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ROBERT1183 10-21-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3007367)
no, I will tho can't see that from work

yeah my job does that too. bastards!!!! lol its on aam competitions fb page

tonyHTX 10-21-2014 02:08 PM

^ I saw the video awhile back, that's how I stalked you! The only thing I'm sad about is no traditional BOV on the system. While I understand the benefits and purpose of the CRV, the BOV salute automatically adds +10 cool points to street cred. HAHA

ROBERT1183 10-21-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3007455)
^ I saw the video awhile back, that's how I stalked you! The only thing I'm sad about is no traditional BOV on the system. While I understand the benefits and purpose of the CRV, the BOV salute automatically adds +10 cool points to street cred. HAHA

hahaha yeah I hear ya but when shifting between gears you can hear it. not so much when reving at idle :driving:

tonyHTX 10-21-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ROBERT1183 (Post 3007646)
hahaha yeah I hear ya but when shifting between gears you can hear it. not so much when reving at idle :driving:

Looks like the Turbosmart Shortie Kompact Series has a Dual Port BOV (50% Atmospheric and 50% CRV) that is supposed to work with the EFRs. It looks to be taller than the CRV that comes included though so clearance may or may not be an issue. Maybe you can have a look when you get it on the lift? Or maybe Max might be able to give some insight?

Could be an option for those that want a little bit of both worlds.

ANMVQ 10-22-2014 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3007773)
Looks like the Turbosmart Shortie Kompact Series has a Dual Port BOV (50% Atmospheric and 50% CRV) that is supposed to work with the EFRs. It looks to be taller than the CRV that comes included though so clearance may or may not be an issue. Maybe you can have a look when you get it on the lift? Or maybe Max might be able to give some insight?

Could be an option for those that want a little bit of both worlds.

great BPV I had this on my Stillen SC sounded super!

FPenvy 10-22-2014 08:08 AM

I wonder if the gfb's BOVs most people use on the GTR's would work with this setup?

quick twist and it can be adjusted for how much recirculation or how much vent to atmosphere can be done whenever you want. ell when stopped since its a manual change lol

Patrick@AAMComp 10-22-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3007773)
Looks like the Turbosmart Shortie Kompact Series has a Dual Port BOV (50% Atmospheric and 50% CRV) that is supposed to work with the EFRs. It looks to be taller than the CRV that comes included though so clearance may or may not be an issue. Maybe you can have a look when you get it on the lift? Or maybe Max might be able to give some insight?

Could be an option for those that want a little bit of both worlds.

http://s30.postimg.org/6imfhvtbl/Blockoff.png

Borg Warner actually makes a disabling cover plate that can be installed to seal off the CRV.

ROBERT1183 10-22-2014 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason@AAMComp (Post 3008301)
http://s30.postimg.org/6imfhvtbl/Blockoff.png

Borg Warner actually makes a disabling cover plate that can be installed to seal off the CRV.

Doesn't affect anything but make the blow off louder right?

Patrick@AAMComp 10-22-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ROBERT1183 (Post 3008338)
Doesn't affect anything but make the blow off louder right?

The disabling cover plate seals the recirculating port and an external BOV would have to be installed. Flanges would need to be welded in for the external BOVs. The CRV is designed to keep the MAF happy and assists in keeping the turbos spooled in between gears. :driving: Does that help?

ROBERT1183 10-22-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason@AAMComp (Post 3008301)
http://s30.postimg.org/6imfhvtbl/Blockoff.png

Borg Warner actually makes a disabling cover plate that can be installed to seal off the CRV.

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Originally Posted by Jason@AAMComp (Post 3008424)
The disabling cover plate seals the recirculating port and an external BOV would have to be installed. Flanges would need to be welded in for the external BOVs. The CRV is designed to keep the MAF happy and assists in keeping the turbos spooled in between gears. :driving: Does that help?

yes that does,

tonyHTX 10-22-2014 12:56 PM

^ That's why I suggested the 50/50 dual port bov. I think one can get a little bit of both worlds using it. Also seems like it would be a little less of a hassle than putting in the disabling cover and getting flanges welded on.

Jason, do you think there is not enough clearance for the dual port bov - is that why you suggest using the disabling cover?

Patrick@AAMComp 10-22-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3008600)
^ That's why I suggested the 50/50 dual port bov. I think one can get a little bit of both worlds using it. Also seems like it would be a little less of a hassle than putting in the disabling cover and getting flanges welded on.

Jason, do you think there is not enough clearance for the dual port bov - is that why you suggest using the disabling cover?

http://s12.postimg.org/bflpkmql9/201...2_16_26_15.jpg

As you can see there isn't a lot of room to work with. Without having something like the Kompact Shortie on hand to test fit, we really can't tell at this time.

We do know the disabling kit will fit for those looking to go with BOVs. :)

kayha12 10-22-2014 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3008600)
^ That's why I suggested the 50/50 dual port bov. I think one can get a little bit of both worlds using it. Also seems like it would be a little less of a hassle than putting in the disabling cover and getting flanges welded on.

Jason, do you think there is not enough clearance for the dual port bov - is that why you suggest using the disabling cover?

There might be some confusion here. The turbos AAM use have essentially a "built in" blow off valve for better lack of term. In order to run a traditional blow off valve, you would have to first disable/block the pre-existing one on the BW turbos, at which you can cut the intecooler piping, weld a BOV flange on, and mount whatever BOV you want to go with from there.

Sort of like turbos that have internal wastegatee. In order to go external, you first need to disable the internal gate, by some bracket, or welding it shut, then you figure out where to mount your external, mount it, and so forth, you get the idea.

tonyHTX 10-22-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kayha12 (Post 3008812)
There might be some confusion here. The turbos AAM use have essentially a "built in" blow off valve for better lack of term. In order to run a traditional blow off valve, you would have to first disable/block the pre-existing one on the BW turbos, at which you can cut the intecooler piping, weld a BOV flange on, and mount whatever BOV you want to go with from there.

Sort of like turbos that have internal wastegatee. In order to go external, you first need to disable the internal gate, by some bracket, or welding it shut, then you figure out where to mount your external, mount it, and so forth, you get the idea.

Oh no confusion, per the description the Kompact Shortie I am talking about says:
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Originally Posted by http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/kompact-dual-port-shortie
Turbosmart Shortie Kompact Series valves have been specifically designed to suit BorgWarner EFR and KKK turbos.

Designed as a bolt-on replacement of the factory valve on all BorgWarner EFR, KKK and Ecoboost turbos, the Kompact Shortie Dual Port provides better boost response and greater boost handling capability.

The main difference is that the Kompact Shortie can be set to 100% CRV or 50% CRV and 50% atmospheric.

I kind of think it won't fit seeing Jason's picture though - the disabling cover and cutting/welding flanges on may be the way to go.

aamc@AAMComp 10-23-2014 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3007773)
Looks like the Turbosmart Shortie Kompact Series has a Dual Port BOV (50% Atmospheric and 50% CRV) that is supposed to work with the EFRs. It looks to be taller than the CRV that comes included though so clearance may or may not be an issue. Maybe you can have a look when you get it on the lift? Or maybe Max might be able to give some insight?

Could be an option for those that want a little bit of both worlds.

Just to clear a few things up on this as I don't want there to be any confusion.

There is no way that fit, at least i'm 95% sure it would not. As shown in Jason's picture (thanks Jason) space is limited and it would be too long/tall.

If you wanted to utilize a traditional BOV you would need to install the BorgWarner block off plate (previously mentioned) and could then install any BOV of your choice (hopefully something of high quality) in the upper intercooler piping.

Most of what I just said was previously mentioned but I just wanted to make sure there was no confusion on this topic.

I can try to get some audio of the integrated BorgWarner CRV so you can hear what it sounds like. It's definitely noticeable but not to the audible level of a traditional BOV.


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