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Chuck33079 05-29-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bldg636 (Post 2337395)
$20K extra laying around to make a 1000hp monster, so it would be a relatively mild build

Your numbers are way off. 1000 hp is going to take a lot more than $20k.

theDreamer 05-29-2013 08:56 AM

This is a tough question because the 2 cars are very different.
RWD v AWD
NA factory v TT factory
6MT/7AT v 6AT double clutch
2 seater v 2+2

Plus many more, but I can say we have had guys go from the Z to the GT-R and GT-R to the Z and be happy. If you want to mod the car and tinker with it, and not up to the budget of a GT-R level you may want to stick with the Z for the time being. Even wait for the R36 in a few years and upgrade then to a GT-R.

theDreamer 05-29-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2337404)
Your numbers are way off. 1000 hp is going to take a lot more than $20k.

Yeah, I believe many of the 800HP packages are around 50k currently and up depending on the manufacturer plus install.

MMC Racing 05-29-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2337394)
I've never driven a GTR. It doesn't really appeal to me. It's insanely capable, but it doesn't reach me on an emotional level, and that's a requirement for the price tag and astronomical cost of ownership. That being said, my boosted Z is exactly what I wanted. There's some downsides though. I'd expect it to cause a major drop in your resale value, especially if you trade it in. Mods generally count against you when you sell. If you're not planning on owning the car long term, don't do something so drastic as boosting the Z.

If you drove one - really drove it like you owned it - it would reach you emotionally. It is different of course because you obviously value pushing in a clutch pedal, but what you'll get back in return from the AWD system is a completely different high.

tibal 05-29-2013 08:58 AM

I say boost the Z..

Save on the side for a GTR and then who knows, maybe you will put that off a bit once you realize how much fun a boosted Z is :)

Also, downtime is not bad at all. Your talking anywhere from a week to a month if there are minor setbacks. Also, just run conservatively, have fun and avoid additional headaches.

Will surely keep you smiling for the next 2 years when behind the wheel.

Chuck33079 05-29-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2337412)
If you drove one - really drove it like you owned it - it would reach you emotionally. It is different of course because you obviously value pushing in a clutch pedal, but what you'll get back in return from the AWD system is a completely different high.

I've done the AWD thing before, and that's not my knock on it. The transmission I could learn to love too. It just does nothing for me aesthetically. Something that costs that much should have me going out to the garage at night to stare at it. It's shallow, but for $100k it should give me wood.

sfearl1 05-29-2013 09:06 AM

I was in your shoes about 2-3 weeks ago. I was pretty much set on selling the Z at the end of the summer and saving for a down on a 2015 GTR. Then I went to ZDayZ and saw the Fast Intentions TT running at the airstrip event. IIRC, the car was putting down ~490whp at 7.5psi on pump gas (91). It was consistently running with a modded GTR (mid-pipe and tune) up to 140mph. The FI team was confident the car would've pulled on it at higher boost.

At $10k plus labor and supporting mods, it's a better move for me financially at this point. Plus, I just think my Z is too damn sexy to get rid of. :tup:

Here's the video of it hanging at 140mph with the GTR..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA-6Og9fE-s

sfearl1 05-29-2013 09:32 AM

Another angle and 6:30...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpIQQSToOGk#t=392s

elperuano 05-29-2013 10:28 AM

From a roll I can take lightly modded gtr's. From a dig I'd get handled easily.

Comes down to whatever OP wants. A GTR is a GTR. The king of the import world almost. But it also comes at a heavy price tag and maintenance ain't cheap and neither is modding.

A Z is much more affordable and factoring in cost to boost the Z and maintaining it your wallet will thank you. You could take the GTR from a roll but never from a dig. Now if the GTR had any performance package upgrades then from a roll or a dig you would have no chance with the Z.

All really comes down to how much ur willing to spend.

MMC Racing 05-29-2013 11:38 AM

If you run it from a roll. If the GT-R isn't modded. If you stick to straight lines with the first 2 being true.. Then, you might hang with one.. :)

If you compromise enough and narrow the parameters to something completely meaningless, then you should boost the Z and call it a day.

Mitco39 05-29-2013 12:06 PM

Then take a look at a 350Z up against this same FI 370z. Makes it look stock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpIQQSToOGk#t=734s

Edit: It wont take time stamps in our posts it is 12:14 for anyone who wants to find it. Here is a link to the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...QSToOGk#t=734s

bldg636 05-29-2013 12:21 PM

Man . . . .decisions decisions . . . i'm really kinda leaning towards building the Z . . . I think it may be a more budget friendly decision . . . not to mention I really like wrenching on my own car and doing a TT install sounds like a lot of fun! I'm glad this is a topic that sparked some interest!

Chuck33079 05-29-2013 12:25 PM

DIYing a tt install is not for the faint of heart, unless you have no problem dropping the motor. It's not required, but it makes it a lot easier.

elperuano 05-29-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2337867)
Then take a look at a 350Z up against this same FI 370z. Makes it look stock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpIQQSToOGk#t=734s

Edit: It wont take time stamps in our posts it is 12:14 for anyone who wants to find it. Here is a link to the time.

Hendersonville Airstrip (ZdayZ) Full Video - YouTube

That 350 must be fun. Built motor n lotta boost!

Mitco39 05-29-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2337916)
DIYing a tt install is not for the faint of heart, unless you have no problem dropping the motor. It's not required, but it makes it a lot easier.

With BP's kit you dont need to do any of this. If you can change your Cats you can install this kit.

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2337922)
That 350 must be fun. Built motor n lotta boost!

Yes sir, it happens to be one of Sasha's (BP's) kit. One day I hope to be able to but my kit to the test like this.


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