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megalapagas 05-30-2013 04:29 PM

Gtm S/C Stg 1.5, help?
 
im debating if I should go ahead and purchase this s/c, seeing as my 370z is A/t I assume it"ll have a big advantage with this :D. Anyways whats the difference between the Tuner and Turn Key package am Confused, also im assuming I need a transmission cooler but whats the difference with this cooler and the 25 row oil cooler??? Thx I really need some advise from FI users or preferably Gtm (seeing as I know you guys have phone calls from left and right :() like I said Thx and hope ya'll can guide me with this before I go ahead and purchase this system.

olddudesrule 05-30-2013 04:42 PM

Don't take this negatively, but first off, you need to do a lot of reading on this forum and on the web in general about the available systems out there. Use the search function. Yesterday, I read a 39 page thread on S/C vs. twin turbos for our engines that's on this forum (GTM's original release thread from 2011). I thought I knew a lot already, but learned some specific knowledge reference how our cars react to both these systems.

Secondly, by your post we can tell that you have a lot to learn, in general, about performance upgrades (difference between a 25 row oil cooler and a trans cooler...).

Again, I don't mean to sound like I'm digging on you, but if your considering adding a s/c to your car, you better educate yourself. That's a ton of $$$ to think about spending, especially if you aren't knowledgable about these cars, the 3.7L motor, what's needed pre/post installation, etc, etc.

Get reading and good luck with the search!!

Chuck33079 05-30-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by olddudesrule (Post 2340281)
Don't take this negatively, but first off, you need to do a lot of reading on this forum and on the web in general about the available systems out there. Use the search function. Yesterday, I read a 39 page thread on S/C vs. twin turbos for our engines that's on this forum (GTM's original release thread from 2011). I thought I knew a lot already, but learned some specific knowledge reference how our cars react to both these systems.

Secondly, by your post we can tell that you have a lot to learn, in general, about performance upgrades (difference between a 25 row oil cooler and a trans cooler...).

Again, I don't mean to sound like I'm digging on you, but if your considering adding a s/c to your car, you better educate yourself. That's a ton of $$$ to think about spending, especially if you aren't knowledgable about these cars, the 3.7L motor, what's needed pre/post installation, etc, etc.

Get reading and good luck with the search!!

All of this. Plus, the AT does not do well with power over the 400-450whp mark. You can tinker with line pressure and a cooler, but you'll still have to deal with the clutch packs being too small in the higher gears. If you're set on this, figure the cost of the kit to be about half of the total build cost. There's a lot of other stuff you need, and it adds up quickly.

megalapagas 05-30-2013 05:08 PM

Thx pretty much answered everything.

Chuck33079 05-30-2013 05:17 PM

If you really want to bring yourself up to speed on the concepts in general, order these.

Maximum Boost: Designing, Testing, and Installing Turbocharger Systems (Engineering and Performance): Corky Bell: 9780837601601: Amazon.com: Books

Supercharged! Design, Testing and Installation of Supercharger Systems: Corky Bell: 9780837601687: Amazon.com: Books

They're not Z specific and some info can be a little dated, but it's pretty much required reading for forced induction, specifically aftermarket forced induction.

Baer383 05-30-2013 07:26 PM

I had my Stage 1.5 kit on my 2010 sport/touring 7at with 470 rwhp you will need a 25 row trans cooler (mine had a Spal 6.5in electric fan)and you should strongly consider at least a VB upgrade and if funds allow it a stage 4 trans from GTM.

The reason I have a Nismo now is b/c the trans started slipping 6 months after install with some pretty hard abuse.

megalapagas 05-31-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2340537)
I had my Stage 1.5 kit on my 2010 sport/touring 7at with 470 rwhp you will need a 25 row trans cooler (mine had a Spal 6.5in electric fan)and you should strongly consider at least a VB upgrade and if funds allow it a stage 4 trans from GTM.

The reason I have a Nismo now is b/c the trans started slipping 6 months after install with some pretty hard abuse.

Thx, this is basically what i was asking and i spoke to mike from gtm and he told me the same thing Vb with a 25 row oil cooler and the (Turn Key) kit should be ok, OBVIOUSLY theres some more upgrades i need to do ofcourse but thats just the necessities for now and naa im not about hard abuse on my car since it is my DD i try keeping it in tip top shape. Thx brotha much appreciated on your advice! :tiphat:

Baer383 05-31-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by megalapagas (Post 2342277)
im not about hard abuse on my car since it is my DD i try keeping it in tip top shape.

:icon17::icon17:Thats what we all said till we had boost,now you can't keep your foot out of it.:bowrofl:

elperuano 05-31-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2342389)
:icon17::icon17:Thats what we all said till we had boost,now you can't keep your foot out of it.:bowrofl:

True story

Tombonombona 05-31-2013 07:15 PM

Is this your first boosted car? Also, I wouldn't look into doing this if it is your DD. Adding that kind of power effects reliability no matter how gentle you are.... Plus the time between ordering and getting the kit is roughly five months (mine just shipped today)

Chuck33079 05-31-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombonombona (Post 2342550)
Is this your first boosted car? Also, I wouldn't look into doing this if it is your DD. Adding that kind of power effects reliability no matter how gentle you are.... Plus the time between ordering and getting the kit is roughly five months (mine just shipped today)

If you get a good conservative tune and keep on maintenance, using it for a DD is fine.

Tombonombona 05-31-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2342575)
If you get a good conservative tune and keep on maintenance, using it for a DD is fine.

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Yeah but how many people actually do that. Well the smart ones at least. I know too many people that boost their cars, don't do any maint or supporting mods (cooling and such). And then bitch to the company when their motor pops.

chrischhorn 05-31-2013 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombonombona (Post 2342677)
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Yeah but how many people actually do that. Well the smart ones at least. I know too many people that boost their cars, don't do any maint or supporting mods (cooling and such). And then bitch to the company when their motor pops.

Guy on here Niztalgic, has been running his supercharged Nismo as his daily for a years now. Pretty conservative tune I believe around 440whp and he romps on it pretty often. Not that he doesn't make quite a bit of money and has plenty of vehicles to back up but he's never had any down time since the install.

Chuck33079 05-31-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombonombona (Post 2342677)
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Yeah but how many people actually do that. Well the smart ones at least. I know too many people that boost their cars, don't do any maint or supporting mods (cooling and such). And then bitch to the company when their motor pops.

If you don't do all the supporting mods and cooling mods, it's owner error. If you buy everything you need and get a good conservative tune, you'll be fine.


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