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luigi90210 05-15-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2317128)
You lose the CARB approval when you start swapping out the kit's componants. Ain't nothing easy about getting 500whp out of the Stillen kit. Many have tried.

while true, you have the sticker so smog shop guys dont care that its modded and if you ever get a ref ticket, the ref wont completely take apart the supercharger kit and check the length of every single pulley and check the impeller and see if its the stock stillen one

technically tuning your car is illegal here in california unless you have a carb approved tune yet no one is going to know about the different tune

i dont know about you though but i have seen a few people here who broke 500whp with the stillen kit

this guy has 445whp/335wtq on his stillen kit with stillen headers(which you are not supposed to do on any supercharger kit so he was probably getting more blow through then normal) and the stillen CBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Xg...waOAvg&index=2


plus most of the guys who give stillen a bad name dont even own the stillen kit so they dont have any say as to how good or bad the kit is(the people who use to own the kit though and say it sucks have a valid opinion because they use to own it)

at the end of the day though, it all comes down to what you want and how much you are willing to pay, if you(you meaning anyone, not you specifically) want to pay more for the illegal kit and then have to pay more for illegal smogs, then more power to you
I on the other hand dont have that kind of money so i dont mind making a bit less power but im able to fully enjoy my car on the streets which 90% of my driving takes place

Chuck33079 05-15-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2317283)
i dont know about you though but i have seen a few people here who broke 500whp with the stillen kit

Can you post a link to one that put down over 500? Most of the guys here seem to be in the 400-450 range.

elperuano 05-15-2013 03:00 PM

No one has broken 500hp on the garbage Stillen. Please back up what ur claiming with actual proof.

darli328 05-15-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by future370zzz (Post 2316375)
Paying someone off to pass smog is rare now since they cracked down on this with undercover stings and revoking smog tester licenses. Please PM me if you have a SMOG hookup.

This is pushing me toward Stillen but with the issues with this kit and the lack of power its a deal killer. Another option is getting the Stage 0 GTM supercharger or turbo kit when CARB approved for a carb sticker and converting to a higher stage until the time comes for smog and then return to Stage 0 to pass and then back to desired stage. The last option is uninstalling/installing a FI system every two years.

That's what I'm hoping for me. More CARB legal FI options. The Stillen kit just isn't really an option for me.

luigi90210 05-15-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2317297)
Can you post a link to one that put down over 500? Most of the guys here seem to be in the 400-450 range.

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/71056-...illen-s-c.html

484/400 on the stillen kit and im sure meth injection would have bumped that up to 500 if not really close

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2317323)
No one has broken 500hp on the garbage Stillen. Please back up what ur claiming with actual proof.

so you own the stillen kit?

please enlighten us on how it is garbage?

can you recommend another carb approved kit that will make tons more power?

Chuck33079 05-15-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2317716)
http://www.the370z.com/tuning/71056-...illen-s-c.html

484/400 on the stillen kit and im sure meth injection would have bumped that up to 500 if not really close



so you own the stillen kit?

please enlighten us on how it is garbage?

can you recommend another carb approved kit that will make tons more power?

Would have is not the same as did. That's the closest someone has come to 500 with the Stillen kit. I wouldn't call it garbage, but it is significantly down on power compared to other options.You do not have to own something to read and research something to come to an informed decision.

elperuano 05-16-2013 10:28 AM

No, I don't own a Stillen kit and will never own one. I'll stick with my stage 2 turbo.
That link u posted doesn't even make 500 and as u can tell from the title of the thread it is a HEAVILY modified kit. The only thing Stillen about that kit is the piping I believe. You're not going anywhere with a Stillen kit. If ur lookin for carb certified with power you're just wasting time and money (for now).

NitrousZ34 05-18-2013 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2318478)
No, I don't own a Stillen kit and will never own one. I'll stick with my stage 2 turbo.
That link u posted doesn't even make 500 and as u can tell from the title of the thread it is a HEAVILY modified kit. The only thing Stillen about that kit is the piping I believe. You're not going anywhere with a Stillen kit. If ur lookin for carb certified with power you're just wasting time and money (for now).

I love your comment. Seriously that guy doesn't understand how bad stillens kit is till he actually gets it. Their carb sticker is a joke, you have to get it tuned with stock cats on to even get that sticker, then you have to pay more to get it retuned once you put test pipes on to even make 412rwhp or whatever they claim their kit makes.

I have been reffed twice in my life, they do not touch your car at all. Don't take anything apart, nothing. I got reffed with my 350z, went with my god dammm nitrous lines and fogger installed and they didn't say anything lmao. the ref fine for me was $130. I had every bolt on imaginable for that car. People think ref tickets are such a big deal when they really aren't. If you cant afford the tickets you are going to get then just don't mod your car. Smog isn't a big deal for me either. I never have smogged a car in my life.

To the guy that is getting the stillen kit, make a complete build thread so I can follow it please. I REALLYYYYYY want to see you make 500rwhp with that kit. I'd rather spend $7500 at a strip club in one night than buy Stillen's kit hahahaha. GL!!!

NitrousZ34 05-18-2013 02:58 AM

Anyways, OP most of the carb related stuff don't even matter when you get pulled over. If a cop pulls you over and he feels like writing you a ticket, he will. If you do go FI, just make sure you drive carefully in areas that you know cops usually chill at.

luigi90210 05-22-2013 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2318478)
If ur lookin for carb certified with power you're just wasting time and money (for now).

i dont know about you but i dont have the time or money for ref tickets, got 1 with my turbo eclipse and the ref failed me for a K&N pod filter on the stock intake pipe

sure some refs dont care about bolt on parts but there are some who are real a-holes and it honestly isnt worth the time or money

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Originally Posted by NitrousZ34 (Post 2321112)
I have been reffed twice in my life, they do not touch your car at all. Don't take anything apart, nothing. I got reffed with my 350z, went with my god dammm nitrous lines and fogger installed and they didn't say anything lmao. the ref fine for me was $130. I had every bolt on imaginable for that car. People think ref tickets are such a big deal when they really aren't. If you cant afford the tickets you are going to get then just don't mod your car. Smog isn't a big deal for me either. I never have smogged a car in my life.

cool story bro, refer to my ref experience above

all it took was one ticket for me to learn, and it cost me close to $400 to put my eclipse back to stock and pay for the ref fines plus i had to take 2 days off work to get everything done

too much of a PITA for me to deal with, i would personally rather modify the stillen kit, not make as much hp, and not get hassled by cops/refs for mods(having the sticker is no guarantee from cops but i doubt refs will take apart the entire kit and measure everything and make sure the kit is still at carb spec), oh and its not about not being able to afford tickets i will get(as you say), its about not wasting time and money on getting around CARB(and thats great you live in an area with no emissions testing, i dont live in an area with no emissions so unlike you, i have to smog my cars every 2 years)

oh and the comment about test pipes, i could care less about test pipes, if i wanted a loud car with amazing flow(but i dont), i would just put an electric cutout before the cat after installing the supercharger and getting the carb sticker


trust me if i lived in another state, ill be all over fast intentions twin turbo kit or GTM's MHI twin turbo kit, but unfortunately i live in california so that isnt the case

luigi90210 05-22-2013 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2317742)
You do not have to own something to read and research something to come to an informed decision.

yes but it is by no means a bad kit, it may not be what you personally want but the stillen kit for what it is, is by no means bad and thats what im defending here. im not saying the gtm supercharger kit is bad, im not saying turbos are bad(in fact anyone with any basic understanding as to how cars work would agree that turbos are better than superchargers, always), im saying is that the stillen kit is not a bad kit like everyone makes it out to be

Chuck33079 05-22-2013 06:33 AM

It's not "bad", it's just severely compromised compared to other fi options. That's why you see so many people changing the parts of the kit (and technically losing their carb certification).

elperuano 05-22-2013 08:11 AM

^thissss.

Think people r starting to get it!

Lug 05-22-2013 02:47 PM

From the wiki:

"California is the only state that is permitted to have such a regulatory agency, since it is the only state that had one before the passage of the federal Clean Air Act. Other states are permitted to follow CARB standards, or use the federal ones, but not set their own."

NitrousZ34 05-25-2013 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2327277)
i dont know about you but i dont have the time or money for ref tickets, got 1 with my turbo eclipse and the ref failed me for a K&N pod filter on the stock intake pipe

sure some refs dont care about bolt on parts but there are some who are real a-holes and it honestly isnt worth the time or money



cool story bro, refer to my ref experience above

all it took was one ticket for me to learn, and it cost me close to $400 to put my eclipse back to stock and pay for the ref fines plus i had to take 2 days off work to get everything done

too much of a PITA for me to deal with, i would personally rather modify the stillen kit, not make as much hp, and not get hassled by cops/refs for mods(having the sticker is no guarantee from cops but i doubt refs will take apart the entire kit and measure everything and make sure the kit is still at carb spec), oh and its not about not being able to afford tickets i will get(as you say), its about not wasting time and money on getting around CARB(and thats great you live in an area with no emissions testing, i dont live in an area with no emissions so unlike you, i have to smog my cars every 2 years)

oh and the comment about test pipes, i could care less about test pipes, if i wanted a loud car with amazing flow(but i dont), i would just put an electric cutout before the cat after installing the supercharger and getting the carb sticker


trust me if i lived in another state, ill be all over fast intentions twin turbo kit or GTM's MHI twin turbo kit, but unfortunately i live in california so that isnt the case


Ummm I live in Cali too... What's the point in buying a Stillen kit if you are just going to change out half the stuff just to make more power? A GTM kit will still make more power than a fully modified Stillen kit, and for a lot less cheaper. If your just mainly after that carb sticker than I feel bad for you bro lol. Anyways, get the Stillen kit, get your carb sticker, and have fun with your amazingly slow Z. My guess is that you will be making around 360rwhp with stock cats. Your are going to bust through those cats and than you are never going to be able to smog your car ;) post a build thread PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

MMC Racing 02-04-2014 02:48 PM

Still interested.

Ill 02-04-2014 04:20 PM

Everybody on the forums knows you are still interested.

frost 02-04-2014 05:09 PM

Yeah, we got it

MMC Racing 02-05-2014 07:22 AM

Everyone's got it except the ones that count.. :(

Trips 02-05-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2679855)
Everyone's got it except the ones that count.. :(

Im sorry But by the looks of things IF YOU or anyone else is going to need updates?

Feel free to pickup the phone and simply just call them for an update.

Its obvious GTM is too busy to keep their threads up to date.

Please refrain from just bumping this any longer unless theres a development.


Thank You.

MMC Racing 02-05-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Trips (Post 2679981)
Im sorry But by the looks of things IF YOU or anyone else is going to need updates?

Feel free to pickup the phone and simply just call them for an update.

Its obvious GTM is too busy to keep their threads up to date.

Please refrain from just bumping this any longer unless theres a development.


Thank You.

This isn't their thread. You seem confused.

Chuck33079 02-05-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2680104)
This isn't their thread. You seem confused.

:facepalm:
Someone sure is, that's for sure. :rofl2:

Ill 02-05-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2680104)
This isn't their thread. You seem confused.

:drama:

MMC Racing 02-10-2014 10:01 AM

Since George was in a communicating mood, I asked him about CARB certification status for their supercharger kit. No commitment or explaination why it is taking 4 years to do. He did claim it is still being worked on....... He also said I shouldn't ask again and wait for a thread to be made on it.. :rofl2:


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