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ANMVQ 07-10-2014 07:22 AM

An gauges I went the same as above prosport, I had all three oil , trans temp and boost plus AEM wideband

Nism0 07-10-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 2890335)
No way will you only see 8psi with the impeller. I had the Stillen Stock pully (8psi) and the impeller upgrade from Vortch same as the 928 and was seeing 11-12 PSI. I had no other mods the the SC or differnt pulley. I have a thread on hear all about my run at 500 WHP. Name of thread is Stillen500 WHP. You will need a new tune because you wil see more PSI.

btw 500 WHP on their kit will not happen :( just be happy with mid 400's .

So by putting the cats back on I will see 11psi? And I've been reading other peoples experience with this kit. Not that I would ever go over 500whp (I have no intentions of building my motor) but why will 500hp not happen on this kit? It seems to have a lot of potential with some modifications...

Arrvaxx 07-10-2014 08:23 PM

Looking forward to the day all 40th's are boosted! Welcome to the club!

Nism0 07-10-2014 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrvaxx (Post 2891413)
Looking forward to the day all 40th's are boosted! Welcome to the club!

Thank you sir! :tiphat:

Arrvaxx 07-10-2014 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nism0 (Post 2891423)
Thank you sir! :tiphat:

Just saw the 'Red dome'...hahah. Me too! My daughter hates it and the local guys say it is like I am a pimp! But screw both...I love it. Hate bright lights inside the car. I even keep the dash dim. And love the Stillen front...good choice. I'm going to start a 'Boosted 40th's Going to ZdayZ '15' thread...right now. Hope you will join us.

Nism0 07-10-2014 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrvaxx (Post 2891440)
Just saw the 'Red dome'...hahah. Me too! My daughter hates it and the local guys say it is like I am a pimp! But screw both...I love it. Hate bright lights inside the car. I even keep the dash dim. And love the Stillen front...good choice. I'm going to start a 'Boosted 40th's Going to ZdayZ '15' thread...right now. Hope you will join us.

I like the blue better cause I can actually see in my car, but it didn't fit the theme of the 40th lol. I would LOVE to go to ZdayZ. Give me a link to the thread!!

Nissan370 07-11-2014 01:40 PM

i have a set of used 750cc injectors for sale for $425 bucks i upgraded to i.d 1000cc injectors. so pm if your interested

AJ 370ZSC 07-22-2014 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN (Post 2877187)
1slow370 is correct. The stock cats will last longer than HFC's and are also more durable. They are very unlikely to break apart. We have seen HFC's blow out and clog the exhaust. I would not be concerned with the stock cats breaking up and sending pieces into the engine. The exhaust gases are coming out so fast I don't even know if that would be possible.

You are going to lose almost 1 lb of boost in the actual cylinder from using test pipes so you'd probably get back 20 whp from going back to stock cats (though I see you are on an upgraded blower which we have not tested). There is a chance with the upgraded blower the boost would be too high in the cylinders but I couldn't not say without testing.

@Nism0 If you are piecing parts together for the kit, might as well go with some 725-750cc injectors.

i have the stillen cats on now, the best bet would be to go OEM cats then? this means i will lose HP and TQ correct? and the exhaust will be quieter?

Team_STILLEN 07-22-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AJ 370ZSC (Post 2904365)
i have the stillen cats on now, the best bet would be to go OEM cats then? this means i will lose HP and TQ correct? and the exhaust will be quieter?

You will actually gain HP back with the Stock Cats over the HFC's or Test Pipes. The exhaust will be a little quieter.

ANMVQ 07-22-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nism0 (Post 2891408)
So by putting the cats back on I will see 11psi? And I've been reading other peoples experience with this kit. Not that I would ever go over 500whp (I have no intentions of building my motor) but why will 500hp not happen on this kit? It seems to have a lot of potential with some modifications...

I would like to say yes, because I did. I only had the Impeller upgrade ( Vortec one) and went from 9PSI to 11-12 PSI. I never saw 8PSI the kit out of the box and custom tune I was seeing 9PSI all day long, Made the Impeller upgrade ( with a handful of supporting fuel mods) and saw 11PSI. I tried to reach 500WHP and fell 43 WHP short:ugh2:

Always had the Stock cats, Just cat back from Exotic speed

ANMVQ 07-22-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN (Post 2904405)
You will actually gain HP back with the Stock Cats over the HFC's or Test Pipes. The exhaust will be a little quieter.

Agreed :tiphat:

spdandpwr 07-22-2014 12:24 PM

The fact that by running stock cats you'll make more power, still be reliable, and be 50 state smog legal is pretty awesome.


That said, I do bet that with some cams, that reduce overlap, you'll be able to make 500 whp on this platform.

Rid3_FaM0uS 07-22-2014 01:08 PM

There are no such things as "cam"(and or large cam profile) upgrades for this car. Well there are but they are VERY impractical money wise and to my knowledge haven't been proven to provide results.

spdandpwr 07-22-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rid3_FaM0uS (Post 2904554)
There are no such things as "cam"(and or large cam profile) upgrades for this car. Well there are but they are VERY impractical money wise and to my knowledge haven't been proven to provide results.

I don't think that it is practical, nor do I suggest that it is absolutely necessary.

Overlap of the cams profiles is the important part. You dont want overlap on a f/i car. (overlap is the length of time both the intake and exhaust valves are open at the same time.) All internal combustion motors rely on cylinder pressure. F/I cars need only one set of valves open at a time to reduce boost loss out of the exhaust.

With cams that reduce overlap, you can raise boost without worrying that it'll escape out of the exhaust valves. Additionally, you can run the car without the cat, allowing you make more power that. On other platforms, running catless with an s/c = more power.

This is by no means a knock on any of the s/c and t/c kits that are available. They work great. I'm just saying that if we had the opportunity to reduce overlap, I think that we'd be able to make even more power. I defer to the k20 civic si that is running 15lbs of boost and making 420+ hp and 29X lb ft of torque...that's impressive and he used cams to get there.

theDreamer 07-22-2014 01:44 PM

There are not "cams" for our car in the traditional sense because of VVEL, it acts like a virtual cam on the intake side.
On the exhaust side we do have a physical cam, but it requires being able to adjust VVEL with the exhaust cam to make any difference which has not happened yet.


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