I remember this

I would have to agree with you. Even if they aren't getting many sales from the members on this forum something should be done to make an example out of them. It would also mean a lot to the people who were taken advantage of if they were reprimanded. It would say to them that this kind of treatment of our members won't be tolerated! Even a simple statement would go a long way and I don't think I'm alone in this. I'm not saying a mob beating is in order or even an apology is owed I'm just saying the regulars on this forum feel a great sense of camaraderie when together. We often refer to ourselves as a family and I know I'm one of those people so when something like this happens it would go a long way if we were made to feel more important than a shady sponsor who robs people of their honest, hard earned money. This is in no way meant to point fingers or offend I'm just giving a suggestion and its merely my personal opinion and we all know opinions are like A-holes everyone has one!

Beating a dead horse... Just move on.

Refer to the last line on my previous post

What you're saying has already been said before. Just read some of the responses tough guy. Like cosmo said people can get in to trouble about it. So to help you out, just try to not to worry about that part. Good luck.

I just don't understand why people would dump huge amounts of money into companies like GTM , Forged and etc. They have left multiple crumbs throughout the internet of burning people on other forums and have been banned as well. I do not feel sorry for anyone here. It's really entertaining. Do your homework before u blow your money. It was really obvious that GTM was robbing Peter to pay Paul. Nobody wanted to do their homework.

Let's not bring up the threats, warnings and banning of previous Z/G owners...

1. Because fresh starts on various Z/G/GTR big builds
2. Yes
3. Yes

To be blunt various big name shops have gone through the same issues as it's part of running a business. A customer service at that where levels of expectation vary. What's crazy is that local shops in the scene are fly by night and renamed that it's even worse! Plus the life cycle of a car enthusiast (3-5yrs) is short so things like this happen over and over. New faces, new money, and the lack of tools, time and space makes this a profitable business!

Hell I've even made a few bucks just because I have a few tools, a little know how and time while others don't have that luxury...

Sam/GTM I think are gonna be fine...only time will tell though

Aww man I'm sorry that was my attempt at humor. I didn't mean to offend you. I'm sorry

SAM/GTM will sustain.

Sustain what exactly? I mean, regardless of your feelings about the guy/their business it's kinda hard to paint him into the "stoic hero" archetype here.

GTM has NO cash left!!
http://bankrupt.com/misc/cacb14-17336.pdf

Sam is a snake.

Browsing his MHI pre release and group buy thread is just plain depressing. A lot of us paid into his scheme.

Well there it is people, Read and weep... No the question now is can we finally have him Removed as a vender from this forum?

If this be proven it was premeditated than there should be some legality from you people that have paid in full and partial... Good luck..

Funny, my name didn't make the list on that form.....