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jhp3 11-18-2010 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 813842)
Yep with that analogy just go buy the high end pipes for $400 since you are buying a 40K car.... LOL

Pipes are pipes, I don't get it. A quality cat back I can see, but test pipes?

Buy whatever the hell you want, but after 35 years of owning high end performance cars, from a 1960s Boss 302 to Z28s to an M3 to 4 corvettes, I won't compromise my performance and investment by modifying with dimestore components.

tjlazer 11-18-2010 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jhp3 (Post 813850)
Buy whatever the hell you want, but after 35 years of owning high end performance cars, from a 1960s Boss 302 to Z28s to an M3 to 4 corvettes, I won't compromise my performance and investment by modifying with dimestore components.

It's just a short metal pipe. Relax man. lol

Jamaica 11-18-2010 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 813854)
It's just a short metal pipe. Relax man. lol

I get were his coming from but what is something does go wrong? Its like 50/50 chance. Idk man

jhp3 11-18-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 813854)
It's just a short metal pipe. Relax man. lol

No need for an attack, but do you honestly believe that a $40 test pipe will last as long, fit as well, and perform over the long run as well as higher end test pipe? Just a simple yes or no would be sufficient.

Jamaica 11-18-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jhp3 (Post 813863)
No need for an attack, but do you honestly believe that a $40 test pipe will last as long, fit as well, and perform over the long run as well as higher end test pipe? Just a simple yes or no would be sufficient.

I think no. The material might also be different.

jhp3 11-18-2010 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 813865)
I think no. The material might also be different.

Thank you Mr Jamaica951. I love this forum--it provides some much needed excitement in my otherwise calm and relaxed life!

CrownR426 11-18-2010 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 813842)
Yep with that analogy just go buy the high end pipes for $400 since you are buying a 40K car.... LOL

Pipes are pipes, I don't get it. A quality cat back I can see, but test pipes?

:ughdance:
I assume your joking...
Cheap test pipes will not last...
They'll probably break off one day and then what...
Wasted money.

OP, you have a Nismo don't rice it...

Jordo! 11-18-2010 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jhp3 (Post 813839)
Buying a $40 test pipe is just inviting trouble. When you start modifying your $35000 ride, the old axiom "You get what you pay for" is as true today as it has ever been. When performing mods, if you can't afford or are too cheap (frugal?) to get the best or close to it, then don't bother--you'll never be totally satisfied. Good Luck.

They are two pipes with flanges on either end. Not much can go wrong. Either they bolt up or they don't. If they don't, send them back.

Those look exactly like the ones I got off of ebay which were ~$150 shipped and they work just fine.

Seriously now... :ughdance:

jhp3 11-18-2010 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 813963)
They are two pipes with flanges on either end. Not much can go wrong. Either they bolt up or they don't. If they don't, send them back.

Those look exactly like the ones I got off of ebay which were ~$150 shipped and they work just fine.

Seriously now... :ughdance:

Your point is well taken and I appreciate your making it without an unproductive attack. However, take your example. I try not to install most mods myself as My experience has taught me that I'll f*** something up...so I leave it to professionals to install my mods. So, for the sake of friendly argument, let's say I buy my $40 pipe off eBay, schedule an appt w/ my exhaust guy, drive 20 miles there, he uninstalls my stock cats, attempts to install my straight pipe , but, as in your scenario, ...it doesn't fit. My installer then has to reinstall my stock cats. I have to pay him his full charge--it wasn't his fault; and i now have to fool with the hassle of returning the $40 pipe back to the ebay seller (probably at my expense if he's like most ebay sellers), and then hope he sends me one that will fit. After probably some delay, i finally get the pipe and its back to the installer again, hoping this will fit. And I've got to pay him again to install. To me, it's too much risk of a continuous hassle and could cost me more $ than if I had bought the high end pipe in the fist place. So, to me, I've been better off buying the best quality aftermarket mods I can afford.

gaveup 11-18-2010 07:14 AM

I'm confused here, did someone say to order a $275 TEST PIPE because it's better quality? Seriously? 2 flanges (cheap) welded to a short pipe (cheap) should not cost $275.

Do you understand how easy and cheap it is for these exhaust companies to make their exhausts (read: CAT BACKS)? How much time do you think they actually invest in making a jig for their products? It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to create these parts and decide what will sound good and work. Once they have a prototype or jig they do 1 of 2 things, send it over seas to be reproduced for the cost of peanuts or make it in house using their jig. Even if they opt to make it in house, it's still cheap.


People that have this train of thought are the single reason companies over charge for simple (and cheap) items like exhaust and exhaust components. Do you really think it costs certain American companies anywhere near the $1,300+ price you pay for their exhaust? I think if you added up the cost of the supplies and labor (including man hours spent fitting/creating the exhaust/R&D) and compared it to the final cost you paid you would laugh.

Money does not equal quality all the time. But hey, I can't knock any of these companies. They know that if they charge more (based on the car) for "quality" parts someone will go out and buy it solely because it's more expensive and therefore must be better.

CBRich 11-18-2010 10:52 AM

I'm gonna have to say for that price if the inlet and outlet match up who cares if the welds crack and they eventually fall off. It's only 100 bucks lost and it's not going to harm the car.

daisuke149 11-18-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 814236)
I'm gonna have to say for that price if the inlet and outlet match up who cares if the welds crack and they eventually fall off. It's only 100 bucks lost and it's not going to harm the car.

its only 100$ lost if you have the spare time to do it yourself. for the people who can't its installation cost.

gaveup 11-18-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 814242)
its only 100$ lost if you have the spare time to do it yourself. for the people who can't its installation cost.

In all honesty if that's too much of a hassle (changing test pipes is pretty easy after you've gotten the stock cats off) then perhaps modding a car isn't a good idea for some people.

Even the "higher" quality test pipes are not 100% indestructible and are prone to cracking as well. (although it *might* be at a lower rate, but who knows) So you'd be out even more money if that were the case right?

Let's say you bought these ebay test pipes and got them installed (if you can find a shop that will remove cats for you) and one of the welds cracked, you could always bring it back to the exhaust shop and they should be able to fix the crack for like $50 tops. This would be the same for any of the more expensive pipes as well.

That said, has anyone on here bought these "cheap", "poorly made" "garbage" ebay test pipes and had an issue with them cracking?

daisuke149 11-18-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 814266)
In all honesty if that's too much of a hassle (changing test pipes is pretty easy after you've gotten the stock cats off) then perhaps modding a car isn't a good idea for some people.

Even the "higher" quality test pipes are not 100% indestructible and are prone to cracking as well. (although it *might* be at a lower rate, but who knows) So you'd be out even more money if that were the case right?

Let's say you bought these ebay test pipes and got them installed (if you can find a shop that will remove cats for you) and one of the welds cracked, you could always bring it back to the exhaust shop and they should be able to fix the crack for like $50 tops. This would be the same for any of the more expensive pipes as well.

That said, has anyone on here bought these "cheap", "poorly made" "garbage" ebay test pipes and had an issue with them cracking?


your analogy if its not that big of a hassle.. let me reword that...

If you think cooking is too much of a hassle.. then you shouldnt eat..

I know im stretching it!

still. Some people dont have the time, tools or ability. Doesnt mean they cannot enjoy their car like some of us do.

efuseakay 11-18-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 813862)
I get were his coming from but what is something does go wrong? Its like 50/50 chance. Idk man

Like what? Your car won't explode just from test pipes.


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