everyone talks about...
or just the simple AAM Short Tail ( which I think would be too loud for us ?)

Berk is what you are looking for FI is too lound for what we want.

LakeShow 02-17-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r1eater (Post 1550358)
Got the Berk installed today. I think its pretty much perfect and is exactly what I was looking for. Something that was a tad louder under acceleration but without drone under normal cruising. The Berk CBE is exactly that, no drone, no rasp almost stock like sound and look but when you get on the gas its like an exotic music coming from the engine. This is what I think the Z should have come like from the factory.

I bought mine from FBNissan, I will definately be doing business with them again. ALready thinking of adding some HFC's and other bits.

Thats what I am looking for also but I think for me the Berk HFC in addition to the CBE would be an even better sound. I am looking for a little noise at cruising RPMs from outside like when you hear a G35/37 drive by. I also heard the Berk has fitment issues with one side of the exhaust is sitting lower than another side. Do you have any pics or videos?

r1eater 02-17-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1550772)
Thats what I am looking for also but I think for me the Berk HFC in addition to the CBE would be an even better sound. I am looking for a little noise at cruising RPMs from outside like when you hear a G35/37 drive by. I also heard the Berk has fitment issues with one side of the exhaust is sitting lower than another side. Do you have any pics or videos?

I'll take a closer look but if thats the case a small shot from my rubber mallet should fix that. They do stick out further than stock but other than that I didnt notice anything at first glance. I'll look at it tomorrow in the daylight and report back.

I'm with you I think I am gettting the berk HFC's next.

henry0844 02-18-2012 02:46 PM

the berk sits level. at one point there was a hanger that was too short and would cause the mount to slip off. it's been fixed and there is no more issue with that. should fit just fine. just get it, u know u want it;)

Rockcrawler 03-19-2012 08:20 AM

just wanted to follow that I installed yesterday, smooth and ez. sound is exactly what I wanted WHEN I want it.

KeVoH 03-19-2012 02:19 PM

I think that i'll be joining the Berks CBE club, can anyone point me where to order, FBNISSAN??

Thanks

tomnavone 03-19-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KeVoH (Post 1608327)
I think that i'll be joining the Berks CBE club, can anyone point me where to order, FBNISSAN??

Thanks

I ordered my berk exhaust from fbnissan a few weeks ago. Super fast shipping and hands down lowest price.:tup:

KeVoH 03-19-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tomnavone (Post 1608361)
I ordered my berk exhaust from fbnissan a few weeks ago. Super fast shipping and hands down lowest price.:tup:

Can you link me ^_^ ?

LakeShow 03-19-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KeVoH (Post 1608551)
Can you link me ^_^ ?

http://www.the370z.com/exhaust-intak...rice-ever.html

Zed-Hed 03-19-2012 04:51 PM

Has anyone dynoed the Berk?

KeVoH 03-20-2012 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1608599)

Thanks Alot! Rep+!


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