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M.Bonanni 12-28-2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 345750)
Hey Mike, any new updates on GB 1 on shipments?

I haven't talked to Berk since before the holidays.

theDreamer 12-28-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by M.Bonanni (Post 345896)
I haven't talked to Berk since before the holidays.

Sounds good, just getting excited. :D

MightyBobo 12-28-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 345903)
Sounds good, just getting excited. :D

You and me both brother.

Billy830 12-31-2009 12:43 AM

Dyno Test for Cold air intakes
 
I think that the data supplied for dyno test is suspect to me. After 23 years in aero space and calibrating orifice plates, venturis and other flow devices. the outside ambient air temperature or the air getting to the filter is the controlling factor in how much hp is to be gained. The colder the outside air temperature air density increases so volume increases and greater HP gains.
The hotter the ouside air temp density decreases and less HP gains. Radiated heat from the engine compartment has to play aprt in this also. The tube have to stay at least the same as the inlet air From what I gather most of the testing has been done in California and I have not seen a lot of data. I would like to see some dyno testing here in Florida. Then some road testing on the highway and see what the cai inlet temps are and temps after mass flow meter especially when your sucking in road temps that get to 120degf. A 30deg swing in ambient temp can really effect the out come. I know that I may be nit picking but I truly believe that HP gains are going to be erratic from one part of the country to the other. 1 don't have a clue as to what that would be but I would guess that it could be as much as a 5HP spread.

What is does air temp at the throttle body need to be to produce 18 hp gains consistantly?

Let me kown if I am on the wrong track with any thing or has my engineering been getting in the way and just old nit picking. Working on Jet engines we were always trying to squeeze the most thrust at any conditions. Wether it was at sea level or altitude.

MightyBobo 12-31-2009 07:26 AM

What does that have to do with the group buy for the Berk exhaust system, Billy?

370Zsteve 12-31-2009 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy830 (Post 349772)
I think that the data supplied for dyno test is suspect to me. After 23 years in aero space and calibrating orifice plates, venturis and other flow devices. the outside ambient air temperature or the air getting to the filter is the controlling factor in how much hp is to be gained. The colder the outside air temperature air density increases so volume increases and greater HP gains.
The hotter the ouside air temp density decreases and less HP gains. Radiated heat from the engine compartment has to play aprt in this also. The tube have to stay at least the same as the inlet air From what I gather most of the testing has been done in California and I have not seen a lot of data. I would like to see some dyno testing here in Florida. Then some road testing on the highway and see what the cai inlet temps are and temps after mass flow meter especially when your sucking in road temps that get to 120degf. A 30deg swing in ambient temp can really effect the out come. I know that I may be nit picking but I truly believe that HP gains are going to be erratic from one part of the country to the other. 1 don't have a clue as to what that would be but I would guess that it could be as much as a 5HP spread.

What is does air temp at the throttle body need to be to produce 18 hp gains consistantly?

Let me kown if I am on the wrong track with any thing or has my engineering been getting in the way and just old nit picking. Working on Jet engines we were always trying to squeeze the most thrust at any conditions. Wether it was at sea level or altitude.

Considering this is a thread for an exhaust, ya I'd say you are on the "wrong track". :gtfo2:

FuszNissan 12-31-2009 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 349967)
What does that have to do with the group buy for the Berk exhaust system, Billy?

:iagree::wtf2:

Shift 12-31-2009 07:43 AM

Need update

Billy830 12-31-2009 08:38 AM

Sorry I posted it in the wrong area, my bad.

theDreamer 12-31-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shift (Post 349983)
Need update

:iagree:

roplusbee 12-31-2009 10:29 PM

Awww. I was thinking, "yes an update." Oh well.

370Zsteve 01-01-2010 08:14 AM

There is another thread that has updates:

http://www.the370z.com/group-buys/12...st-gb-2-a.html

theDreamer 01-11-2010 03:50 PM

Bump!

Shift 01-15-2010 05:16 PM

Hey Berk it's Mid January what gives??? :mad:

MightyBobo 01-15-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shift (Post 362124)
Hey Berk it's Mid January what gives??? :mad:

Company they outsourced their tips to apparently didnt get em right still.

Shift 01-24-2010 09:46 AM

I got a PM from Mike yesterday. For the frist GB shipping date is Mid February. The people who are paid in full will be shipped first. :twocents: :twocents:

theDreamer 01-24-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Shift (Post 372586)
I got a PM from Mike yesterday. For the frist GB shipping date is Mid February. The people who are paid in full will be shipped first. :twocents: :twocents:

Yep, glad I paid in full the first day I paid, do not have to worry about. :D

theDreamer 02-03-2010 03:53 PM

:excited:

azn370z 02-03-2010 04:07 PM

I drove into a parking garage and I could not hear my exhaust. :( I was next to a Aston Martin and I could hear his exhaust as he slowly drove away. Now I'm looking Forward to get my exhaust soon.

theDreamer 02-03-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 386784)
I drove into a parking garage and I could not hear my exhaust. :( I was next to a Aston Martin and I could hear his exhaust as he slowly drove away. Now I'm looking to get my exhaust soon.

Same here, my car is fully broken in (12k) and I can definitely tell the car is screaming to be opened up but those screams are muffled by such a weak exhaust systems. :(

suede102 02-03-2010 05:51 PM

So would you guys say that berk makes a way better product then stillen or is pretty much the same?

dlmartin81 02-10-2010 05:05 PM

BERK - What is this exhaust going to retail for? I may be looking to buy come this summer or spring (hopefully). Also, it might be helpful to update your website with the new exhaust system. ;)

Shift 02-11-2010 01:08 PM

No worries by the time Berk starts to ship the exhaust it will be spring, make that summer.

spearfish25 02-11-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by suede102 (Post 386903)
So would you guys say that berk makes a way better product then stillen or is pretty much the same?

No one except Minicobra has the exhaust to tell you. The HFC are all pretty much equivalent though.

MightyBobo 02-11-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by suede102 (Post 386903)
So would you guys say that berk makes a way better product then stillen or is pretty much the same?

Almost all exhaust systems are personal preference...

dlmartin81 02-12-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shift (Post 397743)
No worries by the time Berk starts to ship the exhaust it will be spring, make that summer.

Right, but then that would mean that the non-GB'ers will have to wait longer to purchase (at retail price) because the first couple batches will be going to the GB'ers.

So, who knows when the rest of the public can purchase and at what price?

Shift 02-12-2010 03:56 PM

Well I was the first to get in on the GB an I can tell you I have no idea when They will ship.

M.Bonanni 02-12-2010 05:08 PM

The first batch is due to arrive at Berk next week and then Berk will promptly start doing their in-house adjustments to the tip alignment and start sending them out. The first batch will cover almost everyone on both GBs. The second batch, will cover the last few GB2 buyers and have plenty left over for dealers stock orders and customer orders. That batch is due to arrive in April.

Shift 02-13-2010 10:14 AM

Thanks for the update Mike, the last update direct from Berk said end off February. I guess once again it got moved back. What can you do but wait........

MightyBobo 02-13-2010 10:32 AM

IMHO, I'd rather see a company delay something repeatedly than to rush something out the door. It was obvious they had issues with the company making their tips - they didnt hide it. So rather than release the product with issues, they are ensuring we are getting a quality product the first time. Not the 2nd or 3rd...

M.Bonanni 02-13-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shift (Post 400167)
Thanks for the update Mike, the last update direct from Berk said end off February. I guess once again it got moved back. What can you do but wait........

These exhaust should start shipping end of February just as we last said. They get the systems third week in February and they will immediately start making their adjustments and sending them out.

B1nks 02-13-2010 01:36 PM

sweet, I'm number 2 on the list !

Shift 02-13-2010 07:02 PM

I agree Mighty, but don't you think Berk should have choose a company that would build to there spec, an QC standards? Not saying they took the cheaper way about it.

With that said ,who's to say that the test part wasn't just what Berk wanted. Just they couldn't do it on a mass production base. Either way I'm glad I'll own the system, even If I have to wait for it. I'll know there won't be any fittment problems.

370Zsteve 02-13-2010 07:32 PM

Easy now. It's a couple of weeks away. Time to celebrate! :happynewyear:

theDreamer 02-13-2010 07:33 PM

That is to long, I want it now.

370Zsteve 02-13-2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 400583)
That is to long, I want it now.

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theDreamer 02-13-2010 07:38 PM

:mad::mad::mad::mad:
I want my exhaust.

370Zsteve 02-13-2010 07:46 PM

Have you paid in full yet :ughdance: I have :tup:

theDreamer 02-13-2010 07:47 PM

I paid in full the day my name was on the list. :D

370Zsteve 02-13-2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 400601)
I paid in full the day my name was on the list. :D

ROFL imma :owned:


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