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semtex 04-30-2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Diocletian (Post 519577)
He listed he has an Injen CAI, and FI HFC's and CBE in his post. That's making me concerned obviously because I'll have the same mods as him in the next week or two. :/

Edit: Actually I wonder if he dynoed immediately after getting the mods done, because that would definitely skew his numbers.

Oh, sorry I missed that. I was focused on the part that just said Mods: Exhaust. 280 does seem a little low. But keep in mind that this is a 7AT, which might also come into play.

Diocletian 04-30-2010 08:07 AM

There isn't that much drivetrain loss on the Auto if any, due to the ratio of the gearing. There are plenty of 7AT's pulling over 300hp+ on similar mods and are basically dead even with the 6 speed.

m4a1mustang 04-30-2010 08:09 AM

Keep in mind that some dynos will read very low...

For example... 2theextreme put down 300+ whp on a DynoJet at Altered Atmosphere...

Then with the same mods he couldn't break over 270whp on a Dyno Dynamics at Function Tuned...

Vegitto-kun 04-30-2010 08:10 AM

so which one is actually accurate

m4a1mustang 04-30-2010 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 519591)
so which one is actually accurate

That's open to debate.

semtex 04-30-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 519591)
so which one is actually accurate

I don't think there's a definitive answer to that. It's not like there's some gold standard by which one can compare different makes of dynos against. Like think about clocks. The various atomic clocks around the world serve as the standards by which all other clocks are compared against. Is your watch accurate? Compare it against the atomic clock. There is no equivalent to the atomic clock for dynos. All we can do is disclose what type of dyno our numbers came from when we say our cars made xyz HP/TQ. People in the know will understand the significance of the number in relation to the type of dyno. And those who aren't in the know . . . well . . . screw 'em. ;)

m4a1mustang 04-30-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 519596)
I don't think there's a definitive answer to that. It's not like there's some gold standard by which one can compare different makes of dynos against. Like think about clocks. The various atomic clocks around the world serve as the standards by which all other clocks are compared against. Is your watch accurate? Compare it against the atomic clock. There is no equivalent to the atomic clock for dynos. All we can do is disclose what type of dyno our numbers came from when we say our cars made xyz HP/TQ. People in the know will understand the significance of the number in relation to the type of dyno. And those who aren't in the know . . . well . . . screw 'em. ;)

But we all know if you want "signature" numbers you should find a DynoJet somewhere :tup:

semtex 04-30-2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 519597)
But we all know if you want "signature" numbers you should find a DynoJet somewhere :tup:

Or a DynaPak, if you're just after bragging rights. Of course, when people find out your numbers came from a DynaPak they'll laugh at you. :roflpuke2:

m4a1mustang 04-30-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 519598)
Or a DynaPak, if you're just after bragging rights. Of course, when people find out your numbers came from a DynaPak they'll laugh at you. :roflpuke2:

:icon18:

I do need to head up to Altered to get dyno'd... I put down 265.4 on a DynoDynamics with my intakes... I need a bigger number :bowrofl:

Vegitto-kun 04-30-2010 08:49 AM

I just did a dyno test on a dyno jet

STOCK WITH 1000+ HP

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWER

neveucd 04-30-2010 09:19 AM

This was a mustang dyno, which I was told reads lower but is more accurate for real world street condition power, because it measures off of where the load is applied as opposed to inertia on a Dynojet, and because of this the Mustang Dyno read 11 or 12% lower than the Dynojet., and the exhaust is fast intention along with the HFC's. The intake is injen. Other than that nothing else as far as power adders.

Some examples I found

I ran my GS on a Mustang dyno which yielded 284 RWHP. I recently ran it again on a Dynojet and it only mustered 299 RWHP

He dyno'd his 01 Camaro SS on the dynojet and made the typical 310 RWHP. Right after that he strapped it to the Mustang dyno, and made 245 RWHP. 65 HP difference.

I don't know tho, I'm no expert. That is why I estimated 300 rwhp on a Dynojet, since I've been seeing others w/ around same mods, intake, cbe, and hfc or test pipes make 296+.

neveucd 04-30-2010 09:23 AM

And no I didn't dyno immediately, I've had everything on for at least 4 months now.

semtex 04-30-2010 09:31 AM

I think your estimate of 300whp on a DynoJet is about right. You just forgot to say "on a DynoJet" in your original post, which is why I was confused.

neveucd 04-30-2010 09:54 AM

Oh ok, damn I wanted your headers actually, but I see you just pulled the trigger on a sale....sad day :(. I don't know if I want to bother selling my hfc's and waiting the long wait for LTH's.

semtex 04-30-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by neveucd (Post 519698)
Oh ok, damn I wanted your headers actually, but I see you just pulled the trigger on a sale....sad day :(. I don't know if I want to bother selling my hfc's and waiting the long wait for LTH's.

Another member has a set for sale. He was holding off until mine were sold as a courtesy to me. I will send you both PM to put you in touch with each other.


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