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B.A.Q 04-16-2011 04:48 PM

Hot Air Intake !!
 
So I have the 3G Stillen intake. And I noticed in the drag if I stopped the car for few minutes the headers makes the Intake very hot specially the one in the passenger side I think the small space in that side. so when I drive the Intake cools off but when I get back in line and wait I start the drag with a hot air intake !! it would be great in the track I guess. I didn't have this problem in the winter but now it's another story in Phoenix :facepalm:

I was thinking of wrapping the intake if possible, I come from a hot climate country were we used to wrap the intakes so it doesn't get hot, until now that is the only thing I can think of, might sound stupid but any suggestion ???

christian370z 04-16-2011 06:59 PM

You can use something like this:

http://www.performanceracingonline.c...sourceid=GPPRG

Or this:

Cool Cover 36" x 14" - Universal Air Intake Shield Wrap | eBay

The first option will be best as gold is the most efficient reflector of heat you will find for automotive applications, however the intakes will still heat soak in Phoenix level heat if you sit in traffic long enough.

B.A.Q 04-17-2011 01:45 PM

Thanks man just what I needed ..

christian370z 04-17-2011 07:07 PM

No problem, I think I might try these myself actually!

B.A.Q 04-18-2011 03:36 PM

damn it will look ugly. I won't open my hood at gathering any more :ughdance:

Red__Zed 04-18-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by B.A.Q (Post 1060279)
damn it will look ugly. I won't open my hood at gathering any more :ughdance:

The foil can actually look pretty good if done right.

wstar 04-18-2011 04:22 PM

I shielded my Gen3's a long time ago. Pics + Parts Here. Note that I don't give a **** what my engine bay looks like, within reason, so obviously my parts won't be kosher for you show-car types :)

XwChriswX 04-18-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by B.A.Q (Post 1060279)
damn it will look ugly. I won't open my hood at gathering any more :ughdance:

I know there are certain ones that are a wrap, so if you make it to where it is removable, you can take it off for DD and for shows... and put it on for Track events.

B.A.Q 04-19-2011 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1060383)
I shielded my Gen3's a long time ago. Pics + Parts Here. Note that I don't give a **** what my engine bay looks like, within reason, so obviously my parts won't be kosher for you show-car types :)

looks better than other cars I saw :D

was it affective ?

and where did you get that wrap ?

wstar 04-19-2011 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by B.A.Q (Post 1061303)
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was it affective ?

I assume it's pretty effective. Most of the heat entering the G3 tubes seems to be on the upper segment (close to the TB), you can feel the heat on the bottom side of those, coming straight up from the exhaust manifold / header. Any insulation for the intake tube in that area has to help. Our Intake Air Temp sensors are just below that point (the MAS modules), so I don't think the difference actually shows on out IAT readings. If you shielded the lower part out in front of the radiator (from radiator heat) that might show up on IATs if it works, I never did yet.

Quote:

and where did you get that wrap ?
My links were outdated, I fixed them:

Thermo-Tec's intake air tube shield for most of the coverage (measure and cut out some rectangular holes for the MAS blocks) + DEI Cool Tape for the MAS blocks and sealing up the other edge areas the wrap didn't cover.

B.A.Q 04-19-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1061318)
I assume it's pretty effective. Most of the heat entering the G3 tubes seems to be on the upper segment (close to the TB), you can feel the heat on the bottom side of those, coming straight up from the exhaust manifold / header. Any insulation for the intake tube in that area has to help. Our Intake Air Temp sensors are just below that point (the MAS modules), so I don't think the difference actually shows on out IAT readings. If you shielded the lower part out in front of the radiator (from radiator heat) that might show up on IATs if it works, I never did yet.



My links were outdated, I fixed them:

Thermo-Tec's intake air tube shield for most of the coverage (measure and cut out some rectangular holes for the MAS blocks) + DEI Cool Tape for the MAS blocks and sealing up the other edge areas the wrap didn't cover.


thanks man. I will give it a try

christian370z 04-19-2011 02:33 PM

Gold heat wrap can look clean if done well in my opinion:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...8/DSC05318.jpg

Red__Zed 04-19-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1062251)
Gold heat wrap can look clean if done well in my opinion:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...8/DSC05318.jpg

:yum:

B.A.Q 04-20-2011 03:04 PM

:iagree:

ChipsWithDips 04-20-2011 05:10 PM

It seems like a nice idea to wrap the intake, but I kind of wonder if it really has any measurable effect. I'd love to see some before/after IAT logs. I might have to try logging it myself when my Gen 3's come in.

I've heard arguments against wrapping intakes, not that it hurts, just that it's a waste of time, since as soon as you floor the gas pedal, there will be enough air to chill those pipes back down very quickly. I guess it's a question of how quickly an unwrapped pipe soaks up heat, and how quickly it will cool back off from just the air flowing inside it. If revving your motor before a launch is enough to cool them back off, then I would argue it's pretty much not worth it. Or maybe just a fraction of the first second after launch, where you are probably traction limited anyways...

XwChriswX 04-20-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChipsWithDips (Post 1064891)
It seems like a nice idea to wrap the intake, but I kind of wonder if it really has any measurable effect. I'd love to see some before/after IAT logs. I might have to try logging it myself when my Gen 3's come in.

The only problem is it might be one temp before the maf/temp sensor, but then there's still a foot of piping for it to travel though afterwards... You'd have to have a sensor placed at the TB itself to get a true IAT of what's actually going in the engine. :ugh2:

wstar 04-20-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChipsWithDips (Post 1064891)
not that it hurts, just that it's a waste of time

It quite possibly is a "waste of time", most of the time. On the other hand, it could help, and when you look at the average $$ to performance ratio of most of the mods people are doing on these cars, it's so cheap and easy that you might as well just do it. The little, cheap temp/efficiency optimizations add up in the long run.

B.A.Q 04-21-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChipsWithDips (Post 1064891)
It seems like a nice idea to wrap the intake, but I kind of wonder if it really has any measurable effect. I'd love to see some before/after IAT logs. I might have to try logging it myself when my Gen 3's come in.

I've heard arguments against wrapping intakes, not that it hurts, just that it's a waste of time, since as soon as you floor the gas pedal, there will be enough air to chill those pipes back down very quickly. I guess it's a question of how quickly an unwrapped pipe soaks up heat, and how quickly it will cool back off from just the air flowing inside it. If revving your motor before a launch is enough to cool them back off, then I would argue it's pretty much not worth it. Or maybe just a fraction of the first second after launch, where you are probably traction limited anyways...

It would be a wast if it really cools that fast but the prob is it doesn't

I had the worst runs in the last week from 13.4 the week before to 13.9 and 13.75 was the best

it doesn't really help when you start the race with a hot intake and cools down when you finished the 1/4 and heats up while waiting for your turn :shakes head:

specially in the summer time but the wrapping hopefully will not make it hot as it used to. and when I say hot, I mean really hot that you can't keep your hand on intake!!

so I will order the gold one and hopefully I will get it done soon if I can survive the exams :eekdance:


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