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Chan Chee Hoe 02-16-2011 05:40 AM

More Air=Less Torque.?
 
Hi Friends,good morning,i change my air filter to C.A.I.,but noticed the car has even less 'Low End Torque',did any members here noticed it.?Mine is an auto,this made the car have slower respond on city driving...thanks.

G37sHKS 02-16-2011 06:44 AM

Was it custom intakes?

ChrisSlicks 02-16-2011 08:34 AM

What one did you install? If the pipe diameter around the MAF was changed then it could have leaned the car out and reduced power.

Abdiel 02-16-2011 10:52 AM

I think if you're running rich (which seems to be the case for stock setup), leaning out gives more power (up to point of detontation).

Btw, OP mentioned changing air filters to CAI. Was it only a filter change (e.g. to K&N) or the whole OEM intake to an aftermarket intake?

christian370z 02-16-2011 02:26 PM

When I installed my Stillen G3 intake, I noticed more power everywhere and especially in the higher revs.

TongMan 02-16-2011 04:58 PM

When you go CAI, you will gain it across the power band, but mostly in the higher RPMs, so you will feel like you lost low end torque.

Chan Chee Hoe 02-16-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TongMan (Post 944528)
When you go CAI, you will gain it across the power band, but mostly in the higher RPMs, so you will feel like you lost low end torque.

Agreed,better at high Rpm,not so good at city driving.

Chan Chee Hoe 02-16-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisslicks (Post 943534)
what one did you install? If the pipe diameter around the maf was changed then it could have leaned the car out and reduced power.

hks...

370z_2910 02-16-2011 10:40 PM

Yes..i've noticed that too..

It seems it reduced the low end torque...

It makes the car less aggressive during over-take of the other car after installing the g3 which i prefer like that...

After 4k, the power are more noticeable after the g3 which is more useful during driving on the highway road...

Jordo! 02-17-2011 12:18 AM

optimal flow will vary according to effective VE of motor at different RPM's.

Better flowing exhaust will often help you higher in the rev range because better effective VE to take advantage of it, but at lower RPM, the greater available air mass actually slows flow, so you lose some low speed torque.

Be nice if VVEL could be tuned to work around that...

Rooskey 02-17-2011 01:48 AM

This is why everyone shoots for max power results on the dyno. On the street dyno results dont do sh#%t. You have an engine just like everyone else here does, I would look for average horsepower gain rather than peak gains. Yes you probably did loose some low end but got some on the top end. How often are you just on the top end when your racing someone? Not all the time. Build your car where it runs good from 45 to 75 rpms. Average HP's always do it better. Even on the road courses!!

Alfamale 02-17-2011 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 945144)
This is why everyone shoots for max power results on the dyno. On the street dyno results dont do sh#%t. You have an engine just like everyone else here does, I would look for average horsepower gain rather than peak gains. Yes you probably did loose some low end but got some on the top end. How often are you just on the top end when your racing someone? Not all the time. Build your car where it runs good from 45 to 75 rpms. Average HP's always do it better. Even on the road courses!!

+1 :iagree:

Chan Chee Hoe 02-18-2011 06:58 AM

i think the poor low end torque,also partial blame on the warm weather here....engines don't like warm air...


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