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Baer383 10-04-2013 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2515657)
i said as far as i know :stirthepot:

And as far as I know for a fact your wrong.:tiphat:

^ Sarcasm if some of you didn't now

DIGItonium 10-04-2013 01:13 AM

Last thing on my mind. :ugh2:

I had the kit installed at 22k miles. Currently north of 55k miles right now. It still needs a tune haha, but I'd rather wait. As of last week, the car is not a daily driver anymore.

1slow370 10-04-2013 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2515711)
And as far as I know for a fact your wrong.:tiphat:

What is "as far as i know for a fact"? that's like saying "hey I may be wrong, but I believe I definitely am alive". lol

I like it it's going in the sig

Mr&Mrs 10-04-2013 01:24 AM

Just from the very few that have popped I personally will not go over 500WHP on the stock block. I also drive it like I paid for it so it doesn't see many redline runs. I have to spend to much money on other stuff right now that if I blew mine up it may be a while before it is back on road.

theDreamer 10-04-2013 07:15 AM

Remember guys, even with a good list of builds what is known is probably 10-25% of actual boosted 370z on the road. I would say for every failure we see, be it stillen or GTM kit or other, there is 2 more behind it somewhere else.

2011 Nismo#91 10-04-2013 09:13 AM

From what I remember in no specific order-

1. Improper Installation blew one motor via a damage fuel line causing a lean condition.

2. A second hand kit pulled from a salvaged car lost oil and damaged the turbine and engine.

3. Most likely a bad tune but yet to be determined caused the motor to be damaged.

4. High rev motor damaged exact cause unknown.

I'm sure there are a few more I don't remember.
Overall blown FI motor are from installation issues then anything else. The majority of people here have the good sense of doing things right.

We are not Honda Civic drivers who buy a FI kit off ebay and install it overnight in our parents garage only to have it blow up in your face the next day trying to be a drift king.

:stirthepot:

Baer383 10-04-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 2515718)
What is "as far as i know for a fact"? that's like saying "hey I may be wrong, but I believe I definitely am alive". lol

I like it it's going in the sig

Here you go another spoon fed member

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...-tt-build.html

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ml#post2515448

jcosta79 10-04-2013 09:35 AM

Keeping an FI engine safe boils down to the tuning. As long as you keep detonation out of the engine, you should be okay. Do your research and find a good, smart tuner. (There's not that many of them out there)

Diabel 10-04-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2515249)
Go to Stillen Website check the horse power that your car will make with their kit (500 BHP which is around 400ish WHP)

That "safe" 500whp from GTM TT kit - how many would it be in BHP ?

Baer383 10-04-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Diabel (Post 2516064)
That "safe" 500whp from GTM TT kit - how many would it be in BHP ?

WHP is measured at the rear wheel.

Just go by WHP and you will be better off.

Infidel 10-04-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Diabel (Post 2516064)
That "safe" 500whp from GTM TT kit - how many would it be in BHP ?

Typical loss from BHP to WHP is 15%-18% I believe.

2011 Nismo#91 10-04-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Infidel (Post 2516081)
Typical loss from BHP to WHP is 15%-18% I believe.

Typically a stock Nismo gets ~290 WHP but is listed as 350 BHP.
83% makes it to the wheels. Or 17% is lost.


So lets say you modded it to output 500 WHP, working backwards is 602 BHP. Which is a hell of a lot of power for a production engine.

For perspective, some other production cars '09 and prior with around that power:
2005 Pagani Zonda F — 594 hp
2009 Bentley Continental Flying Spur Speed — 600 hp
2009 Bentley Continental GT Speed — 600
2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 — 600 hp
1993 Bugatti EB110 Supersport — 603 hp
2006 Maybach 57S and 62S — 604
2005 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG — 604 hp
2006 Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG — 604 hp
2005 Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG — 604 hp
2004 Porsche Carrera GT — 605 hp
2007 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano — 611 hp

Chuck33079 10-04-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 2516161)
So lets say you modded it to output 500 WHP, working backwards is 602 BHP. Which is a hell of a lot of power for a production engine.

162 hp/liter is massive.

jcosta79 10-04-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2516169)
162 hp/liter is massive.

Not for a forced-induction engine. The new Porsche 918 has a N/A V8 that gets 130+ BHP/Liter.

Chuck33079 10-04-2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 2516198)
Not for a forced-induction engine. The new insanely expensive Porsche 918 has a N/A V8 that gets 130+ BHP/Liter.

Well, yeah. If I could afford a 918 I wouldn't be here. Maybe I should qualify my posts a little bit.


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