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Drew303 07-17-2014 11:00 AM

A question for all with FI
 
A quick question for all of those with FI. How many of you still have loans on your Z? I still owe on mine but am definitely looking into FI so just trying to get a feel for how other people did it.

JWillis72 07-17-2014 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew303 (Post 2899122)
A quick question for all of those with FI. How many of you still have loans on your Z? I still owe on mine but am definitely looking into FI so just trying to get a feel for how other people did it.


I added a supercharger 3 months after buying mine, with the money I've spent I could have paid in off but with interest of 1.75% who cares.

blackonorange 07-17-2014 11:07 AM

I owed when I first went fi. I don't anymore. The main scare is the motor popping right? Well you can get fully built blocks now for around 6g. Or a stock long block for as little as 3g. Worst case Ontario your motor pops and you gotta pay another 3g ( plus labour of course) to get your car back on the road. On the other hand I know a couple people have gone into the red trying to boost these cars....

DIGItonium 07-17-2014 11:18 AM

Ditto. I already had at least $10k saved up and that I wasn't in a hurry to get my own pad at the time. After experiencing all this I'd rather pay off my car and use the time to plan things out. I'm only saying this because I've been through it all and already experienced the amazement of owning a force fed Z. :)

I understand... it's unbearable to wait.

ANMVQ 07-17-2014 11:38 AM

I did on my SC , an now have a loan on my sedan and looking at the FI kit, Motor pops you can get a build short block for under 3k that will take 650 WHP. only reason I'm thinking about it again after my other motor blowing :/

VQ37 Engine Short Block Packages - Nissan 370z/Infiniti G37 - Import Parts Pro

Drew303 07-17-2014 11:52 AM

wow are motors blowing up that common?!?

JWillis72 07-17-2014 12:03 PM

I wouldn't say common but it has happened to several members here.

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...lew-motor.html

Ill 07-17-2014 12:14 PM

I still have a loan on mine.

Popping the motor isn't incredibly common, but it is always something to keep in the back of your mind. If you don;t push the stock internals too far and don't beat the piss out of the car everyday, it should last for awhile.

Always be prepared though, plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Arrvaxx 07-17-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 2899128)
I added a supercharger 3 months after buying mine, with the money I've spent I could have paid in off but with interest of 1.75% who cares.

I've got so much sunk in to the car that a new motor wouldn't make the top 10 cost items. :driving:

theDreamer 07-17-2014 01:15 PM

I would say the majority of people usually still have a loan out on the car because for the low interest rate they take their money elsewhere and get a higher return than stuffing into paying a car off in a short time.
This also has the other side of people taking the cash and getting a FI kit and now investing more into a car. I myself had less than a year with my Z and threw a SC on it, having the loan was not a big deal.

ANMVQ 07-17-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew303 (Post 2899191)
wow are motors blowing up that common?!?

like said above no, But there are few of us that the "bad" happen. Mine was a combo of faulty install issues, if you do it just a very knowable shop and tuner do the work, I can tell you the next one I do, I'm leaving the state. I don't trust anyone in the state I'm in :/

jwick 07-17-2014 01:37 PM

I owned my out right prior to installing the turbo kit. I actually believed I was done modding (full NA bolt-ons and some suspension work). After I got the title I realized it was investing $12-13k in the car to make it awesome or think about trading in for something else. The turbo was a lot cheaper than me getting into a car of similar performance level.

To each his own but do take note, FI is not cheap!

DIGItonium 07-17-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2899300)
To each his own but do take note, FI is not cheap!

Rather not have "cheap" FI either. :ugh2:

jwick 07-17-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2899301)
Rather not have "cheap" FI either. :ugh2:

:iagree:

You do it right, or don't bother to do it at all. Boosting a factory NA car is no place to cut corners!

When are you bringing that beast down to JTrans?

Arrvaxx 07-17-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2899309)
:iagree:

You do it right, or don't bother to do it at all. Boosting a factory NA car is no place to cut corners!

When are you bringing that beast down to JTrans?

What he said. :iagree:

Rid3_FaM0uS 07-17-2014 02:02 PM

I twined mine after 9 months of financing it. The car is still currently eating my wallet in more ways than one. But to answer your question I am FI and still paying for the car so I guess you can chalk me up on the "guilty" list :shakes head:

Chuy 07-17-2014 03:19 PM

I could of paid my baby girl off if I had not went FI

JWillis72 07-17-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuy (Post 2899391)
I could of paid my baby girl off if I had not went FI


Me too but she wouldn't be nearly as fun.


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TopgunZ 07-17-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 2899172)
I did on my SC , an now have a loan on my sedan and looking at the FI kit, Motor pops you can get a build short block for under 3k that will take 650 WHP. only reason I'm thinking about it again after my other motor blowing :/

VQ37 Engine Short Block Packages - Nissan 370z/Infiniti G37 - Import Parts Pro

You will never get by with spending 3K for a built bottom end. You have to send yours in to get that $750 deposit returned. It costs that alone to yank your motor so consider it $3750. You have to pay for shipping a 150lb block that is $200. You have to buy new studs $500 you have to buy a new head gasket $250 you have to pay someone to pull your motor out, pull heads off, build longblock, re-install. $1500-$2000.

Under 3K???? You be dreamin'

However, I am FI. I blew my motor just recently and am going for a stock block again. The whole thing will cost me under $2000. Yes I wont be able to put down 650+ but I saved myself $4K by not going built block. Plus I will be driving my car again in a week or so. Had I gone built then Id be looking at 3 months probably.

Another thing to add is that if your motor lets go it can ruin the whole thing and not just the bottom end. So now your looking at adding another big amount to cost.

ZKraken22 07-17-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 2899516)
You will never get by with spending 3K for a built bottom end. You have to send yours in to get that $750 deposit returned. It costs that alone to yank your motor so consider it $3750. You have to pay for shipping a 150lb block that is $200. You have to buy new studs $500 you have to buy a new head gasket $250 you have to pay someone to pull your motor out, pull heads off, build longblock, re-install. $1500-$2000.

Under 3K???? You be dreamin'

However, I am FI. I blew my motor just recently and am going for a stock block again. The whole thing will cost me under $2000. Yes I wont be able to put down 650+ but I saved myself $4K by not going built block. Plus I will be driving my car again in a week or so. Had I gone built then Id be looking at 3 months probably.

Another thing to add is that if your motor lets go it can ruin the whole thing and not just the bottom end. So now your looking at adding another big amount to cost.

Well you need to aim that comment to the company advertising 3750 stage one build. And two if you live in Houston or close to it you don't have to ship anything.

TopgunZ 07-17-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 2899583)
Well you need to aim that comment to the company advertising 3750 stage one build. And two if you live in Houston or close to it you don't have to ship anything.

If their s1 build is priced for complete breakdown and install then by all means Id love to. And unfortunately houston is in one state of 50.

TopgunZ 07-17-2014 08:05 PM

The best advice that can be given is if your gonna go, go for reliability. This means spending the extra money and time on the install.

I cheaped out on the fuel system and it cost me an engine.

nomodsjk 07-17-2014 09:18 PM

Pull the trigger and don't look back! You know you want to! Lol I'll play devil's advocate and tell you what you want to hear. You won't regret it

DIGItonium 07-17-2014 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2899309)
:iagree:

You do it right, or don't bother to do it at all. Boosting a factory NA car is no place to cut corners!

When are you bringing that beast down to JTrans?

Not sure yet. I've got so much on my plate since I moved into my new home it's difficult to fund this project. I've found someone who might take it off my hands though. If not, I'll hang on for as long as I can till I clear my plate.

jwick 07-17-2014 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk (Post 2899707)
Pull the trigger and don't look back! You know you want to! Lol I'll play devil's advocate and tell you what you want to hear. You won't regret it

:iagree:

even though I check over the kit every night just to make sure tonight wasn't the night it developed an oil leak, or a vacuum line came off, etc. and you always have that outside chance of ponying up for a new motor. when that turbo spools up, instant smile, best feeling.

(damn it...every time I need the 'push a dude off the cliff' smilie, I remember the mods haven't made it yet)... I highly recommend it! :tup:

Rid3_FaM0uS 07-18-2014 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 2899516)
You will never get by with spending 3K for a built bottom end. You have to send yours in to get that $750 deposit returned. It costs that alone to yank your motor so consider it $3750. You have to pay for shipping a 150lb block that is $200. You have to buy new studs $500 you have to buy a new head gasket $250 you have to pay someone to pull your motor out, pull heads off, build longblock, re-install. $1500-$2000.

Under 3K???? You be dreamin'

However, I am FI. I blew my motor just recently and am going for a stock block again. The whole thing will cost me under $2000. Yes I wont be able to put down 650+ but I saved myself $4K by not going built block. Plus I will be driving my car again in a week or so. Had I gone built then Id be looking at 3 months probably.

Another thing to add is that if your motor lets go it can ruin the whole thing and not just the bottom end. So now your looking at adding another big amount to cost.


Unfortunately Topgun; Im about to show the community otherwise:stirthepot:, so I would have to disagree with you. My forged short block + long block reassembly total cost me less than what its going to cost me to buy two brand new PTE 6262s.

ANMVQ 07-18-2014 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 2899516)
You will never get by with spending 3K for a built bottom end. You have to send yours in to get that $750 deposit returned. It costs that alone to yank your motor so consider it $3750. You have to pay for shipping a 150lb block that is $200. You have to buy new studs $500 you have to buy a new head gasket $250 you have to pay someone to pull your motor out, pull heads off, build longblock, re-install. $1500-$2000.

Under 3K???? You be dreamin'

However, I am FI. I blew my motor just recently and am going for a stock block again. The whole thing will cost me under $2000. Yes I wont be able to put down 650+ but I saved myself $4K by not going built block. Plus I will be driving my car again in a week or so. Had I gone built then Id be looking at 3 months probably.

Another thing to add is that if your motor lets go it can ruin the whole thing and not just the bottom end. So now your looking at adding another big amount to cost.

I said get as in buy the short block for that, Install is a different matter, What he or she installs it themselves? Was just saying the "block" was that price we all know other things go into it but just costing 10-12k that's all.

And when mine went it was just the bottom end, Cyl 3 Rod.

TopgunZ 07-18-2014 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rid3_FaM0uS (Post 2899919)
Unfortunately Topgun; Im about to show the community otherwise:stirthepot:, so I would have to disagree with you. My forged short block + long block reassembly total cost me less than what its going to cost me to buy two brand new PTE 6262s.

Well I would actually love to be proved wrong. Its not too late for me to go the built block route. If I could do this for an economical price then I'd be all ears.

Just saying that I examined the idea of a built block and it seemed it was going to cost me 3 times as much.

Ridefamous, You must do your own work judging by your profile pic. That saves TONS of money. Most people are not capable of doing such feats as an engine swap. I could if I had the equipment and time but...I don't.

I PM'd you.

Nixlimited 07-18-2014 10:48 AM

I owned my car outright before going FI.

tibal 07-18-2014 10:58 AM

FI w/ loan still on the car.. Almost paid off, thennn I will turn up the boost :tup:

jlo370z 07-19-2014 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2899300)
I owned my out right prior to installing the turbo kit. I actually believed I was done modding (full NA bolt-ons and some suspension work). After I got the title I realized it was investing $12-13k in the car to make it awesome or think about trading in for something else. The turbo was a lot cheaper than me getting into a car of similar performance level.



To each his own but do take note, FI is not cheap!


Same here


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Rid3_FaM0uS 07-19-2014 11:46 AM

Yes in your defense Top I do in fact do ALL of my work. Engine removal tear down and reassembly. BUT for those people whom have atleast the means to at least pull the motor and even if they have the know how to tear the long block down to a shortblock you have just saved yourself THOUSANDS of dollars in labor costs. Buy all of your internals personally and take your short block and parts to a shop and have them do the removal and re assembly.

showme99 07-21-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 2899653)
The best advice that can be given is if your gonna go, go for reliability. This means spending the extra money and time on the install.

I cheaped out on the fuel system and it cost me an engine.

I'm confused. Doesn't the BP turbo kit come with fuel upgrades? Or do you have to supply your own?

TopgunZ 07-21-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by showme99 (Post 2903052)
I'm confused. Doesn't the BP turbo kit come with fuel upgrades? Or do you have to supply your own?

It does. But it doesn't come with a return system like I needed since I was running E85 and shooting for big numbers.

showme99 07-21-2014 04:52 PM

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

R3drckt09 07-21-2014 06:06 PM

Got my GTM SC running great and I still owe the majority of the cars value lol, I guess it's still pretty early to tell if that was a good decision though. Sure feels like it when I hit the gas.


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