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mikeb 03-09-2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3737271)
Best coin spent here would be on a long tube cold air intake like the Stillen Gen 3 cold air intake or install K&N drop in air filters in the stock air boxes.

I hear ya Quicksilvers, but no need to assume that is an absolute for all products. For example

vs K&N+z1 postMAF - often quoted as superior but this unit has a sealed box that mounts in the factory cai location. It has polymer piping which should have less heat soak then the more common metal piping, it should match or exceed the z1 postMAF. There is more surface area on a conical filter and you get more growl. Yes there are cost benefits to keeping stock but that mainly a factor for tighter budgets, a bigger concern in my case is warranty

vs Stillen (long tube) - apples to apples; no other mods or tune. The Gen3 specs a gain of 17 (z1 website) vs 15. Ya its manufacture data but that OK, a stillen 3 guy gonna do other mods and tune anyway. Therefore more cost to get the full benefit of a long tube cai, along with more labor and installation.

Side note on the low end loss conversation. One theory being that larger/longer tubing and better flow actually reduces air velocity at low speeds. I find it interesting that the OP noted the AEM has smaller than typical piping, perhaps by design for this reason. Just some observations; not an attempt to debate as its already been done in other threads. This is more of a product review

CRiZO 03-09-2018 08:48 AM

The cult-like devotion to the Stillen intake on here is really weird lol. I thought we settled the CAI debate in the 90s.

JLarson 03-09-2018 09:08 AM

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Friend of mine had the following mods:

FI Test Pipes, AAM true Dual Exhaust 3", HKS High Flow Filters, Mishimoto Replacement Tubes. Dyno @ RT Tuning, 4th gear, STD: 310 whp 265 wtq.

Upgraded to the R2C intakes, which have a very similar design to the AEM: 315 whp, 269 wtq.

Attached, just in case it's helpful to someone.

SS_Firehawk 03-09-2018 09:38 AM

Stillen G3's aren't made that well. They have a nasty lip where they weld the tube expansion near the filter. Second, is it takes a lot of care to ensure you're protecting your AC line. This AEM unit is about as good as a shorty is going to get. The Z1 intake is an easier install with no real flaws for people going for the longer tube CAI option. You'll still make power with the G3, but it's not the answer for people who don't put up with **** craftsmanship.

johnnydrama 03-09-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeb (Post 3737351)
I hear ya Quicksilvers, but no need to assume that is an absolute for all products. For example

vs K&N+z1 postMAF - often quoted as superior but this unit has a sealed box that mounts in the factory cai location. It has polymer piping which should have less heat soak then the more common metal piping, it should match or exceed the z1 postMAF. There is more surface area on a conical filter and you get more growl. Yes there are cost benefits to keeping stock but that mainly a factor for tighter budgets, a bigger concern in my case is warranty

vs Stillen (long tube) - apples to apples; no other mods or tune. The Gen3 specs a gain of 17 (z1 website) vs 15. Ya its manufacture data but that OK, a stillen 3 guy gonna do other mods and tune anyway. Therefore more cost to get the full benefit of a long tube cai, along with more labor and installation.

Side note on the low end loss conversation. One theory being that larger/longer tubing and better flow actually reduces air velocity at low speeds. I find it interesting that the OP noted the AEM has smaller than typical piping, perhaps by design for this reason. Just some observations; not an attempt to debate as its already been done in other threads. This is more of a product review

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRiZO (Post 3737354)
The cult-like devotion to the Stillen intake on here is really weird lol. I thought we settled the CAI debate in the 90s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3737355)
Friend of mine had the following mods:

FI Test Pipes, AAM true Dual Exhaust 3", HKS High Flow Filters, Mishimoto Replacement Tubes. Dyno @ RT Tuning, 4th gear, STD: 310 whp 265 wtq.

Upgraded to the R2C intakes, which have a very similar design to the AEM: 315 whp, 269 wtq.

Attached, just in case it's helpful to someone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3737357)
Stillen G3's aren't made that well. They have a nasty lip where they weld the tube expansion near the filter. Second, is it takes a lot of care to ensure you're protecting your AC line. This AEM unit is about as good as a shorty is going to get. The Z1 intake is an easier install with no real flaws for people going for the longer tube CAI option. You'll still make power with the G3, but it's not the answer for people who don't put up with **** craftsmanship.

Agreed with all of these. I had the Stillen G3s, they aren't the end all be all for every application and definitely not the best for the price. If I were to do long-tubes I would go with the Z1 offering.

Rusty 03-09-2018 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRiZO (Post 3737354)
The cult-like devotion to the Stillen intake on here is really weird lol. I thought we settled the CAI debate in the 90s.

They were the first long tube that made power, and they work. Since then. Others have come out at a cheaper price that works just as well. When I got my Stillen. It was that or heat soaking shorties. People follow on what works.

Quicksilvers 03-10-2018 12:14 AM

I myself have seen back to back dyno tunes with the Stillen Gen 3 longtube cold air intake on a 2011 370Z after the engine reached normal operating temperatures the Stillen Gen 3 longtube cold air intakes still made power on the dyno. The Stillen Gen 3 longtube cold air intakes have already been proven to make power on the VQ platform many times over. People run parts on there 370Z that work I agree. Also there is no question of the quality or workmanship of the Stillen Gen 3 I believe sounds like some people just have a preference or biased opinion. I have helped install two Stillen Gen 3 longtube cold air intakes on the 370Z and I seen nothing wrong with the quality of the construction.As far as fitment of the Stillen Gen 3 it comes close to the A/C lines but,there is not a lot of space to work with on the 370Z though and just about every brand longtube cold air intake on the 370Z will have similar fitment. The new AEM intakes do look good in the 370Z engine bay I hope someone could dyno using the new AEM intakes? Results?

l2iceman 04-28-2018 08:04 PM

Just installed these. Had a question for those who have as well. The maf wiring harness. Instructions say to loop it under the intake tube and plug in. This was fine in the driver's side, but the passenger side harness isn't long enough for me to wrap around and plug in, maybe 1cm too short. We're you all able to easily wrap it under? I ended up just putting the harness over the tube.

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PaulNYz 05-02-2018 03:14 PM

So has anybody made a video of these yet? I'd like to hear how they sound

l2iceman 06-05-2018 09:51 AM

I can't hear any difference in sound...but that's also because I have resonated test pipes and an exhaust, so recording a video won't help, I tried haha

s2krazyyy 06-06-2018 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by l2iceman (Post 3762143)
I can't hear any difference in sound...but that's also because I have resonated test pipes and an exhaust, so recording a video won't help, I tried haha

Just picked these intakes up. How was the butt dyno and did you figure out a solution to passenger side maf problem you were having.

l2iceman 06-06-2018 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by s2krazyyy (Post 3762326)
Just picked these intakes up. How was the butt dyno and did you figure out a solution to passenger side maf problem you were having.

I ended up leaving the passenger side wiring to go above the intake. As for butt dyno, didn't feel much different.

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