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john370z 05-20-2009 02:19 PM

HFC passing emissions???
 
Anyone know if Berk HFC will pass emissions is states other than CA?
Thanks
john

semtex 05-20-2009 03:15 PM

I see no reason why it won't. In GA, they just hook up a cable to your OBDII port and check to see if you've had any recent CELs. As long as you haven't, you pass. It's that simple. No visual check, no sniffer. Heck, my 350Z passed and I was running test pipes! I think a lot of other states are the same way.

initialgemini 05-20-2009 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john370z (Post 75615)
Anyone know if Berk HFC will pass emissions is states other than CA?
Thanks
john


If they'll pass in CA, they'll pass anywhere. We have the strictest emissions laws around.

ChrisSlicks 05-20-2009 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by initialgemini (Post 75654)
If they'll pass in CA, they'll pass anywhere. We have the strictest emissions laws around.

Even if it passed the sniff test it would fail the visual inspection in CA. Replacement exhaust parts have to be CARB approved or CARB exempt.

Everywhere else it shouldn't be a problem as long as the CO and other output gasses are within the guideline limits for the car.

shabarivas 05-20-2009 04:24 PM

depends on the smogger... some are cool and dont really check under your car :)

Junior370z 05-20-2009 05:36 PM

Other than visual, will HFC's pass in CA? I want to get some berk HFC's but I'm afraid the cel might come on. Also will the sniffer detect the cats? Thanks.

tru_Asiatik 05-20-2009 11:21 PM

i dont get why most are worried passing in CA its a new car you dont have to worry about smog checks for another 6 yrs
i got mine ill worry abot smogs on my cars 5 yr bday lol

RDGR12 05-21-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junior370z (Post 75700)
Other than visual, will HFC's pass in CA? I want to get some berk HFC's but I'm afraid the cel might come on. Also will the sniffer detect the cats? Thanks.


It will pass the sniffer, but not visual inspection. But as mentioned, you have about 5-6 years before that even happens.

CBRich 05-22-2009 09:26 AM

SC no inspection at all. They'll definitely pass here.

initialgemini 05-22-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RDGR12 (Post 76165)
It will pass the sniffer, but not visual inspection. But as mentioned, you have about 5-6 years before that even happens.

Actually, if they pass the sniffer, you would need the appropriate documentation of the install of the new cat. You would have to show that your factory catalytic converter failed and these are the replacements. It also depends on what kind of smog check you get on your vehicle. Sometimes its just a sniffer test, another time it maybe a visual plus sniffer (which are usually done in state approved facilities).

You shouldn't get much heat from a high flow catalytic converter. In essence there is still a part there that is doing the job. If you had a straight pipe, then you'd be running into problems.

If you're really paranoid, take your car to state ref facility and get your setup tested. If you show up on your own to make sure your car is street legal, they provide you with the documentation that you passed specific test (i.e. exhaust decibel readings, emissions, etc.). Also if you fail, they give you the opportunity to fix the items without the risk of being reported to the DMV as a gross polluter.

AARC51 05-23-2009 06:54 PM

In what state are the checking emissions on 2009 vehicles?

ChrisSlicks 05-23-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AARC51 (Post 77143)
In what state are the checking emissions on 2009 vehicles?

None that I'm aware of.

>135I 05-23-2009 09:45 PM

NY check emissions on all vehicles past I think 76, but I am not sure..

FuszNissan 05-24-2009 08:22 AM

Most places are atleast 2 years before you have to get an inspection and emissions test.

ChrisSlicks 05-24-2009 09:30 AM

In MA you have to get an inspection when you buy the vehicle, even if it is brand new. However emissions are exempt at that time. Basically they look your car over and say "Hey nice car man".

john370z 05-24-2009 09:42 PM

I was posting the question with the next emission check in mind. I am aware that in my state it will be two years away, but if I have to change my cats I'd like to know. I seems that unless you live in CA you will pass the sniffer and most likely any other visual test. Thank you everyone for your imput...

BerkTech 05-27-2009 05:04 AM

From one of our other customers using a Berk HFC, mixed bag of S2000 & 350Z customers. There won't be any 370Z's or G37's going for SMOG anytime soon but the same results here should apply.

Disclaimer: ANY HFC other than the OEM is not legal for use in CA. These can pass smog but they are sold as off road use only! YMMV depending on your state of residence.

"Just for the record, I passed CA smog yesterday with a Berk's HFC, a set of headers, a K&N cold air box and a Skunk2 dual exhaust on my MY03. Yes, the air box has a CARB # on it, as does the HFC, and even after a visual inspection, I passed." - note: the HFC does not have a CARB EO number!!

"2x I have the Berk Header and High flow cat with a full Ti exhaust and I passed the sniffer with flying colors. Bryan is a stand up guy, his parts and quality speak for themself. I would recommend them to anyone in CA."

"The smell is almost non-existant, it's the same as OEM.

Fitment is dead on

It will pass emissions, but this is Canada's emission, not sure about your local emission policies.

Never had a CEL

It flows very close to a test-pipe, so there is a hp/tq gain + weight saving."

"Perfect fit, definitely lighter. I have the HFC, header and Fujit exhaust on my S/C car. I think it does smell a bit, but not at all bad smelling. On an otherwise stock car I doubt it would be noticable. My car is S/C and running an AEM 1052 and I think the tune makes more of a difference in smell than a HFC."

"love it on my 2007 model. no CEL's, no smell, no issues. i highly recommend the Berk HFC.

i am running stock headers, berk HFC, and invidia Q300 exhaust."

initialgemini 05-27-2009 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerkTech (Post 79258)

"Just for the record, I passed CA smog yesterday with a Berk's HFC, a set of headers, a K&N cold air box and a Skunk2 dual exhaust on my MY03. Yes, the air box has a CARB # on it, as does the HFC, and even after a visual inspection, I passed."

How did this customer have a carb number for the HFC?

BerkTech 05-27-2009 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by initialgemini (Post 79621)
How did this customer have a carb number for the HFC?

Should make it clear, the HFC does NOT have a CARB EO#. He was probably misreading the part number which starts with CA/CE 59956.

His intake did have an EO#.

molamann 07-01-2009 07:39 PM

So I DON'T have to get a smog test for 6 years in California right? Just want to clairfy before I jump the gun.

FuszNissan 07-01-2009 07:58 PM

Let me google that for you

genki370z 07-01-2009 11:54 PM

if your really worried about emissions, then after 6 years when you go do a smog check you could always take out the hfc's, install ur stock cats, pass emissions, then put the hfc's back on and tadaaaaaaa! your good for another 2 years!

kannibul 07-02-2009 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tru_Asiatik (Post 75846)
i dont get why most are worried passing in CA its a new car you dont have to worry about smog checks for another 6 yrs
i got mine ill worry abot smogs on my cars 5 yr bday lol

Hang onto the old cats for that reason.

Oklahoma doesn't haev inspections *now* but they did in the past, and they are stoking the fire to bring them back since we have problems with O3 levels, so, with that, I'm thinking if I swap to HFC's (very likely), then I'll keep my old cats nearby for a rainy day...

Crash 07-02-2009 03:25 PM

Geezus... If you can't find a smog shop that doesn't inspect, just take the damn things off, replace with oem, and put them back after the smog. No biggie.

molamann 07-08-2009 02:17 PM

Well turns out my car isn't exempted from smog checks for 6 years because I'm transferring my vehicle from out-of-state.

semtex 07-08-2009 02:22 PM

well that sucks. how soon do you have to smog?

molamann 07-08-2009 02:55 PM

Well I have an appointment at the DMV tomorrow so sometime today? :D

g96818 07-09-2009 11:58 PM

what is emissions inspection :rolleyes:


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