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SuPErBLuE370z 08-11-2011 03:09 PM

ARK vs F.I. CBE OnLy In depth!!!!!!!
 
I know that CBE is a total opinion and no one true best of the best because of all the variables.... That's what I'm trying to figure out... Let me start by saying I love the angled cans and is a must...pls if you leave feedback only leave it for the mentioned CBE... Btw the 2 can you help me out with the following and this is onle CBE nothing else IE CAI HFC or LTH 1.which is overall louder
2. Which has less rasp
3. Which has less drone.
4 which one idles louder
5. Which has better fitment and not known for rattle
6I know this ones dumb but don't understand concept of 12 and 18inch resonators and I thinks it has something to do sound and pressure but don't know significance of sizes.
7Which one sits lower
8I hear the cans sit lower on F.I. Vs Ark
8 I believe you get more WHP with
9. Which CBE tips stick out further than the other(I don't like them sticking out far maybe a half inch to inch more than stock....
10 last overall as far as sound I'm looking for loud but exotic ..... Feedback would be great and btw I've heard a lot of sound clips but to be honest they all sound the damn same plus many are in garages which make no sense to me or right under exhaust which sounds weird

red6spd 08-11-2011 03:21 PM

What is the school.

1. Not sure if ARK offers options like FI does with resonaters so this is hard to answear. Non-Resonated FI is gonna be louder.

2. Once again depends on what FI system you want to go with. The resonated FI have little to no rasp. Even my Non-Resonated FI had very little rasp.

3. Again need to know what FI you want, my Non-Resonated FI had no drone, cant speak for the ARK.

4. I'm sure there both quiet at idle. Look at my Setup in the sig. My car is very quiet once it is warmed up at idle.

5. The larger the resonater the quieter the exhaust and less chance of rasp. A resonater basically just quiets down the exhaust. Go on youtube and you can hear what all 3 FI systems sound like, or go to the exhaust section of this forum.

6. Apperently FI just made a change to tuck there exhaust up some more. The cans may hang low on the FI but the ARK has flanges that are even lower I believe.

7. If you do get more from the FI its probably not much, but the FI has been proven to make the most I believe.

8. Not a question but a statement.

9. Not sure, I think the same. Neither stick out far if installed correctly.

10. Loud and exotic I'm gonna have to say Non-Resonated FI with Non-Resonated Test Pipes. I get so many complements.


P.S Just noticed your from VA. Good luck, your probably gonna get arrested the second you start the car with the new exhaust LOL.

SuPErBLuE370z 08-11-2011 04:25 PM

Haha I live in Great Bridge part of chesapeake and my 2nd to last car was an 89 mustang GT all motor with no cats it was straight exhaust pushing around 415 WHP... Anyways I was pulled over 11 times just for exhaust, 4 for clearance, 5 speeding tickets (2 being reckless) in 4 years.... 3 for exhaust in 9 days so within a month I purchased my now other car GTI...

SuPErBLuE370z 08-11-2011 04:31 PM

And as to which type of FI CBE im not picky but did want the angled cans..and trying to find out the differences... BTW I earned my masters from ODU in Business with a double major in accounting and finance and writing is far from strong suit hahaha.

Methodical4u 08-11-2011 04:53 PM

Both exhausts are great... they each have such a different sound... amazing to me (who knows next to nothing about in depth information of how exhausts flow, work, sound etc) that so many companies can make exhausts that sound so much different. If you like that deep almost V8 growl then the ARK would be for you, if you like the exotic sound... the F.I. would be a much better choice. =

I like them both and have debated back and forth on what I want to get. Remember ARK is coming out with a new TYPE 1 exhaust which is supposed to produce more power and just be better I believe.

I was also just informed by Tony over at Motordyne that his is "worth waiting for" so i'm going to wait on that before I make a choice on anything. These are the 3 i'm waiting on though.

Zrider79 08-11-2011 05:02 PM

I wish motordyne would make a exhaust for us soon, cant wait. I cant speak for ark, but i had the old fast intentions dual for 350z and it was awesome. I think the 18 resonator on the new system sounds cool with oem cats, you should actually get more power with 12 inch resonator, but it will be louder. You should go to a z and g meet and that way you can hear them in person and see what sound makes you smile.

DJ-of-E 08-11-2011 05:27 PM

get neither...BE DIFFERENT!

http://www.the370z.com/exhaust-intak...e-quality.html

http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/a...arbon_b_01.jpg

XwChriswX 08-11-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E (Post 1257057)

I have F.I. right now, and I was reading through the OP and it's hard to read... so tl;dr. Perhaps if each question was broken up you'd get better responses. Also, the SEARCH Feature is your friend. :shakes head: You'll find all the answers you're looking for if you will do but 10 minutes of research...

And with the Akrapovic, although it sounds awesome and the CF tips are :yum: , he's not going to go for it because it doesn't have the angled cans. I myself am seriously eyeballing this to pair with the F.I. LTH's to see what kinda sound it would make. :icon08:

SuPErBLuE370z 08-11-2011 07:20 PM

I heard the motor dyne in a g35 and was not impressed

Jamaica 08-11-2011 07:22 PM

LTH are a waist:stirthepot:

XwChriswX 08-11-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports (Post 1257234)
LTH are a waist:stirthepot:

Thanks bud... :ugh2: :p

Red__Zed 08-11-2011 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1256804)

3. Again need to know what FI you want, my Non-Resonated FI had no drone, cant speak for the ARK.

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:icon14:

eddieconfetti 08-12-2011 10:51 AM

i say just get all of them and try it and the ones you dont like, just sell them. everybody on this forum is gonna have their own views and opinions. checking out old threads still hasnt really helped me choose one. best way would be meeting other forum members and checking out their exhaust. gl

red6spd 08-12-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1257274)
:icon14:


?? Even now with my Non-Resonated TP and CBE there is almost no drone. Never once bothered me driving to you guys in VA then off to NC.

SuPErBLuE370z 08-12-2011 11:36 AM

i dont know what NOG to OG means?

daisuke149 08-12-2011 11:48 AM

I say go Ark.

No drone
Awesome sound/tone
Not loud during cruising, has an awesome just mellow tone in the background
When you get on it, it just sings
looks damn good.

I cant speak on power, but unless someone does proper head to head testing its never going to be conclusive.

Red__Zed 08-12-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1258436)
?? Even now with my Non-Resonated TP and CBE there is almost no drone. Never once bothered me driving to you guys in VA then off to NC.

You must have the world's highest drone tolerance. I heard it the whole way down.

Methodical4u 08-12-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1257157)
I have F.I. right now, and I was reading through the OP and it's hard to read... so tl;dr. Perhaps if each question was broken up you'd get better responses. Also, the SEARCH Feature is your friend. :shakes head: You'll find all the answers you're looking for if you will do but 10 minutes of research...

And with the Akrapovic, although it sounds awesome and the CF tips are :yum: , he's not going to go for it because it doesn't have the angled cans. I myself am seriously eyeballing this to pair with the F.I. LTH's to see what kinda sound it would make. :icon08:

only thing is, he can search, but ARK has no official numbers out for their system and there are no independent before and after ARK dynos either while F.I. does and IMO F.I. has gotten a lot of sales on that alone. Don't get me wrong it sounds most incredible and exotic... and as I said earlier... the ARK also sounds fantastic... it's just a matter of what each person likes and if they are after power or sound or both.

OP, I will tell you this which I think is universally going to be accepted here. The F.I. right now is king when it comes to exhaust and especially power. According to their numbers you are looking at a 25-30 whp jump with the full cat back and test pipes.

SuPErBLuE370z 08-12-2011 09:28 PM

I was lazy but thought the same thing I'll fix it now

SuPErBLuE370z 08-13-2011 12:40 PM

are you talking about the ark type 2

red6spd 08-13-2011 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1258517)
You must have the world's highest drone tolerance. I heard it the whole way down.


IDK? It really is not that bad, I mean its loud at times but not very droney (is that a word?) LOL

SuPErBLuE370z 08-13-2011 05:53 PM

not sure if its a word... english language is screwy(if thats a word lol)...but who am i to judge(have you seen my writing skills hahaha)

roplusbee 08-14-2011 04:07 PM

I have the F.I TDX w/ 18" resonators. On cold start, I become my neighbors alarm clock, lol. It quickly calms down after about a minute or so though. I get some drone at around 2200 RPM, but I am usually not in that range for long while crusing. Only in stop and go and just for a moment. That is how the NISMO should have come from the factory IMO, but I also loved the way the Z33s sounded and they were much louder stock in comparison. Soon I will have a custom TDX for use with my TT installation. That should sound pretty awesome.

The Ark sounds great from the vids and such. Haven't seen one in person yet though.

SuPErBLuE370z 08-18-2011 04:08 PM

i'm going to cars and coffee in williamsburg this weekend....hopefully someone there has one of the 2 for me to hear...but like most of you say i am going to listen in person before i purchase because personally opinion is a huge factor when it comes to exhaust


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