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NeverBoneStck 05-27-2011 01:51 PM

Motordyne ... I challenge you to make a ....
 
Exhaust with no rasp, drone , and hiss. Has to sound aggressive and make power.. No pressure right?? I say this because I know you have a exhaust in development for the 370 z and g 37. I have owned in order fastintentions , hks, magnaflow, invidia Gemini , ark and now have another fastintentions . The only one that did not have rasp , hiss and drone was the 800.00 invidia. Even with my art pipes it did not have any of these issue. I just did not like the way it sounds. Not aggressive enough for me. All the others had one of those issue. So (Tony) let your magic happen and I will buy.. I'm sure others on here will also. No pressure right????????

jran76 05-27-2011 02:49 PM

I think you kind of answered your own challenge there.... It is nearly impossible to make an aggressive sounding exhaust with no drone or rasp. The fact is, the things that kill drone and rasp (smaller pipes and aggressive resonators) also kill the aggressive sound. I don't want to say it is completely impossible, and if someone can do it it would be Motordyne, but that is asking a lot.

NeverBoneStck 05-27-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jran76 (Post 1136712)
I think you kind of answered your own challenge there.... It is nearly impossible to make an aggressive sounding exhaust with no drone or rasp. The fact is, the things that kill drone and rasp (smaller pipes and aggressive resonators) also kill the aggressive sound. I don't want to say it is completely impossible, and if someone can do it it would be Motordyne, but that is asking a lot.


You are right. Tony has figured out how to eliminate drone and rasp. If he can figure out how to eliminate the hiss and make power I'm sold.. I don't know if it can be done but that's why it is the motordyne challenge.. I wonder how many people would buy his exhaust if he accomplished that.. Probably alot..

6MT 05-27-2011 03:07 PM

Exhausts resonate at different RPM's and under different loads (pressures). So I agree with a previous poster.... you probably won't find one.

daisuke149 05-27-2011 04:43 PM

Its not impossible. Just most of us may not be willing to pay the price.

Kingbaby 05-27-2011 05:00 PM

^^^

Answer...

G37sHKS 05-27-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1137016)
Its not impossible. Just most of us may not be willing to pay the price.

Its not about price, there is a guy here who have Amuse exhaust, his hiss is louder than FI's hiss..

NeverBoneStck 05-27-2011 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1137016)
Its not impossible. Just most of us may not be willing to pay the price.

I would.. It's funny that the 800.00 eliminated the rasp , hiss and drone no matter what I threw at it. Hfc or test pipes.. The only thing I didn't like was the tone. Wasn't that deep. You throw on a fastintentions or ark you have the tone but here comes the hiss and slight rasp and they cost over a thousand and some dollars.. Hks is garbage when u add hfc and test pipes . So basically what I am saying is I would pay the price ..

daisuke149 05-27-2011 05:10 PM

well, not sure how that worked with your car but i know people with the gemini and pipes and its not the best sounding thing ever. there is drone and rasp.

G37sHKS 05-27-2011 05:14 PM

the question is, why didn't you challenged tony in PMs? :P

Kingbaby 05-27-2011 05:18 PM

lol

has anyone tried a tp/y-pipe/single 3" exhaust?

I wanna hear it, any clips?

NeverBoneStck 05-27-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 1137063)
the question is, why didn't you challenged tony in PMs? :P


He doesn't have a new exhaust in development .. Also, something lime this seems right up Tonys alley..

wstar 05-27-2011 06:18 PM

No offense, but all of the exhausts you mentioned sound pretty reasonable for a high performance car with a high revving V6. As you've already acknowledged, it's kinda hard to engineer away the little sound foibles that are a matter of taste and still get full performance out of the setup, at a reasonable cost and complexity. None of them sound so horrible that the level of hiss and rasp should be a primary concern.

IMHO, live with it and be happy with the performance (or buy a toyota corolla with a massive stereo system and play a recording of a ferrari revving :roflpuke2:).

FL 4Motion 05-27-2011 08:35 PM

Stock exhaust doesn't drone...

Red__Zed 05-27-2011 08:37 PM

I think most of the issues are inherent to the motor.

I'd love a more aggressive version of the gemini, and if someone built it, I would buy it.

wstar 05-27-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1137300)
Stock exhaust doesn't drone...

But doesn't perform as well as the aftermarket units either, or weigh as little. Everything's a tradeoff.

FL 4Motion 05-27-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1137304)
But doesn't perform as well as the aftermarket units either, or weigh as little. Everything's a tradeoff.

Exactly, a trade off. Some are willing to make it, some aren't.

corbin09 05-28-2011 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingbaby (Post 1137068)
lol

has anyone tried a tp/y-pipe/single 3" exhaust?

I wanna hear it, any clips?

I dont have a clip, but i did it... It was LOUD, and raspy as hell... Not a clean sound. I got rid of it in about 4 weeks.

mjohn617 05-29-2011 10:42 AM

Powersticks...check out my recent post.


Possible fix for rasp!!!

Motordyne 05-29-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 1136608)
Exhaust with no rasp, drone , and hiss. Has to sound aggressive and make power.. No pressure right?? I say this because I know you have a exhaust in development for the 370 z and g 37. I have owned in order fastintentions , hks, magnaflow, invidia Gemini , ark and now have another fastintentions . The only one that did not have rasp , hiss and drone was the 800.00 invidia. Even with my art pipes it did not have any of these issue. I just did not like the way it sounds. Not aggressive enough for me. All the others had one of those issue. So (Tony) let your magic happen and I will buy.. I'm sure others on here will also. No pressure right????????

OK. Will do.:tup:

370Z JT 05-30-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1140238)
OK. Will do.:tup:

Similar in design like the shockwave for the 350Z?

NeverBoneStck 05-30-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1140238)
OK. Will do.:tup:

Nice. :ughdance:

fairladyZ34 05-30-2011 09:45 PM

For no hiss it would have to be true dual all the way back, ive been thinking about maybe going custom exhaust to get a nice deep aggressive non hiss exhaust

wstar 05-31-2011 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ34 (Post 1142081)
For no hiss it would have to be true dual all the way back, ive been thinking about maybe going custom exhaust to get a nice deep aggressive non hiss exhaust

I was looking around for a good explanation of X/H-crossovers on the net, and this little paragraph from a jegs.com catalog page is a pretty decent summary:

Quote:

X-pipe and H-pipes synchronize the balance of the exhaust pulses from each bank of cylinders based on firing order which increases velocity and scavenging from each cylinder. Most people agree that X-pipes are better at improving performance than H-pipes, especially at the top end. However, H-pipes tend to have a deeper sound than x-pipe equipped vehicles and generally build power down low. These are general claims and your engine and exhaust combination could have different results.
Who knows what Motordyne will end up doing. Based on their past products, they're clearly pretty creative at airflow and resonance engineering stuff. But I wouldn't expect an isolated dual system to be the best for our cars, in terms of sound or performance.

AggieAv8r 06-12-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 1136608)
Exhaust with no rasp, drone , and hiss. Has to sound aggressive and make power.. No pressure right?? I say this because I know you have a exhaust in development for the 370 z and g 37. I have owned in order fastintentions , hks, magnaflow, invidia Gemini , ark and now have another fastintentions . The only one that did not have rasp , hiss and drone was the 800.00 invidia. Even with my art pipes it did not have any of these issue. I just did not like the way it sounds. Not aggressive enough for me. All the others had one of those issue. So (Tony) let your magic happen and I will buy.. I'm sure others on here will also. No pressure right????????

So what can I expect with the ARK and ART Pipes? Rattle? Hiss?

Zedx 06-12-2011 10:40 PM

you can get rid of the drone and his by going with adding too resonators to the aftermarket why pipe. Helps TONS. i have high flow cats. and full 2.8 inch exhauste from Amuse and NO HISS or DRONE> with an aggressive tune.

phelan 06-12-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zedx (Post 1165538)
you can get rid of the drone and his by going with adding too resonators to the aftermarket why pipe. Helps TONS. i have high flow cats. and full 2.8 inch exhauste from Amuse and NO HISS or DRONE> with an aggressive tune.

you did what with the y-pipe? i've got the same setup and i hiss still. no drone though.

Motordyne 06-13-2011 12:54 AM

Exhaust parts always have unique interactions with the other parts you connect to it. They affect each others sound in ways you cant fully predict without actually trying it, but you could try this as a way to help mitigate hiss or rasp.
http://www.motordyneengineering.com/...ID=133&image=0

http://www.motordyneengineering.com/...ID=133&image=0

Zedx 06-14-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1165587)
you did what with the y-pipe? i've got the same setup and i hiss still. no drone though.

I added two 12" Resonators to the Y-pipe. almost sounds stock with a deeper drone. and still make over 300 HP on Mustang Dyno.

6MT 06-14-2011 12:27 PM

Exhaust threads really make me laugh. 45% want no "drone". 45% want no "rasp". the other 10% are quite happy.

daisuke149 06-14-2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1168508)
Exhaust threads really make me laugh. 45% want no "drone". 45% want no "rasp". the other 10% are quite happy.

i want no drone, no rasp and i want to be happy too.

Motordyne 06-14-2011 02:23 PM

Motordyne will come through. :tup:

G37sHKS 06-14-2011 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1168853)
Motordyne will come through. :tup:

We all know that it will come, but the question is.. WHEN it will come??

Econ 06-14-2011 03:26 PM

thursday hopefully. im done waiting.

;)

TypeOne 06-14-2011 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1137016)
Its not impossible. Just most of us may not be willing to pay the price.

:iagree:


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