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isayimandrew 05-29-2013 08:28 AM

GTM MHI Twin Turbo vs. Fast Intentions Twin Turbo
 
Requested to lock thread. Happy folks?

theDreamer 05-29-2013 08:33 AM

You cannot compare these two kits, you need to compare GTMs garreett TT kit to be fair.

COSMO 05-29-2013 08:38 AM

Oh no, here we go....

Chuck33079 05-29-2013 08:39 AM

Are either of these kits actually out there yet? I'd say no one will know the answer to your question until the kits have been shipped and installed.

isayimandrew 05-29-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2337348)
You cannot compare these two kits, you need to compare GTMs garreett TT kit to be fair.

I wasnt trying to compare these two kits side by side on a performance level. I was trying to get thoughts more on which would you prefer for the use i described (daily use and light track).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2337367)
Are either of these kits actually out there yet? I'd say no one will know the answer to your question until the kits have been shipped and installed.

I know none of these kits are out yet. Im just trying to get some ideas on where I want to focus my budget on and see everyones preferences.

Chuck33079 05-29-2013 08:58 AM

There's no way to tell until production kits are out in the wild and independent sources start showing real world numbers.

The MHI kit is a compromise kit with a much lower ceiling. If you're ok with that, then go with it and save the money. The FI kit or the GTM Garrett kit are scalable to whatever power level you want. If you're never planning on building the motor, you can save a lot of money with the MHI kit. But, if it ends up not being enough, you've painted yourself into a corner and it will cost a lot more than the amount you saved up front to get out of it.

G37sHKS 05-29-2013 08:59 AM

Somebody please ban the OP :shakes head:

isayimandrew 05-29-2013 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2337416)
Somebody please ban the OP :shakes head:

What am I doing wrong exactly?

I was just trying to get some info... if something i said was that bad then sorry... jeez i thought forums were a place to ask questions.

sfearl1 05-29-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 2337416)
Somebody please ban the OP :shakes head:

While there may not be data on either of the kits to accurately give the OP a suggestion on which route to take, there's nothing wrong with the question he asked. Stay on topic or don't post at all :tiphat:

isayimandrew 05-29-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2337413)
There's no way to tell until production kits are out in the wild and independent sources start showing real world numbers.

The MHI kit is a compromise kit with a much lower ceiling. If you're ok with that, then go with it and save the money. The FI kit or the GTM Garrett kit are scalable to whatever power level you want. If you're never planning on building the motor, you can save a lot of money with the MHI kit. But, if it ends up not being enough, you've painted yourself into a corner and it will cost a lot more than the amount you saved up front to get out of it.

This is the info I was trying to receive. thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 2337463)
While there may not be data on either of the kits to accurately give the OP a suggestion on which route to take, there's nothing wrong with the question he asked. Stay on topic or don't post at all :tiphat:

Thank you sir :tiphat: You understood what I was trying to go for.

Sh0velMan 05-29-2013 09:29 AM

Such a trollbait topic.

elperuano 05-29-2013 10:17 AM

He chooses the more affordable low budget Gtm TT kit and pairs it up with the most expensive kit out there..

U need people to tell u what chuck did? It's obvious, just read up on it.

Unfair comparison to begin with.

isayimandrew 05-29-2013 10:30 AM

wow you people need to actually read what I wrote instead of looking at the title.

Sh0velMan 05-29-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2337582)
He chooses the more affordable low budget Gtm TT kit and pairs it up with the most expensive kit out there..

U need people to tell u what chuck did? It's obvious, just read up on it.

Unfair comparison to begin with.

Hey you!

Go here, buy me mariquitas and churrasco and PM it to me. Quickly!

BigT 05-29-2013 10:39 AM

Please don't bother to ever make a thread with valid questions.

The MHI kit will spool faster, but make less top end. It is designed more as an OE kit. The full race kit is way more expensive and will make more top end power. Choose your evil.

Chuck33079 05-29-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigT (Post 2337646)
The MHI kit will spool faster, but make less top end.

Spool will depend on which turbos you're comparing. 16g vs. a GT28 with the big housing or larger? MHI all the way. 20g vs. the GT28 with the .63 housing? GT28. Ball bearing turbos like the Garretts will spool faster than a similarly sized journal bearing turbo like the MHIs.

SPOHN 05-29-2013 11:08 AM

Should known someone would

elperuano 05-29-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2337625)
Hey you!

Go here, buy me mariquitas and churrasco and PM it to me. Quickly!

Lol :bowrofl:
Thas more like Cuban/Argentinian style... I'm not from there! That link has to be a set-up!

elperuano 05-29-2013 12:40 PM

Well to entertain this thread I would pick FI kit if money wasnt an option.

Gtm kit has limits. FI kit doesn't. Just comes with a price tag.

theDreamer 05-29-2013 12:43 PM

To help this and other threads out, if I get time this week I will put together in the noob thread (http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ion-noobs.html) a spreadsheet comparing the kits.

What it will probably look like:
GTM Garrett v F.I. v Greddy v GTM MHI - TT group
GTM v Stillen - SC Group
BP v VIS - T group

Chuck33079 05-29-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2337947)
Well to entertain this thread I would pick FI kit if money wasnt an option.

Gtm MHI kit has limits. FI kit doesn't. Just comes with a price tag.

Fixed. We both know how good the GTM Garrett kit is. ;)

elperuano 05-29-2013 12:50 PM

D'oh! Forgot to put the MHI lol. Thanks.

And yea the Gtm Garrett TT kits r awesome. 12 lbs of boost n 10k miles later still can't stop smiling :)

Hermitns 05-29-2013 01:30 PM

lmfao
 
you'd get out of here safer if you were caught with one of their old ladies....talking turbo trash... :roflpuke2:

Hermitns 05-29-2013 01:33 PM

I
 
HAD the cash but research lead me to buy....gold and silver (sorry Tony). I'll live with 315 hp for a while.

BigT 05-29-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2337661)
Spool will depend on which turbos you're comparing. 16g vs. a GT28 with the big housing or larger? MHI all the way. 20g vs. the GT28 with the .63 housing? GT28. Ball bearing turbos like the Garretts will spool faster than a similarly sized journal bearing turbo like the MHIs.

Ball bearing doesn't have a huge affect on initial spool. Transient response and turbo life is where BB shines.

Spool has more to do with turbine housing and wheel size. Have you seen how tiny MHI turbine housings are for 16g's and 20g's?

Chuck33079 05-29-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigT (Post 2338127)
Ball bearing doesn't have a huge affect on initial spool. Transient response and turbo life is where BB shines.

Spool has more to do with turbine housing and wheel size. Have you seen how tiny MHI turbine housings are for 16g's and 20g's?

If by initial spool you mean boost threshold, you're correct. A 20g isn't really that small, although I haven't looked at the specific flavor of wheel they're using. The Greddy kit uses 20gs as well, and people haven't seemed to complain about boost tapering to redline.

Baer383 05-29-2013 08:47 PM

I'm ready with all the body bags we will need when the bloodshed starts.:icon14::eek::eek::eek:


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