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BC416 02-26-2016 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by p3t3rc (Post 3423708)
I know.. I just paid a fortune for AC and fluid flush. :(


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Best advice I can give you is to check the local section here and find some people in LA or wherever it is you live. Being in SoCal, you'll have no short of Z groups to find. Check out some local meets and get a feel for the sounds of the exhaust. You can also find help with installs and pick other people's brains on certain things.

p3t3rc 02-26-2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3423710)
nooooo stay away from dealerships. also i dont think many would install aftermarket parts that essentially can void the warranty and are illegal per the states law.



installation is pretty simple aside from the dreaded nissan demon bolt.



if you add full exhaust and intakes a tune is a big help. it not only maximizes the power but typically those mods together tend to lean out the fuel mixture and could possibly cause an issue.


Nissan "demon" bolt?!? Lol I guess I'm going to be in for it.

Yeah I plan on doing a tune.. Need to start looking for a place in so cal.


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p3t3rc 02-26-2016 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3423711)
Best advice I can give you is to check the local section here and find some people in LA or wherever it is you live. Being in SoCal, you'll have no short of Z groups to find. Check out some local meets and get a feel for the sounds of the exhaust. You can also find help with installs and pick other people's brains on certain things.


I'll be sure to look into that. Thanks for the advice


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FPenvy 02-26-2016 02:27 PM

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Looking at the AAM system


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i'd go with an FI setup. sadly the current wait is 10-12 weeks but i've seen a few systems used pop up recently which helps you with saving some money.

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I'll have to look into that.. How much did yours cost if you don't mind me asking.


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my tune in general or the cable?

i think it was like $500 "used" for the tuner kit cable w/ the license on it. it was like 4 or 5 years ago so i could be wrong but it was around there.

FPenvy 02-26-2016 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by p3t3rc (Post 3423712)
Nissan "demon" bolt?!? Lol I guess I'm going to be in for it.

Yeah I plan on doing a tune.. Need to start looking for a place in so cal.


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each header to Cat is a tri flange so 3 bolts. top bolt on passenger side (for most) is the demon bolt. it's a total fuckin pain to get off.

i got an extra kick in the balls with the drivers top bolt being a pain as well.

p3t3rc 02-26-2016 02:30 PM

FP - I'll have to look into the tuner. I'll have my brother in law help me with the installation. Thanks for all the info!!


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FPenvy 02-26-2016 02:33 PM

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FP - I'll have to look into the tuner. I'll have my brother in law help me with the installation. Thanks for all the info!!


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most places where you go to get a tune sell you the license in the price of the tune itself.

i however was uneducated 3 weeks into owning my Z and bought a tuner kit w/ cable and the license when really i dont need it.

is it nice to have the ability to do datalogs, code checks and clears, etc....yea but i dont ever use it lol

it'll be $300 for the license and typically $300 for the dyno time and tune so ~$600 total for a dyno tune. unless you go ecutek over uprev then i'm not sure how that license is priced but dyno/labor should run the same.

p3t3rc 02-26-2016 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3423724)
most places where you go to get a tune sell you the license in the price of the tune itself.



i however was uneducated 3 weeks into owning my Z and bought a tuner kit w/ cable and the license when really i dont need it.



is it nice to have the ability to do datalogs, code checks and clears, etc....yea but i dont ever use it lol



it'll be $300 for the license and typically $300 for the dyno time and tune so ~$600 total for a dyno tune. unless you go ecutek over uprev then i'm not sure how that license is priced but dyno/labor should run the same.


I guess I'm in your shoes when you first started. I really appreciate all the info.. So with the initial tune they give me a license and I can go back as needed? Does that mean I just pay for labor in the future?


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FPenvy 02-26-2016 02:38 PM

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I guess I'm in your shoes when you first started. I really appreciate all the info.. So with the initial tune they give me a license and I can go back as needed? Does that mean I just pay for labor in the future?


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yea the license goes onto your ECU and stays. going back to a retune is different depending on your tuner. i would assume paying for the dyno time is all they'd ask but i am not experienced with ever having a retune done.

the license is yours once purchased.

also in the end i'm glad i bought my cable because the intakes i have are much larger than ones on the makret and required a whole new MAF mapping to get it to run. the company sent me the map, used the cable, drove the next day to my tuner lol thats a very odd situation though and wont happen to 99% of other people.

p3t3rc 02-26-2016 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3423732)
yea the license goes onto your ECU and stays. going back to a retune is different depending on your tuner. i would assume paying for the dyno time is all they'd ask but i am not experienced with ever having a retune done.



the license is yours once purchased.



also in the end i'm glad i bought my cable because the intakes i have are much larger than ones on the makret and required a whole new MAF mapping to get it to run. the company sent me the map, used the cable, drove the next day to my tuner lol thats a very odd situation though and wont happen to 99% of other people.


For the most part as I've said this is going to be it for a while.. So assuming that.. And getting a tune done correctly the first time around.. It might be moot to get a tuning cable right? Even if I did get it I don't know where I would start when using it. Lol


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FPenvy 02-26-2016 02:50 PM

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For the most part as I've said this is going to be it for a while.. So assuming that.. And getting a tune done correctly the first time around.. It might be moot to get a tuning cable right? Even if I did get it I don't know where I would start when using it. Lol


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yes it's pretty much pointless if the plan is to throw on exhaust and intakes, get tune, then wait awhile for boost.

just go get your exhaust first since the stock Z sounds super weak.
then go add intakes.
then get it tuned.

then :driving:

p3t3rc 02-26-2016 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3423738)
yes it's pretty much pointless if the plan is to throw on exhaust and intakes, get tune, then wait awhile for boost.



just go get your exhaust first since the stock Z sounds super weak.

then go add intakes.

then get it tuned.



then :driving:


So I have a confession.. Sometimes I can be an impulse buyer.. Soooo.. I already picked up the AAM system before asking the question.. I was just trying to figure out if I should swap out the Test Pipe for the HFC.. but from what it seems like I think I'll be alright with the Test Pipes.


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SS_Firehawk 02-26-2016 02:57 PM

So I have the AAM midpipe and short tail combo... Sounds amazing with the stock cats.
I added resonated test pipes and it is extremely loud. It gets a little rough between 3500 and 4500rpm and starts to clean up the sound afterwards. So this is just an FYI if you decide to run something similar.

Just like FP was saying, you'll make more power with TP's. Do yourself a favor and buy resonated if you do go that route. The power difference is 3-5whp at most.

I recommend you get the muffler option... If you're going for their older true dual design, you should be fine either way :)

SS_Firehawk 02-26-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by p3t3rc (Post 3423741)
So I have a confession.. Sometimes I can be an impulse buyer.. Soooo.. I already picked up the AAM system before asking the question.. I was just trying to figure out if I should swap out the Test Pipe for the HFC.. but from what it seems like I think I'll be alright with the Test Pipes.


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Which system and is it just a straight test pipe without resonators?

p3t3rc 02-26-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 3423744)
So I have the AAM midpipe and short tail combo... Sounds amazing with the stock cats.
I added resonated test pipes and it is extremely loud. It gets a little rough between 3500 and 4500rpm and starts to clean up the sound afterwards. So this is just an FYI if you decide to run something similar.

Just like FP was saying, you'll make more power with TP's. Do yourself a favor and buy resonated if you do go that route. The power difference is 3-5whp at most.

I recommend you get the muffler option... If you're going for their older true dual design, you should be fine either way :)


So I bought the AAM CAI, Test Pipes, and True Dual 3" pipes this morning.


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