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newls196 11-10-2016 05:57 PM

Z1 ported intake, worth it??
 
Thinking about doing their ported intake before I give the car to them for dyno tuning... Is it worth it to spend 275 on this ported manifold? Any actual gains?

Mysilverz 11-11-2016 12:58 AM

Not based on my experience. Search the forums, you'll see.

synolimit 11-11-2016 02:31 AM

All is needed.

newls196 11-11-2016 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 3576733)
All is needed.

what do you mean by that sir?

jchammond 11-11-2016 06:34 AM

I'm planning to have mine done after i install the Z1 header's,,,i recently upgraded the Z1 cai to a high-flow design & want to maximize before re-tune.
It's about moving air in & out of the engine-minimizing restriction....as currently my stock exhaust manifolds/header's are holding it back.

jchammond 11-11-2016 06:47 AM

I know there are 2 shops in the southeast, that have performed this & shown Dyno results...I'm thinking it helps mostly on the top side of the rpm range.
I'm guessing that it depends on what current mods you have will differ in gains/losses...that would suck to lose power after a mid....biggest thing I lost after mods is traction...lol

madeinjapan 11-11-2016 07:08 AM

motordyne huge gains

jrb55gh 11-11-2016 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3576747)
I'm planning to have mine done after i install the Z1 header's,,,i recently upgraded the Z1 cai to a high-flow design & want to maximize before re-tune.
It's about moving air in & out of the engine-minimizing restriction....as currently my stock exhaust manifolds/header's are holding it back.

How is your Z1 cai upgraded?

jchammond 11-11-2016 07:34 AM

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...dd5175516d.png
Like this...and a very noticeable difference.


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jchammond 11-11-2016 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madeinjapan (Post 3576755)
motordyne huge gains

What kinda gain's did you get? i've heard that it's more power through the mid-range...but that is only what i've heard.,,
SOHO Motorsports report's 13whp gain above 7k rpm's...less hp/tq below/but that is with long tube header's & 3" exhaust.
3" exhaust will help for TT application-but seem's too large for N/A

madeinjapan 11-11-2016 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3576792)
What kinda gain's did you get? i've heard that it's more power through the mid-range...but that is only what i've heard.,,
SOHO Motorsports report's 13whp gain above 7k rpm's...less hp/tq below/but that is with long tube header's & 3" exhaust.
3" exhaust will help for TT application-but seem's too large for N/A

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3576793)
Don't pay any attention to him. He usually doesn't know what he's talking about and never bothers to read content before posting. He doesn't even have the motordyne intake manifold :shakes head:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...psx8tiqaur.jpg

madeinjapan 11-11-2016 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3576822)
I searched your build thread for "motordyne". No results :twocents:

page 2 and 5 :tiphat:

madeinjapan 11-11-2016 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3576834)
Still no search results for the word "motordyne". Also, your build thread is only 3 pages long :twocents:

6 :tiphat:

madeinjapan 11-11-2016 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3576842)
On your screen maybe. Not everyone uses the default posts per page setting.

:twocents::twocents::twocents::twocents::twocents:

madeinjapan 11-11-2016 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3576850)
I was just pointing out, yet again :icon14:, how worthless your response was :ugh2:

anywhere that he has the motordyne intake manifold

white37014 11-11-2016 10:53 AM

From a tuner himself he said it all depends on your setup, I personally watched a dyno that the motordyne intake manifold made less power than the OEM manifold. All depends on your exact set up.

madeinjapan 11-11-2016 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3576853)

you said that ?

nismolucino 11-11-2016 11:33 AM

Can we stop derailing this thread? I have ported upper and lower and gained power through the whole power band.

newls196 11-11-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nismolucino (Post 3576938)
Can we stop derailing this thread? I have ported upper and lower and gained power through the whole power band.

thank you... those 2 posters above need to take that crap and go to someones elses thread

madeinjapan 11-11-2016 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3576792)
What kinda gain's did you get? i've heard that it's more power through the mid-range...but that is only what i've heard.,,
SOHO Motorsports report's 13whp gain above 7k rpm's...less hp/tq below/but that is with long tube header's & 3" exhaust.
3" exhaust will help for TT application-but seem's too large for N/A

true biggest gains r from 4500-5500

install instructions are horrible

Nithmo 11-11-2016 12:37 PM

Isn't it necessary to piece the intake manifold with the lower portion too, to see any real gains? I thought there is a second, lower manifold component available from Z1 to pair with their manifold. Sold separately, but really, should be together from what I gather.

Nithmo 11-11-2016 12:47 PM

Yeah, this thing:

https://www.z1motorsports.com/z1-pro...hr-p-8835.html



They even say the following right in the ad:
Quote:

In order to maximize the potential of the higher flowing Z1 modified VQ35HR intake manifold, we recommend several other basic upgrades as well as custom tuning at Z1 Motorsports.

Btalont 11-11-2016 01:13 PM

1 Attachment(s)
I did the full Z1 kit, ported upper and lower, headers (which I ceramic coated), cat delete and the cold air intake. Had an ecuteck tune done by Jtran. Ended up with 326 hp at the wheels with stock NISMO exhaust Dyno chart attached.

JC-Nismo 11-11-2016 01:41 PM

Talk to ZGirl, she recently got the Z1 400hp kit installed on her Nismo and she can have some real life recent opinions of the install and performance gains.

synolimit 11-12-2016 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newls196 (Post 3576744)
what do you mean by that sir?

Lower, upper, TB's, good intakes.

synolimit 11-12-2016 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white37014 (Post 3576921)
From a tuner himself he said it all depends on your setup, I personally watched a dyno that the motordyne intake manifold made less power than the OEM manifold. All depends on your exact set up.

It should technically. Motordyne is just an HR upper. Longer runners should make more low end but less up top than a short runner mani. Should be as simple as that. HR is a good 2" longer on each runner. So what it really depends on is what kind of power you want and where you want that power at for whatever it is you're building for.

jchammond 11-12-2016 04:36 AM

I want mine on the top side (5-5500 & up)

synolimit 11-12-2016 04:59 AM

Then you need to stay OEM.

jrb55gh 11-12-2016 08:21 AM

The following link pretty well explains the advantages of the M370 (350HR) intake manifold.

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...tml#post819715

I made a DIY 350HR and can definitely feel the extra area under the power curve when using the stock 7AT 7300rpm shift point. If you are revving higher to shift, the low rpm gains are less useful.

chuckie311 11-12-2016 10:35 AM

if you want top end power stay with OEM..the VQ35HR(m370) is great for mid-range if thats where you want it..seriously though if you can cut plastic with dremel you can save yourself a ton of money on the M370 and do it yourself.
everyone of my dynos i made more power on the top end with the stock plenum..

First Dyno with Following Mods
Berk HFC Stillen Gen 3 Ark Exhaust


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...311_112738.jpg

Uprev tuned with Following
Berk HFC Stillen Gen 3 Ark Exhaust VQ35HR manifold

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ie311/dyno.jpg

Ported stock plenum with ecutek tune
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...IMG_2406_1.jpg

Gelato_Z 12-13-2018 06:29 PM

Yerrr
 
Is it worth getting upt intake manifolds on a completely stock car?

Spooler 12-13-2018 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gelato_Z (Post 3806104)
Is it worth getting upt intake manifolds on a completely stock car?

I would say no, get an exhaust first. If you are worried about your noise level, get a factory Nismo exhaust that someone has replaced.

Quicksilvers 12-13-2018 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gelato_Z (Post 3806104)
Is it worth getting upt intake manifolds on a completely stock car?

I would say no it’s not worth it. To gain 8-14 whp for all the labor and coin spent to install the Z1 ported intake manifold is not really worth it from what I have seen. I agree with Spooler start with your exhaust first.

JLarson 12-14-2018 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilvers (Post 3806133)
I would say no it’s not worth it. To gain 8-14 whp for all the labor and coin spent to install the Z1 ported intake manifold is not really worth it from what I have seen. I agree with Spooler start with your exhaust first.

It's actually pretty cheap/easy to install this part, personally I thought it was worth it - especially if you can get it on sale. Edit: Only applies to the Z1 mani, didn't think the M370 was worth the cost.

Elmo370z 12-15-2018 01:59 AM

my buddy hand ports them. Friend of mine two different dyno made 360whp with PPe cbe and his manifold. I picked up 14whp in parts of the powerband untuned.


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