I'm sure you're right, but there's just no way to determine how much of the blame for delay goes where. It's pretty much irrelevant, as the kit will be done whenever it gets done. I agree that they could be a lot more transparent in the process of getting their kit certified. That would ease more than a few people's minds.

I hear ya there, and I guess there are just a lot of people that would like more transparency with the kit in question. Myself included which I'm sure is no secret by now.

I've said it before and I will say it again. I don't give a **** about the California Air Resource Board or the planet. Anybody who cares about the planet is a ******* idiot. Matter of fact, I'm going to give my car some nice extra revs with my test pipes driving home tonight. I hope a ******* a tree is right by the exhaust and it dies.

I'm sure you're not then only one... If I had to guess some people just don't want to break any laws and couldn't care less otherwise.

True. Although, I may go back to to stock cats because I can't stand the VQ hiss. But as far as CARB is concerned, I think CARB certified aftermarket kits would definitely be a good idea for people who can't just pay someone to pass their smog test.

That's where I'm at. Especially if one moves around a lot.

Paying someone off to pass smog is rare now since they cracked down on this with undercover stings and revoking smog tester licenses. Please PM me if you have a SMOG hookup.

This is pushing me toward Stillen but with the issues with this kit and the lack of power its a deal killer. Another option is getting the Stage 0 GTM supercharger or turbo kit when CARB approved for a carb sticker and converting to a higher stage until the time comes for smog and then return to Stage 0 to pass and then back to desired stage. The last option is uninstalling/installing a FI system every two years.

the way i have been looking at it recently is who is going to have more fun?

the guy who makes better numbers but has to drive like a grandma on the streets because a cop might hear the BOV on their TT370z and give you a ref ticket, or the guy who isnt making as much power but is able to push his car to the limit every day of the week and doesn't have to worry about failing smog checks

i personally am the latter so for me to go FI on my car, its going to have to be legal so if i suddenly decide to push the car, i dont have to worry about paying too much out of my *** when i get pulled over(imagine how much its gonna cost to rip off a TT kit, put everything back to stock, have the ref inspect it, then put everything back on, that alone isnt worth the trouble imo)


dude i dont know if you got to check out the stillen 370z but if you get the chance to i would do it, i drove up to coasta mesa from north SD just to check it out and when i went for a ride along, man it sure didnt feel like it was lacking any power, now I imagine thats because their place is near sea level so it is probably making the advertised 412whp on their tune with their carb approved kit, plus i imagine you would also make more power assuming you live near sea level, I would just swap the pulley, impeller and bpv and custom tune it and call it a day, at sea level that should be an easy 500whp


imho though, its not all about the numbers, plus with the kit being street legal, you dont have to pay for fake smogs and worry about getting ref tickets

I love living in Florida. TT, open dumps, 3" exhaust. No problems whatsoever.

You lose the CARB approval when you start swapping out the kit's componants. Ain't nothing easy about getting 500whp out of the Stillen kit. Many have tried.

while true, you have the sticker so smog shop guys dont care that its modded and if you ever get a ref ticket, the ref wont completely take apart the supercharger kit and check the length of every single pulley and check the impeller and see if its the stock stillen one

technically tuning your car is illegal here in california unless you have a carb approved tune yet no one is going to know about the different tune

i dont know about you though but i have seen a few people here who broke 500whp with the stillen kit

this guy has 445whp/335wtq on his stillen kit with stillen headers(which you are not supposed to do on any supercharger kit so he was probably getting more blow through then normal) and the stillen CBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Xg...waOAvg&index=2


plus most of the guys who give stillen a bad name dont even own the stillen kit so they dont have any say as to how good or bad the kit is(the people who use to own the kit though and say it sucks have a valid opinion because they use to own it)

at the end of the day though, it all comes down to what you want and how much you are willing to pay, if you(you meaning anyone, not you specifically) want to pay more for the illegal kit and then have to pay more for illegal smogs, then more power to you
I on the other hand dont have that kind of money so i dont mind making a bit less power but im able to fully enjoy my car on the streets which 90% of my driving takes place

Can you post a link to one that put down over 500? Most of the guys here seem to be in the 400-450 range.

No one has broken 500hp on the garbage Stillen. Please back up what ur claiming with actual proof.

That's what I'm hoping for me. More CARB legal FI options. The Stillen kit just isn't really an option for me.

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/71056-...illen-s-c.html

484/400 on the stillen kit and im sure meth injection would have bumped that up to 500 if not really close

so you own the stillen kit?

please enlighten us on how it is garbage?

can you recommend another carb approved kit that will make tons more power?