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37Z 05-05-2010 06:54 PM

rotor weight (f/r)
 
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Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 526173)
Yes the weight difference is night and day when it comes to responsiveness.



Yes, we do offer a fixed/ solid mount design as well as the full floating....

PM sent....

What is the rotor hats made out of -(front and rear)? Is the rear hat designed for the parking brake?
What is the inside/outside diameter of the rotors?
Can you get the rotors without slots or cross-drilled holes?
Are are the floating rotors attached to the hats? Do they need to be wired to prevent the bolts from loosening?

10:1 dead/unsprung weight seams overstated IMHO. Were did you come up with this ratio?

Scott @ RA 05-05-2010 11:34 PM

^^ I'm pretty sure all these questions are answered in the first couple posts, please read it again carefully for your answers ... Here you go anyways....


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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 526230)
What is the rotor hats made out of -(front and rear)?

Both front and rear rotor hats are made of 7074 Aircraft grade billet aluminum, then is hard anodized

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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 526230)
Is the rear hat designed for the parking brake?

Yes, it is and works great

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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 526230)
What is the inside/outside diameter of the rotors?

The front is 14" OD, 8" ID The rear is 13.8" OD with a 8.378 ID

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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 526230)
Can you get the rotors without slots or cross-drilled holes?

Sure, if that is what you want

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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 526230)
Are are the floating rotors attached to the hats?

The rotors are attached to the hats with aircraft grade stainless steel alen bolts, T-Locks, and locking fasteners

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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 526230)
Do they need to be wired to prevent the bolts from loosening?

No need for wire tieing

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Originally Posted by 37Z (Post 526230)
10:1 dead/unsprung weight seams overstated IMHO. Were did you come up with this ratio?

Well first off we are dealing with rotating & unspring weight here, not just unsprung and not just rotating. The ratio is approximately 3 to 1 for unsprung weight vs static weight and approximately 10 to 1 rotating weight, like I stated.
Most 18-19+ wheels depending on where the mass is on the wheel (moment of ratio), is about 10 to 1 (as a rule of thumb) static weight vs rotating wheel weight. That rule of thumb of 10 to 1 has been used by racers for decades. Since these rotors do not carry the same mass in the same area as a wheel does (moment of ratio/ inertia) but is further in twords the axis point, it is a close ratio estimate to say 8.9 to 1 or so.
Using this approximate ratio, it is safe to say that adding these light weight rotors as apposed to the stock Akebono's is roughly 26+ pounds lighter (static weight). Multiply that by the estimated 8.9 to 1 as that of static weight and you get about 231 pounds.... 26 lbs x 8.9 = 231.4 lbs that the car should/ will react lighter to acceleration, braking, and corner G loads.

That my friends is a sizable advantage, to say the least. ;)

2009Black 05-06-2010 09:30 PM

A suggestion. Perhaps if you split the package up and let people purchase fronts only at 50-60% of the cost (whatever you deem appropriate) it might be more palatable. I'm not really interested in replacing my rears (especially not at that package price). But for half the price the benefits of replacing the fronts is very tempting.

Scott @ RA 05-07-2010 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 2009Black (Post 527987)
A suggestion. Perhaps if you split the package up and let people purchase fronts only at 50-60% of the cost (whatever you deem appropriate) it might be more palatable. I'm not really interested in replacing my rears (especially not at that package price). But for half the price the benefits of replacing the fronts is very tempting.

No problem...... We can/will sell just the fronts. The pricing for the front pair of 2-piece floating rotors with all necessary hardware is $899 (the rears are actually more complicated and more expensive to make)

Vegitto-kun 05-07-2010 04:58 AM

I want them badly but yeah finances arent good enough at the moment :(

Scott @ RA 05-07-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 528261)
I want them badly but yeah finances arent good enough at the moment :(

I definitely understand that..... I am sure most of us are feeling the pain of a struggling economy. :shakes head:

Q8y_drifter 05-10-2010 05:10 AM

Just curious, are you a vendor on myg37.com? just trying to get the word out since not many people over there even know these exist...

Scott @ RA 05-11-2010 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter (Post 531365)
Just curious, are you a vendor on myg37.com? just trying to get the word out since not many people over there even know these exist...

No, I am not a vendor on myG37 (or any Internet Brands owned forums). I try to avoid any greedy and corrupt forums that not only allow, but encourage ridiculous child-like drama and witch hunts.

But please feel free to spread the word and let people know that these rotors exist and are the best and ONLY front and rear light weight two piece rotor option available for the popular Akebono brake kits... Thanks

shumby 05-11-2010 04:21 AM

hey Scott. I have been trying and talking to the admins on Our VQ on your behalf. Matbe they will change their minds.

sig11 05-11-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 532754)
No, I am not a vendor on myG37 (or any Internet Brands owned forums). I try to avoid any greedy and corrupt forums that not only allow, but encourage ridiculous child-like drama and witch hunts.

I think I love you, Scott. :P

Scott @ RA 05-12-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sig11 (Post 532889)
I think I love you, Scott. :P

LOL haha :tiphat: Thanks.

But why is that... should I be a little creep'd out or??? :ugh2:

sig11 05-12-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 535159)
LOL haha :tiphat: Thanks.

But why is that... should I be a little creep'd out or??? :ugh2:

Those IB boards bother me too. Most people don't even notice how... weird they are. Only reason I still visit my350z is the Detroit Z community.

Scott @ RA 05-12-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sig11 (Post 535375)
Those IB boards bother me too. Most people don't even notice how... weird they are. Only reason I still visit my350z is the Detroit Z community.

Cool, well on that note, I am sure ANYONE who visits that retarded "my350z" forum can see just why I despise that forum... I mean I haven't had a membership on that forum in like 2-3 years and I'm still one of their biggest childish topics... Rumors, hearsay, lies, and corruptness rules that forum... :shakes head:

Scott @ RA 05-18-2010 05:34 AM

PM's answered

gpa7pk 05-28-2010 09:49 PM

Scott of RA told me my 2 piece rotors are coming soon. Even though the group buy didn't go as expected he is honoring my order. I found out in conversation with him, he is very particular with what he ships out. My left side rotors were not as he wanted and they are being made again. I will let the forum know how the rotors turn out. As a blatant plug, he will still sell a set (front/rear) for the group buy price. Hoping to get his rotors on some Z's that will see a little track time.


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