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Zsteve 11-27-2009 04:54 PM

After researching and all, I have found that almost all aftermarket exhausts will have the 2K drone and that is the only time I am getting it, when around 60 mph in "D" mode at around 2k rpms. When with the wife who likes to talk while I drive its noticable but when its just me and Im usually on the gas I get that nice deep growl I like. And when Im driving at that one point it does drone I usually have the stereo up load and dont hear it. Just when the wife is with me that its a little loud. Now I willsay I love the tone of this exhaust better than any other one I heard on here so far and there are gains. Just wondering if I can cut down on the 2K drone some. Also I have the 7AT which might make a diff with the drone. So going to 18s will or wont help with this?

Zsteve 11-27-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by imag (Post 297667)
Look at it this way - you're making those of us who went with Stillen feel better about it :rolleyes:

So Stillen doesnt drone any?

m4a1mustang 11-27-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by imag (Post 297667)
Look at it this way - you're making those of us who went with Stillen feel better about it :rolleyes:

That's fine. I just make sure to be honest when giving feedback. I love the sound of my FI CBE and don't regret getting it. Yes, there is some drone at 2k but the benefit far outweighs the cost. I have heard the Stillen setup and some others and they all sound raspy to me... the only one with absolutely ZERO rasp is FI... it puts the others to shame, IMO.

If you like it, that's great. That's all that matters.

I can't count how many times I have said how much I like this exhaust, yet people continue to rag on me for talking about drone. It's ridiculous and plain childish!

m4a1mustang 11-27-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 297727)
After researching and all, I have found that almost all aftermarket exhausts will have the 2K drone and that is the only time I am getting it, when around 60 mph in "D" mode at around 2k rpms. When with the wife who likes to talk while I drive its noticable but when its just me and Im usually on the gas I get that nice deep growl I like. And when Im driving at that one point it does drone I usually have the stereo up load and dont hear it. Just when the wife is with me that its a little loud. Now I willsay I love the tone of this exhaust better than any other one I heard on here so far and there are gains. Just wondering if I can cut down on the 2K drone some. Also I have the 7AT which might make a diff with the drone. So going to 18s will or wont help with this?

We'd have to ask Tony about the difference the resonators would make.

I am the same way as you. My girlfriend has sensitive hearing so not just the drone, but the volume alone bothers her on any extended trips.

When I am by myself I am not bothered. It's there, but it's not a real bother. The ECU whine cuts through the drone and pierces my ears anyways. That's the only thing in the car noise-wise that bothers me. Actually it kills me.

imag 11-27-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 297738)
So Stillen doesnt drone any?

Not that I can tell. It sounds better, but noticeably louder, at low RPMs.

Zsteve 11-27-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 297756)
We'd have to ask Tony about the difference the resonators would make.

I am the same way as you. My girlfriend has sensitive hearing so not just the drone, but the volume alone bothers her on any extended trips.

When I am by myself I am not bothered. It's there, but it's not a real bother. The ECU whine cuts through the drone and pierces my ears anyways. That's the only thing in the car noise-wise that bothers me. Actually it kills me.

So far no ECU noise for me that I can hear but I have slight hearing loss at the 6K freq anyway.

Modshack 11-27-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 297738)
So Stillen doesnt drone any?


No drone from the Stillen..

Matt 11-27-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 297685)
My fear with Stillen, and potentially the future Berk CBE, is that it won't be loud enough. If I have to deal with a little drone to get the tone of the FI, so be it.

How aggressive is the stillen? From the look of the muffler design, I wouldn't guess it's too loud at all, just a little throatier than stock.

I'm looking hard at FI and Berk right now.

:confused:

Zsteve 11-27-2009 06:48 PM

Was doing some research and read that side branch resonators seemed to help the drone by getting the freqs 180 degrees out of phase with each other that end up canceling each other. Is that why the Saclam exhaust looks the way it does? I was wondering if adding something like that would help reduce it but keep the same tone.

Still, I love the tone of the exhaust so I guees the wife just cant ride in it as much, cuz when Im alone in it Im hardly ever at the 2K range for my style of driving (FAST).

After reading more into their exhaust it seems that the Saclam has added side pipes to help with drone.

m4a1mustang 11-27-2009 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 297870)
:confused:

I think the Stillen CBE alone sounds good, but if you throw HFCs on it really sounds like crap. Some CBEs get very raspy when you add HFCs and the Stillen is one of those.

Zsteve 11-27-2009 07:03 PM

So if add a side pipe would reduce drone even 50% what size diameter and length would be required? Looking for all the math/science guys on this one.

m4a1mustang 11-27-2009 07:12 PM

I think that would just end up being an epic waste of money. I thought the Saclam exhaust had cutouts to bypass the muffler anyways... i know nothing about side tube resonators... if they exist... and if they even work.

m4a1mustang 11-27-2009 07:15 PM

I know the situation you are in, too. A little bit of it is guilt because you don't like that your significant other no longer likes riding in the Z with you because of the exhaust. When she's in the car with you, you feel bad because you know she's bothered.

But when you are alone, you enjoy it.

Instead of wasting money, just let time pass and you will get over it and it will get better. Don't let the guilt get to you.

Yeah, it sucks that my car gives my girlfriend headaches.... but have you heard how f'ing awesome it sounds? Priorities. :)

Zsteve 11-27-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 297945)
I know the situation you are in, too. A little bit of it is guilt because you don't like that your significant other no longer likes riding in the Z with you because of the exhaust. When she's in the car with you, you feel bad because you know she's bothered.

But when you are alone, you enjoy it.

Instead of wasting money, just let time pass and you will get over it and it will get better. Don't let the guilt get to you.

Yeah, it sucks that my car gives my girlfriend headaches.... but have you heard how f'ing awesome it sounds? Priorities. :)

I agree and the wife isnt in it much but now Im just more curious about all this side branch stuff. Ive been googleing it alot and it seems the side branch pipes are a legit way of getting rid of low freq noise (its used in cars, buildings, plants, etc that have generators). I think the Saclam used what is called a trombone style side branch modified a tad. The thing you have to calculate is what freq is producing the drone and then calculate the right length of the side branch to get it to bounce back 180 degrees out of phase to cancel each other out. Sounds pretty interesting. And it would be easy to tap into existing exhaust if you get the right deminsions.

Curiousity has got my attention.

Matt 11-27-2009 07:54 PM

Does the Ark exhaust have the pipes you are talking about?


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