Lol good to know I think I will have you beat there on the build though.

Its ok, either way we will both be enjoying our cars ;)

I can't wait to hear more. We have a car @ Baker Tuning currently getting the motor built from GTM so maybe results soon.

Did not know the GTR was 9:1 thanks. Should have just googled it.

Yeah man we can have a foot race to 550whp :tup:

For sure, I'll be keeping updates in my Journal. I'm going to take my time & buy EVERYTHING I need, then it's install time :driving:

I should be getting built this year. Not sure when, but when my 3" down pipes and external waste gates come in I will be turning up the boost. Not to mention I will be going from a 6psi spring to a 7psi spring. So I will be running a little higher hp numbers at all times. If I lower the compression when building the block I will need to replace those stock springs most likely again with something like 8 or 9psi, I think. I will have to talk with Sam about this.

Lol some people need to google more and do more research, where's Alberto when you need him lmfao...

Did sam ever post the power packages with price like he said?I can't remember what thread it was he said he was going to post it in but I figured here would be just as good

Look at the website

his website is tricky thanks though.

It's not that tricky, what kinda package are you looking for?

Do you know what we really need to make 600 hp reliably?

GTM Stage 1 shortblock

And there goes my point from what previous posts said you will need more then that. From previous posts by Sam he said there would need to be some valve work. Not sure if he said valves and springs or just tougher springs. Also I Don't need a short block mailed out to me. Why not just buy the pistons and rods and assemble your self. Also I think the short blocks don't show for the vq37 but for the vq35. So I still stand behind my statement that his website is tricky

Call Sam. He will explain it all. He will give you correct and accurate information. Tell him your goal and he will tell you what you need.

lol already did this a while ago and he said he would send some packages over to me. I am not in a dire rush but plan on doing this in the winter and want to know what to expect. I think everyone knows me by now that if I want something I am going to call him if I need it. Hell i did spend like 12 k with GTM so I am not bashfull to talk to him. Was just wondering if he posted it becausae if he did then I don't need to call him

lol better yet...ill talk to you on aim :tup:

This produces 600HP without forced induction?

oo heck no its capable of supporting up to 600. Only way your getting to 600 is FI

The shortblock packages show for the 370z, it's just the VQ motors are similar so the site just shows what's available. You'll be saving money just buying the stg.1 block & it's more then just pistons/rods in this package. Why send the motor out to a random shop to get assembled & balanced, when you know there will be less of a chance for something to go wrong if Sam/GTM builds their product for you.

I think short block and fuel system upgrade, maybe Sam can answer for us.

Like others have said what is required will determine on your goals. If your looking sub 600rwhp then pistons and rods is just fine no need for valve work. If your going over 600rwhp I would reccomend getting valve work done. It's as simple as that and remember fuel system upgrades where needed.

As of 6-1-11

I have 1k saved up for this rebuild. By the end of summer I should have enough lol.

In the same position. I'd like to get the parts I need ordered ASAP! I spoke to a local shop about this issue but it didn't really get me anywhere. I was told I needed a full short block, valve work, new fuel pump, oil pump, head gaskets. Studs, valve work, and would be in for a $15k + job..

Seeing as though I'm currently running at 540whp, I find that hard to believe. I know the common answer is to call and speak to sam, but sam is very busy and doesn't always get around to sending out packages to everyone who asks. (not a bash at sam in any way, Just saying that he has a lot on his plate!)

I also only see the vq35 shortblock on the GTM website, so if anyone can shed some light on this, please do!

The vq37 shortblock is on the gtm site. This is the route I plan on doing, but I just want to make sure by ordering the shortblock is going to give me the reliability aspect I want pushing 500whp with the stg.2 sc.

Stage 1: $3660.91 Your Basic Short Block With Forged Internals
Stage 2: $6400.00 Your Basic Short Block With Forged Internals and Sleeved
Stage 3: $6995.00 A High Revving 3.8L Short Block With Forged Internals
Stage 4: $8990.00 A 4.2L Basic Short Block With Forged Internals and Sleeved
Stage 5: $8919.48 A High Revving 4.2L Short Block With Forged Internals
Stage 6: $10967.48 A High Revving 4.5L Sleeved Short Block With Forged Internals

Remember There will be more costs involved than just the Block... That is why some of us say Call Sam... I would say fully installed stage 1 Short Block will run you around $8-9k...

And that was my whole point. Everyone just says buy the short block. Guess what gentlemen you need more then just a short block. I told sam I was aiming for 600 rwhp to give me room to grow. Looking at my estimate there was alot more on there then what you guys think. But then again sam said there was multiple ways I could go about it. I want the best, and most reliable way so will buy the extra **** to make it like that

That's exactly the price Sam told me when I inquired him about a simple build. I think I need to call him again soon to find out what's included and what is being done.

That also depends on the shop installing it too. 8-9k seems a bit high, no?

Sam should be posting today on what else is needed, but 600whp is a lot different than achieving 500whp safely.

No not really and tbh I think mike is a little off on his numbers. Unless you are going the cheapest way possible. Fast, Reliable, Cheap. Pick two because you cant have all three

EDIT: And what the hell is this **** where is my premium membership

500 safetly sam is going to try and talk you out of building the motor. He is going to tell you it's not needed ATM and why fix it if it isn't broken. Can't you tell I just went through this with him lol

He didn't tell me to buy the shortblock, that was my idea cus I don't want to worry about something since it's my daily driver.

IDK man lol. I guess he has a valid point why fix it if it isn't broken. I am just going to up my power to justify the cost of it. Thats why I am going for 600. I think it is kind of fullish to buy a short block and pay all that money to just have the power your car is making now. Unless your just wanting to throw money at the car to make the sentence below your name true :ugh2:

Lol, ya well if I buy the shortblock, I could run the 13-14psi and have 550whp no prob. So it would be money spent. I'm just gonna wait to see what Sam posts

4.5L stroker would be intense.. Did someone post 400/300 pre FI? :icon17:

Damn me for jinxing myself.

:bowrofl: the life of modding!

Too funny man. :roflpuke2: