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DJcuetip 05-16-2009 02:14 AM

Nismo intake
 
Just got news that Nismo will be having a company (can't say who) help them design an intake to be released for the 370!.. Just want to give everyone a headsup.. i will let you all know the details when i find out!

355890 05-16-2009 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJcuetip (Post 73708)
Just got news that Nismo will be having a company (can't say who) help them design an intake to be released for the 370!.. Just want to give everyone a headsup.. i will let you all know the details when i find out!


Yes, Please...I am waiting.

eXo5 05-16-2009 08:12 AM

I would like to see them do something like stillen did... Somehow I can only imagine it will be another ramair/shorttube intake

SoCal 370Z 05-16-2009 10:53 AM

I believe Saclam is also developing one.

Josh@STILLEN 05-16-2009 11:19 AM

K&N and recently acquired AEM? :D

arcticreaver 05-21-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 73788)
K&N and recently acquired AEM? :D

hehe you just reminded me to ask K&N about my free intakes. hmm the last time i talked to them was a month ago, i guess i should try my luck again.

semtex 05-21-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by arcticreaver (Post 76036)
hehe you just reminded me to ask K&N about my free intakes. hmm the last time i talked to them was a month ago, i guess i should try my luck again.

Oh that's right. Didn't they use your car for a few days as a test mule or something like that?

Josh@STILLEN 06-03-2009 05:17 PM

So it's the same kit as the dual throttle body 350Z's.. Gotcha... AEM (now K&N)

:)

Endgame 06-03-2009 05:22 PM

I like it!!

drisko 06-04-2009 02:41 AM

How is this a cold air intake? It looks like it might suffer from heat soak.

I'd be interested in an intake that makes a little more power than the stock one, doesn't suffer from heat soak, and doesn't require taking off the bumper to change the air filters. Is this Nismo one anything like this?

tommyguns 06-04-2009 07:08 PM

pm sent
Quote:

Originally Posted by danops (Post 84580)
We're planning on testing one or two Nismo Intakes here in a few weeks to confirm fitment, power gains, track times, and driveability. If anyone is interested in special pricing for the first few intakes for reviews, please email or pm me. If you are going to do 3rd party dyno testing, please make sure that it is done accurately with SAE corrections and w/o, temperature, humidity, elevation, procedures before & after, tire pressure, vdc on/off, dyno type & part number, time between runs, baseline before & after while resetting the ecu & allowing it to learn, a/f, fans, hood open/closed, at cold start or normal operating coolant temp, etc. Also, try to use a dyno dynamics, mustang, or dynopac.


tommyguns 06-09-2009 08:24 PM

Just received word that my Nismo CAI will be on its way tomorrow and with a little luck I should have it for a weekend install.:ughdance:

CBRich 06-09-2009 08:58 PM

You'll definitely have to get us some install pics to see if these just hang out beside the engine or not.

ZforMe 06-09-2009 09:05 PM

Weekend install??? This looks to be about a 15 min job. Do it the second it arrives, LOL.

tommyguns 06-10-2009 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ZforMe (Post 88013)
Weekend install??? This looks to be about a 15 min job. Do it the second it arrives, LOL.

I didn't mean that it would take all weekend. Just that I will be doing it then:tiphat:

NisMoDo 06-10-2009 08:57 AM

Can't wait to see how it actually looks on the car. I wonder how low the intake sits. From the pic the intake looks pretty short.

355890 06-11-2009 10:42 AM

Pictures please......

Modshack 06-11-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 355890 (Post 88889)
Pictures please......

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Just another Short Ram..

semtex 06-11-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 88917)

Yep. In fact, notice that it's the exact same intake as the one for the 350 HR.

355890 06-12-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 88925)
Yep. In fact, notice that it's the exact same intake as the one for the 350 HR.

Which means? How did this intake perform on the 350?

semtex 06-12-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 355890 (Post 89508)
Which means? How did this intake perform on the 350?

Outperformance Shop - NISMO 16576-RNZ38 2009 Nissan 370z 2007-2008 Nissan 350Z Roadster R-tune Dual Cold-air intake

NISMO 16576-RNZ38 2009 Nissan 370z 2007-2008 Nissan 350Z Roadster R-tune Dual Cold-air intake

Fits:
2009+ Nissan 370z
2007-2008 Nissan 350z Roadster

Dual Cold-Air Intake

A NISMO cold-air intake makes your Nissan sound just as tough as it is. The better your engine breathes, the more power it's going to make.

*Horsepower gains for 370z are not available yet
10.2 hp and 8.0 lb-ft of torque increase at the rear wheels
Intake length and diameter tuned for maximum performance
Designed on the dyno for real time power gains throughout the range
Powder coated heat shields
Mandrel-bent 2.75" 6061 aluminum tubing maintains consistent inside diameter
Tube brackets soft mounted to the heat shields for optimal fitment
Reusable/washable intake air filters
Precise, bolt-on installation
Provides a more aggressive intake sound over stock system
Powder-coated black finish with NISMO logo

This component is a NISMO R-Tune accessory and does not carry the Parts and Accessories limited warranty of other Genuine Nissan Accessories. As such, some dealerships elect not to install R-Tune accessories.

355890 06-12-2009 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 89509)
Outperformance Shop - NISMO 16576-RNZ38 2009 Nissan 370z 2007-2008 Nissan 350Z Roadster R-tune Dual Cold-air intake

NISMO 16576-RNZ38 2009 Nissan 370z 2007-2008 Nissan 350Z Roadster R-tune Dual Cold-air intake

Fits:
2009+ Nissan 370z
2007-2008 Nissan 350z Roadster

Dual Cold-Air Intake

A NISMO cold-air intake makes your Nissan sound just as tough as it is. The better your engine breathes, the more power it's going to make.

*Horsepower gains for 370z are not available yet
10.2 hp and 8.0 lb-ft of torque increase at the rear wheels
Intake length and diameter tuned for maximum performance
Designed on the dyno for real time power gains throughout the range
Powder coated heat shields
Mandrel-bent 2.75" 6061 aluminum tubing maintains consistent inside diameter
Tube brackets soft mounted to the heat shields for optimal fitment
Reusable/washable intake air filters
Precise, bolt-on installation
Provides a more aggressive intake sound over stock system
Powder-coated black finish with NISMO logo

This component is a NISMO R-Tune accessory and does not carry the Parts and Accessories limited warranty of other Genuine Nissan Accessories. As such, some dealerships elect not to install R-Tune accessories.


Wouldn't it make sense to bolt these onto a 370z and provide some sort of power gains. I mean, it is a different engine. Yes / No

semtex 06-12-2009 12:00 PM

Not sure I understand your question. Nobody has dyno'd these on a 370 yet to my knowledge. But these aren't really much different than the JWT intake, which RCZ already tested. He got around 8whp if I remember correctly.

Endgame 06-12-2009 03:48 PM

Semtex, 8 whp is nice and all, but will these type intakes become a liability due to the heat in the engine bay??

Modshack 06-12-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 89649)
Semtex, 8 whp is nice and all, but will these type intakes become a liability due to the heat in the engine bay??

Any open element style like that will be..

semtex 06-12-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 89650)
Any open element style like that will be..

:iagree:

tommyguns 06-12-2009 07:28 PM

Look closer in the description;
"Powder coated heat shields"
I understand that these are not for everyone. I decided to purchase these for the ez install and after care. I don't feel like taking my bumper on and off even once not to mention making holes larger. I'm no racer, just a young at heart 50 year old who purchased this car as a 50th birthday present to himself (helps to have a great wife!)I have owned 4 Z's prior to this one, I loved my first a 240! Bob Sharp airdam, true spoke wheels, whale tail, blacked out head light lens covers. She was the best.

Endgame 06-12-2009 07:38 PM

^ O.K.... O.K. So do the heat sheilds REALLY work? Not being a pessimist, just very curious as I am SERIOUSLY considering adding this to my part list.

I plan to do a FEW track days, but that will only be roughly 3% of my Z track activity.....

Thoughts??

Modshack 06-12-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 89769)
^ O.K.... O.K. So do the heat sheilds REALLY work? Not being a pessimist, just very curious as I am SERIOUSLY considering adding this to my part list.

Most short ram heat shields I've seen on ths car only seem to be positioned to reflect radiant heat from the radiator core area. Just a piece of bent aluminum essentially. The hot radiator is really just one source of heat. Most of the air ingested will be hot underhood temperatures that the heat shields have no affect on. The only way to truly protect from this is to build a full box that seals against the hood and allows only air in from the front bulkhead holes (like the stock system) ..or move the filters outside of the engine bay like the Stillen Version 3.

I'm working on a bit of a short ram Hybrid that uses a fully integrated, insulated heat shield around the filters. These will be fed from a cold air feed hose from the fang opening. More when I get these on the car..

http://images49.fotki.com/v1503/phot...MG_1767-vi.jpg

http://images50.fotki.com/v1514/phot...MG_1780-vi.jpg

Endgame 06-13-2009 12:05 AM

Interesting Modshack. Keep us all posted!

semtex 06-13-2009 01:16 PM

Endgame, you're going to get gains with the Nismo. Just not as much as you would with the Stillen G3 is all. The G3s aren't for everyone. Some people just don't want to mess with taking their front bumper cover off, and they're willing to sacrifice some gains for the ability to avoid that. If you're one of those folks, the Nismos are a good option, as are the Takeda and JWT and Stillen G2.

Endgame 06-13-2009 03:26 PM

Thanks Semtex. I am not concerned about all out power the Stillen offers; I don't want to deal with the bumper fun.

Thanks for the clarification.

black09Z 06-13-2009 07:27 PM

um..... they cant make their own intake? how is it NISMO if its not MADE BY NISMO???

i am interested in the box sheild idea. i would love to be updated when more info is available

Caravanshaka 06-13-2009 10:35 PM

so, if the stock airbox is pulling air from outside of the engine bay (most airboxes I have seen do this), then the gains seem to be coming from either:

a) more filter area, allowing more flow
b) less restrictive piping between the airbox and the intake manifold
c) possibly larger diameter tubing around the MAFS tricking the ECU into leaning out the mixture for a few extra ponies

Could we build an effective intake system utilizing the stock airboxes but improving the flow between them and the intake manifold with aluminum piping? Could we build a whole new intake that takes an "airbox" design that sucks air from the front but still uses a conical filter and velocity stack inside a more efficient airbox in the stock location for the best of both worlds?

maybe I need to learn how to weld aluminum now....

Bster 06-14-2009 05:56 AM

Looks a little bit like this intake.

BMC CARBON DYNAMIC ARIBOX | AIR FILTERS | AIR FILTER | car - bike - high performance - racing

Modshack 06-14-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 90556)
so, if the stock airbox is pulling air from outside of the engine bay (most airboxes I have seen do this), then the gains seem to be coming from either:

a) more filter area, allowing more flow
b) less restrictive piping between the airbox and the intake manifold
c) possibly larger diameter tubing around the MAFS tricking the ECU into leaning out the mixture for a few extra ponies

Could we build an effective intake system utilizing the stock airboxes but improving the flow between them and the intake manifold with aluminum piping? Could we build a whole new intake that takes an "airbox" design that sucks air from the front but still uses a conical filter and velocity stack inside a more efficient airbox in the stock location for the best of both worlds?

maybe I need to learn how to weld aluminum now....

All 3 actually. I have silicone hose coming that will remove the accordion pipe and replace it with a smooth walled 2.75" ID. It will mate with the stock airbox if you choose to do this, though I'm going to mate it with my shielded boxes and larger ID MAF tube.. For "B", All you need is $100 or so for the Hose parts (45 degree elbos, straight tubing ,couplers and clamps).

I still need to work out the PCV breathers that will attach at the machined couplers.
http://images50.fotki.com/v1526/phot...MG_1818-vi.jpg

Mock-up...Still needs trimming and fitting:
http://images50.fotki.com/v1526/phot...MG_1819-vi.jpg

Modshack 06-14-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bster (Post 90654)

Not such a good design actually. The air comes in the center, then through the filter to the outside where it picks up heat from the very thin 1/16" Carbon shell. It is than swirled by tabs before exiting which is the last thing you want to do. MAF's just downstream need clean air for accurate readings. The Swirling idea is a throwback to the old carb days..

http://images39.fotki.com/v1227/phot...70/bmc2-vi.jpg


http://images32.fotki.com/v1092/phot...MG_0412-vi.jpg

Caravanshaka 06-14-2009 12:31 PM

Modshack, are you going to dyno the different variations to get an idea of where the best gains are coming from? It would be interesting to do a baseline, then replace the tubing and leave stock airbox and do a pull, then replace the airbox with your conical filters and do another pull, then hookup your cold air tubing and do a last pull. That will tell us a ton about the restrictions of the current setup.

Modshack 06-14-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 90781)
Modshack, are you going to dyno the different variations to get an idea of where the best gains are coming from? It would be interesting to do a baseline, then replace the tubing and leave stock airbox and do a pull, then replace the airbox with your conical filters and do another pull, then hookup your cold air tubing and do a last pull. That will tell us a ton about the restrictions of the current setup.

Short answer is NO.. Small incremental changes of 1-2% or so are well within the typical run to run dyno variances so that wouldn't prove anything definitive. Plus, throwing $$ at dyno runs is not something I'm interested in doing. Common sense mods, even small incremental ones eventually add up... I'm in it for the driveability improvements, not a few HP at the top end.
I don't believe there is much restriction in the stock airbox...There usually isn't, but gains can be had with smoothing and straightening the flow path and other careful tweeks along the way. I'll get a dyno done eventually when things are all done and I have a convenient opportunity.....There are plenty of baseline dynos that have been posted here to get an idea of what's going on..


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