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NewYorkJon34 09-30-2009 08:45 PM

Will Stillen Supercharger & G3 intakes Connect?
 
I am interested in the Stillen S/C but since they are apparently still being quiet, my build plans have become a total mess and I'm still undecided. I'd like to order the G3's but have no idea if it would be a waste of money if they don't connect. If someone knows any info or if someone from stillen could comment, that would be great.

LiquidZ 09-30-2009 09:24 PM

If you are serious about any FI, don't get any intake mods. If you just so happen to buy the intakes, I don't think it would be hard at all to resell them.

NewYorkJon34 09-30-2009 09:46 PM

Ya I think if I did buy the intakes, stillen is going to pull some bs and say they will not connect, i really wish stillen would chime in. What stuff should I get to start preping the car for the S/C?

Red370 09-30-2009 11:29 PM

2.5-2.75" true dual CBE, HFC's, Big Brake kit (I highly recommend Rotora, loved em on my G), Polyurethane motor mount bushings, a good set of coilovers (HKS's are the shyt, im a fan of the Tein Pro series also), wider rear tires (you'll need em), Sway bars (loved my Hotchkiss's) these, and not necessarily in that order, should set you up nicely for a Supercharger. Long tube headers even, when they come out that is.

NewYorkJon34 09-30-2009 11:57 PM

I want to get the F.I. Headers when they come out, I did not know motor mounts were out for our cars, what's the advantage of installing those vs. stock?

LiquidZ 10-01-2009 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 218847)
I want to get the F.I. Headers when they come out, I did not know motor mounts were out for our cars, what's the advantage of installing those vs. stock?

My take is this:

Under load, your engine will "rotate" in the engine bay. Aftermarket mounts will limit this movement. Essentially, torque is lost during this rotation and if it is limited through the use of aftermarket motor mounts, more torque will be available at the rear wheels. In addition, I wouldn't say you are going to get super torque numbers at the wheels either. Lastly, aftermarket motor mounts are than likely a little stronger than the stock units.

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

NewYorkJon34 10-01-2009 07:03 AM

Are there any aftermarket companys that offer them for the 370Z?

LiquidZ 10-01-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 218928)
Are there any aftermarket companys that offer them for the 370Z?

I haven't seen any yet.

nogoodname 10-01-2009 09:11 AM

for sure LT headers and F.I catback would be a good thing to have....
hold off on the intakes...

as for BBK's, the stock sport ones are good enough...... tons of TT'ed G's kept the sport ones and it does the job well....
just change the rotors to slotted ones

Red370 10-01-2009 10:40 AM

4 piston brakes are ok for street use, however if you plan on tracking, they are prevalent to fade quick. 6POTs are the bare minimum for prolonged track use.

NewYorkJon34 10-01-2009 01:27 PM

I don't plan on tracking or changing the brakes, if anything I am going to switch to slotted rotors. Since F.I. Is the only company that's going to offer LT headers at the moment, I don't think I have any other choices. Anyone else notice that stillen has not commented on this forum in awhile? :(

LiquidZ 10-01-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 219129)
I don't plan on tracking or changing the brakes, if anything I am going to switch to slotted rotors. Since F.I. Is the only company that's going to offer LT headers at the moment, I don't think I have any other choices. Anyone else notice that stillen has not commented on this forum in awhile? :(

That means they are busy!

LUVZTTZ 10-01-2009 04:26 PM

We should know soon enough. Go to stillen's website and check out the blog post from Kyle about the Open House. Looks like they were shooting for Oct. 17th, but things got delayed. Should be before May according to the post. It better be before Halloween!

STILLEN Open House Postponed – May 2010 : STILLEN

JoeD 10-02-2009 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 219046)
4 piston brakes are ok for street use, however if you plan on tracking, they are prevalent to fade quick. 6POTs are the bare minimum for prolonged track use.

The number of pistons in a brake-caliper has absolutely nothing to do with fade resistance.

Red370 10-02-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 219731)
The number of pistons in a brake-caliper has absolutely nothing to do with fade resistance.

this is true, good pads make or break your brakes, i got that, however, more pistons equal more clamping power distributed over the rotor, which is great for late braking.

jmlenz 10-12-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 218715)
I am interested in the Stillen S/C but since they are apparently still being quiet, my build plans have become a total mess and I'm still undecided. I'd like to order the G3's but have no idea if it would be a waste of money if they don't connect. If someone knows any info or if someone from stillen could comment, that would be great.

Im thinking there will be a .001% the G3s will be compatible with the SC kit. In fact I cant think of a single SC kit ever that was compatible with the NA intake.

NewYorkJon34 10-12-2009 10:25 PM

^Ya, that's why I'm waiting for Stillen to release some info.

2fast4thelaw 10-30-2009 12:50 PM

Everything I have read on here report that Headers reduce torque on the 370. The gains in hp are very nominal and in my opinion are not wort the cost and hassle of installation.

If you have the Sport package with the 14" brakes, i dont see how these brakes are inadequate in anyway.

The exhaust and intake upgrades are a definite improvment in sound and in power. I installed the Stillen G3 intake, HFC's, and CBE and it was well worth it.
I was informed from Stillen that the plan is to be able to utilize the G3 intake in conjuction with the supercharger. They are still planning to use the eaton roots type blower but a low profile version to allow lower clearance.

Kyle@STILLEN 10-30-2009 12:58 PM

If you plan on getting our supercharger then I would recommend holding off on the intakes or the headers. Also don't bother getting an aftermarket tuner as the kit will come with one. Also, the kit will be designed to work with the factory tuning, any modifications to your factory ECU will only complicate the installation.

Reasons:

Intake- Obviously there are going to be a lot of changes made to the intake system of the car. I know that our VQ35 supercharger worked with a lot of aftermarket intakes but there is no guarantee that the Gen. 3's will work, most likely they won't.

Headers- On the VQ35 we found that the headers resulted in a one psi drop of boost. Wait for us to test them before purchasing and installing headers or intakes.

Other parts of the car to prepare in the mean time:

Exhaust
High flow cats
suspension
brakes
body work
wheels and tires

2fast4thelaw 10-30-2009 01:07 PM

Kyle: If I cant use my G3 intake with the Stillen supercharger what are my options:

Will there be an intake system provided with the Stillen supercharger?

Or will I have to put the stock intke back in. (this wouldnt make sense)

Kyle@STILLEN 10-30-2009 02:56 PM

It's too early to really say what the options are because the kit is not completed. If the Gen. 3 intakes do not work then the factory intakes won't work either. Which means that the kit will have to come with an intake.

Keep in mind that if you add an intake today, you will definitely be able to sell it down the line when the s/c becomes available.

ZCarMan 10-30-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 259252)
If you plan on getting our supercharger then I would recommend holding off on the intakes or the headers. Also don't bother getting an aftermarket tuner as the kit will come with one. Also, the kit will be designed to work with the factory tuning, any modifications to your factory ECU will only complicate the installation.

Reasons:

Intake- Obviously there are going to be a lot of changes made to the intake system of the car. I know that our VQ35 supercharger worked with a lot of aftermarket intakes but there is no guarantee that the Gen. 3's will work, most likely they won't.

Headers- On the VQ35 we found that the headers resulted in a one psi drop of boost. Wait for us to test them before purchasing and installing headers or intakes.

Other parts of the car to prepare in the mean time:

Exhaust
High flow cats
suspension
brakes
body work
wheels and tires

Good gouge!

Mike 10-30-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 259708)
Good gouge!

Navy guy?

NewYorkJon34 10-31-2009 12:09 AM

Thanks Kyle for providing the info I've been looking for, I can't wait to see the new intake manifold, as well as the Price/Hp & Tq numbers.


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