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kdo2milger 12-10-2009 09:44 PM

:wtf2:

ah no vids yet!

B1nks 12-10-2009 10:12 PM

maybe tomorrow ?

F.I. Inc. 12-11-2009 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 316551)
Tony I played around with a sound editing software and came up with this, let me know if it's anything close to those long tubes :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7NfTDdeY5A

Similar but deeper. It is hard to explain, you will have to hear it for yourself once I get the videos up.

BRUSSO 12-11-2009 12:26 AM

Did I miss the post with the dyno numbers for the LTH with exhaust and stock intakes ?

F.I. Inc. 12-11-2009 12:32 AM

UPDATE-

I wanted to chime in with the current status of the R&D process. So as most of you know, I went back to the dyno today. The numbers were favorable and we did see an increase of torque and power. This was the first phase of the headers. We are going to tweak some things about the headers and dyno the car again next Tuesday or Wednesday. What were are trying to achieve is to make the highest gains across the board without having to tune the car. Once we feel that we have achieved that, we will dyno the car again with a re-tune. To this point I have to say I am overall pleased with the outcome. They have gains as I stated, they sound great and reduce the interior noise resonance and last but certainly not least, so far no CEL! As of right now I would rather not divulge too much information as to what we are doing. There will be no dyno charts posted or sound clips until I launch the LTH thread. I expect to do that once all of the testing is completed. I know alot of you are anxious and we appreciate all of your support. In addition, I know that you all understand that we have to make sure our testing is complete before we release too much information. If anyone has any questions, as I always say please do not hesitate to ask...

Thank you, Tony

kannibul 12-11-2009 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 317167)
UPDATE-

I wanted to chime in with the current status of the R&D process. So as most of you know, I went back to the dyno today. The numbers were favorable and we did see an increase of torque and power. This was the first phase of the headers. We are going to tweak some things about the headers and dyno the car again next Tuesday or Wednesday. What were are trying to achieve is to make the highest gains across the board without having to tune the car. Once we feel that we have achieved that, we will dyno the car again with a re-tune. To this point I have to say I am overall pleased with the outcome. They have gains as I stated, they sound great and reduce the interior noise resonance and last but certainly not least, so far no CEL! As of right now I would rather not divulge too much information as to what we are doing. There will be no dyno charts posted or sound clips until I launch the LTH thread. I expect to do that once all of the testing is completed. I know alot of you are anxious and we appreciate all of your support. In addition, I know that you all understand that we have to make sure our testing is complete before we release too much information. If anyone has any questions, as I always say please do not hesitate to ask...

Thank you, Tony

:leghump:

G37Sam 12-11-2009 03:19 AM

Sounds good Tony, let's hope their price doesn't double now coz of the added R&D time haha

TipsZ 12-11-2009 08:42 AM

Wow. How do the headers "reduce the interior noise resonance"?? Interesting indeed.

mr_desmo 12-11-2009 08:51 AM

Not surprised he doesnt post dynos...supersprint have been making those for the 03- 06 and 07 + 350z which with a full exhaust is worth TOGETHER 8whp....
Those are a little shorter tube then the fi...but with mines etc...you would think if longtubes really were worth any power they would at list sell them with all those years selling 350z parts! http://www.supersprint.com/public/images/26479.jpg

Caravanshaka 12-11-2009 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_desmo (Post 317333)
Not surprised he doesnt post dynos...supersprint have been making those for the 03- 06 and 07 + 350z which with a full exhaust is worth TOGETHER 8whp....
Those are a little shorter tube then the fi...but with mines etc...you would think if longtubes really were worth any power they would at list sell them with all those years selling 350z parts! http://www.supersprint.com/public/images/26479.jpg

those look like garbage compared to Tony's though. I doubt there was a lot of design time in that. But I could be wrong, and looks are objective :tup:

semtex 12-11-2009 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TipsZ (Post 317312)
Wow. How do the headers "reduce the interior noise resonance"?? Interesting indeed.

The Stillen headers did the same thing. I'm not surprised. It's because the stock manifold has unequal length tubing. When you replace those with equal length tubing, the smooths out the sound somewhat.

nogoodname 12-11-2009 09:13 AM

can fit quite a few of resonators in those super long LTH's

TipsZ 12-11-2009 09:23 AM

Thanks for the clarification Semtex. Do you have the stillen headers? Just curious to see which one performs better and which one sounds better. Granted I know that the gains will be minimal - however just like most of the folks here on the forum, I only want the best to fit on the Z. Ya digg?

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 317367)
The Stillen headers did the same thing. I'm not surprised. It's because the stock manifold has unequal length tubing. When you replace those with equal length tubing, the smooths out the sound somewhat.


Red370 12-11-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_desmo (Post 317333)
Not surprised he doesnt post dynos...supersprint have been making those for the 03- 06 and 07 + 350z which with a full exhaust is worth TOGETHER 8whp....
Those are a little shorter tube then the fi...but with mines etc...you would think if longtubes really were worth any power they would at list sell them with all those years selling 350z parts!

Well the fact that the Stillen headers by themselves make between 10-15hp, and the fact that these headers eliminate the cats which see gains of 10-15hp, leads me to believe that these headers should make substantial gains, probably closer to 20whp. My old Eclipse GT with the RIPP long tubes with a tune netted me 38whp, so I dont see why these wouldnt make quite a bit of juice. :tup:

kdo2milger 12-11-2009 10:21 AM

Tony thank you for the update!

i am impressed that you want to go the distance with this project to ensure the best possible gains across the board...

highly respectable and look forward to the results of the next phase :xmastup:

mr_desmo 12-11-2009 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 317351)
those look like garbage compared to Tony's though. I doubt there was a lot of design time in that. But I could be wrong, and looks are objective :tup:

Thsi picture may be inappropriate on a vendors thread but they are meant as a comparison as its the only longtubes on sale...

If you think supersprint stuff is garbage and tuned without some effort youre an idiot that live under a rock....they make headers and exhaust for some of the fastest:
-m5 m3
-ferraris going back from the old one to the california
-audis
etc....
Its probably the most known name in european exhaust systems. Very pricey yes; but doubting they put time to develop anything is just what it is. dumb.

kdo2milger 12-11-2009 12:19 PM

Hey no need for name calling desmo!

clean it up.

Keep this thread on track, Thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_desmo (Post 317738)
Thsi picture may be inappropriate on a vendors thread but they are meant as a comparison as its the only longtubes on sale...

If you think supersprint stuff is garbage and tuned without some effort youre an idiot that live under a rock....they make headers and exhaust for some of the fastest:
-m5 m3
-ferraris going back from the old one to the california
-audis
etc....
Its probably the most known name in european exhaust systems. Very pricey yes; but doubting they put time to develop anything is just what it is. dumb.


shumby 12-11-2009 12:22 PM

booo name calling.







I LIKE BOOBIES

phelan 12-11-2009 12:22 PM

I have a supersprint exhaust on my audi...pretty nice stuff.

ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC:

:drool:

RCZ 12-11-2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 317367)
The Stillen headers did the same thing. I'm not surprised. It's because the stock manifold has unequal length tubing. When you replace those with equal length tubing, the smooths out the sound somewhat.

Are you sure the stockers are UL? This being a V6...UL headers cause pulse crams that negatively affect performance. I would think Nissan put EL headers from the start, I was under that impression.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 317418)
Well the fact that the Stillen headers by themselves make between 10-15hp, and the fact that these headers eliminate the cats which see gains of 10-15hp, leads me to believe that these headers should make substantial gains, probably closer to 20whp. My old Eclipse GT with the RIPP long tubes with a tune netted me 38whp, so I dont see why these wouldnt make quite a bit of juice. :tup:

Stillen headers did not make 10-15hp. I'm not even looking for more than 5whp from the FI, I'm only looking for how much torque they will pickup...since thats apparently LTH's claim to fame.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 317500)
Tony thank you for the update!

i am impressed that you want to go the distance with this project to ensure the best possible gains across the board...

highly respectable and look forward to the results of the next phase :xmastup:

Highly respectable that he does research on a product he is developing? come on, he is doing what he is supposed to do.

Caravanshaka 12-11-2009 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_desmo (Post 317738)
Thsi picture may be inappropriate on a vendors thread but they are meant as a comparison as its the only longtubes on sale...

If you think supersprint stuff is garbage and tuned without some effort youre an idiot that live under a rock....they make headers and exhaust for some of the fastest:
-m5 m3
-ferraris going back from the old one to the california
-audis
etc....
Its probably the most known name in european exhaust systems. Very pricey yes; but doubting they put time to develop anything is just what it is. dumb.

Just sayin' what it looks like man. You can call me an idiot if you want, doesn't phase me one bit...I don't own an M5, M3, ferrair, or an audi, so I don't do research on their exhausts.

Tonys headers look like much higher quality materials and welds, and he's built a reputation with the Z communitywith his knowledge, customer service, and that stupid grin that everyone gets when they first get his part on their car...until I see Supersprint doing the same for the Z, I wouldn't touch'em.

shumby 12-11-2009 12:27 PM

^^^^ well arnt you debbie downer.



sorry this is at RCZ not you caravan

Caravanshaka 12-11-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shumby (Post 317759)
^^^^ well arnt you debbie downer.



sorry this is at RCZ not you caravan

I thought it was debbie does dallas?

KillerBee370 12-11-2009 12:37 PM

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kdo2milger 12-11-2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 317779)
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Trips 12-11-2009 02:50 PM

yuk! yuk! yuk! ^^

semtex 12-11-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 317754)
Are you sure the stockers are UL? This being a V6...UL headers cause pulse crams that negatively affect performance. I would think Nissan put EL headers from the start, I was under that impression.

I'm ~fairly~ certain. I seem to recall getting that from Josh, but it's been so long I can't say I'm 100% on this. So take it with a grain of salt, I guess. If the stockers are EL, then I'm not sure what the advantage of aftermarket headers would be, at least in terms of regular-length ones. I don't think they're wider diameter piping, are they?

RCZ 12-12-2009 01:47 PM

Much better flow. Thats the thing with our car though... it comes stock with great flowing headers that look a lot more like aftermarket headers than usual. If Josh told you that, he's probably right.

I'm not really a debbie-downer, I'm just allergic to *** kissing unless it involves a girl. Im not saying any of you are, but I've never seen people so excited over headers before. I don't really care, but really guys? better than Megan Fox?

semtex 12-12-2009 02:02 PM

Who's Megan Fox?


I kid, I kid! :rolleyes:

G37Sam 12-12-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 319327)
I'm not really a debbie-downer, I'm just allergic to *** kissing unless it involves a girl. Im not saying any of you are, but I've never seen people so excited over headers before. I don't really care, but really guys? better than Megan Fox?

See that's the thing, say one was lucky enough to shag her.. he'll wake up the next morning she's gone in her limo to film her new movie and she probably wouldn't even recognize him if she every bumped into him again Long tube headers on the other hand, will make one and his Z wet their pants everytime you push down on that pedal... EVERY SINGLE TIME!! haha

Here's the better part, I've been following VQ37 news for almost 2 years now, I still haven't seen perfected headers, let alone LONG TUBES! I know for a fact when Fast Intentions put their hands in something they focking perfect it! You can go ahead and call me an azz kisser, brown nose, leg humper, nut hugger, FI whore or whatever.. But fact remains, no one has even come close to the quality of FI products.

Maybe it's just my opinion but I believe there's a thread with more than 2600 posts of people who'd agree with me :tiphat:

Can you still blame us for the excitement? :happydance:

SOLISIMO 12-12-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 319898)
See that's the thing, say one was lucky enough to shag her.. he'll wake up the next morning she's gone in her limo to film her new movie and she probably wouldn't even recognize him if she every bumped into him again Long tube headers on the other hand, will make one and his Z wet their pants everytime you push down on that pedal... EVERY SINGLE TIME!! haha

Here's the better part, I've been following VQ37 news for almost 2 years now, I still haven't seen perfected headers, let alone LONG TUBES! I know for a fact when Fast Intentions put their hands in something they focking perfect it! You can go ahead and call me an azz kisser, brown nose, leg humper, nut hugger, FI whore or whatever.. But fact remains, no one has even come close to the quality of FI products.

Maybe it's just my opinion but I believe there's a thread with more than 2600 posts of people who'd agree with me :tiphat:

Can you still blame us for the excitement? :happydance:

its ok sam , he's s stillen :nutswinger: we know they did their research:rolleyes: several times too:ugh2:

F.I. Inc. 12-12-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 319898)
See that's the thing, say one was lucky enough to shag her.. he'll wake up the next morning she's gone in her limo to film her new movie and she probably wouldn't even recognize him if she every bumped into him again Long tube headers on the other hand, will make one and his Z wet their pants everytime you push down on that pedal... EVERY SINGLE TIME!! haha

Here's the better part, I've been following VQ37 news for almost 2 years now, I still haven't seen perfected headers, let alone LONG TUBES! I know for a fact when Fast Intentions put their hands in something they focking perfect it! You can go ahead and call me an azz kisser, brown nose, leg humper, nut hugger, FI whore or whatever.. But fact remains, no one has even come close to the quality of FI products.

Maybe it's just my opinion but I believe there's a thread with more than 2600 posts of people who'd agree with me :tiphat:

Can you still blame us for the excitement? :happydance:

You have got a point about the Megan Fox thing. BUT IT WOULD BE ONE HELL OF A NIGHT!!!

We are flattered for the support and kind words.

We will ALWAYS do our best to give all of you the most superior product possible.

I think when people say things great or bad, you have to take it all with a grain of salt!

kdo2milger 12-12-2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 320262)
You have got a point about the Megan Fox thing. BUT IT WOULD BE ONE HELL OF A NIGHT!!!

We are flattered for the support and kind words.

We will ALWAYS do our best to give all of you the most superior product possible.

I think when people say things great or bad, you have to take it all with a grain of salt!

:shakes head:

megan fox ftw! :rock:

ofcourse sloppy seconds on F.I. LTHs is no laughing matter :yum:

SOLISIMO 12-13-2009 06:58 AM

Sunday morning bump :)

shumby 12-13-2009 07:34 AM

mmmmmm LTH bump

dainedazz 12-13-2009 09:15 AM

@ the haters, lmao. i personally have faith in f.i :) btw Tony, my cbe is still sexy as usual lol F.I ftw :) Megan Fox ftw :)

dainedazz 12-13-2009 09:15 AM

in for the dyno results this week!

F.I. Inc. 12-13-2009 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dainedazz (Post 321106)
in for the dyno results this week!

We should have dyno results by Wednesday evening.

shumby 12-13-2009 11:34 AM

wooot woooot for dyno




boooo boooooo to RCZ

Valentino 12-13-2009 02:10 PM

Hello Tony,

can you please see what's the weight deference of the stock and the LTH headers?


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