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:iagree: This is the one thing many people don't realize, or think about, when adding boost.

What are you all planning on running for guages and such, speaking of supporting mods

I'm running AFR/Boost/Oil&H20 Temp/Oil Pressure

AEM failsafe boost/afr and oil pressure, im fine with the oe water and oil temps, I dont track the car. did some spring maintenance, new brakes, rotors in the rear flushed the brake and clutch fluid, my clutch fluid was TERRIBLE, the clutch feels like new again. also did this:


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The G doesn't come with an oil temp gauge. I would typically be ok with OEM water temp but the GReddy Multi-gauge will monitor water temp and it only cost me like $70 for all the necessary equipment to add it.

the lines on the aem failsafe boost/afr long enough to get from the pillar to where ever they need to go? i like this one

I used the ATI pod in the center console, they give you a heck of a lot of harness, I have tons of it wraped up behind the dash, so I would say yes no problem, I dropped the o2 wire through the shifter housing right on to the transmission, the oil pressure harness was nowhere near long enough to reach where I put the sensor which is where the OE is as well, its is only 3 wires, I just cut and soldered in about 5 feet of wire to extend it. I plan in wiring the failsafe into the EBC, that I don't have yet but need to get one before the 11th, then it will dump the wastegates if the AFR goes crazy, at least it is some protection!


crappy pic

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thanks im going to order mine now then

Joe or Sasha, did the kit come with new hardware for the triangle flange or will I need to reuse the ones from my HFCs? I haven't gone through the entire hardware bag and just wondering if I need to source new bolts when I sell my HFCs or if I can provide the ones off my car.

All hardware is included. However, if one of the studs on the OEM headers doesn't come out, you leave it in there, and re-use the OEM nut with the stud. I think one stud stay on each one of the three-bolt flanges.

Figure that was the answer since you include EVERYTHING. I kind of remember a stud staying on each side but its been over three years since hfc install

Correct.

So what is the bare minimum required for guages? a/f, boost, and then?? Never really put much thought into it. I am trying to budget my build out

Also, recomended brands? Things I should stay away from? I rather do the guages on the cheaper side to get me by, then upgrade later if needed.

Boost and AFR at minimum. Don't go too cheap. If you buy some Prosport garbage and your motor lets go because the gauge malfunctioned and you didn't know you were too lean or overboosting like crazy, did you really save any money?

Aem and Defi are the big guys,innovate is popular for AFR PLX is neat, almost when with them to be honest, but the 2 in one gauge is great...less know but heard they are really good is Zeintronics... I like the AEMs but 60mm would be nice, the 52 are just a tad small being in the middle, might be better on the pillar.

Not a must but I really like seeing the oil pressure, its more a false sense of security because it will probably be too late by the time I see the oil pressure is gone but I like to know, it was important enough for the 350z...

First of all I agree with Chuck, don't cheap on gauges! You will only save a few hundred bucks to go cheap so DON'T DO IT!

I looked at both the PLX and Zeitronixs because I was trying to run my entire setup with one gauge.

Zeitronixs limits to two readings but will provide an audio alarm for anything else it monitors to tell you to pull your foot out of it. I was going to run AFR and Boost with it and monitor oil temperature on the audit alarm. You couldn't get both oil pressure and temp.

PLX is nice because you can get the gauge that will monitor four items at once and if you plug into the OBDII it'll pull some stuff from the ECU that you can monitor. The draw backs were that you had to hook up, power and find space for five different 2"x3" modules if you were monitoring four items (the gauge module and one each for what you are monitoring), also a member on the forum was using them and he told me that at times the screen would freeze and the only way to correct it was to turn car on and off. Having four on screen still didn't allow me to monitor everything I wanted, which is AFR/Boost/Oil Temp&Press/Water Temp. I also recall that there were preset ways you could have the four gauge screen configure and it didn't allow the options I wanted on screen.

In the end I became comfortable with the fact that I needed more than one gauge. Ultimately I decided on Innovate for AFR and the GReddy Multi-gauge for Boost/Oil Press&Temp. I am also plugging water temp into the GReddy but will only monitor it every once in awhile to see what temps I'm getting while beating on it on hot days.

Awesome info guys! Now do you reccomend a specific vendor? z1? Anywhere?

Bought mine from Ryan at Moddiction he is a newer vendor, but I bought shift knobs from him before, good prices and super fast shipping. Also Z1 is good, and Joe at Zspeedperformance, between those vendors I have had excellent service. With gauges everyone will be in the ball park I would say.

My vendor list of excellence(no order):

Boosted Performance
Z1
Zspeedperformance
Moddiction
R/T Tuning

I bought my GReddy gauge from THMotorsports mainly because they offered 15% off all GReddy products so I saved $70 on it. The Innovate I bought off Amazon because it was $35 cheaper than anywhere else.

I have had great experience with the people listed by Joe except I've never dealt with R/T Tuning.

Again guys, thanks for the awesome info. It is very helpful.

So far im planning clutch/flywheel/cmc/csc, quaff rear diff, rear diff brace, guages, possible upgraded radiator and turbo kit and tune.

Just trying to get as much unforeseen crap planned for as possible.

After the kit ill be uprading from base brakes (dont need them right away, trying to go faster, not slow down ;) ) and electronic boost control.

Feel like I am missing tons of stuff, but maybe that is because this turbo kit comes with EVERYTHING.

Is there any need to upgrade MAF sensors?

Also can anyone think of a possible way to make it look like I have cats with this kit? Even if they are fake? Need to pass visual inspection only. Im thinking modifying the recirc pipes somehow to look like cats are on there, and hope for a dumb tech. I have test pipes now, and just slipped the guy 40 bucks to pass me. Dont think i will always get that lucky though

You could drill out the spot welds on the heat shields around a set of cats and rivet them around piping further downstream. It wouldn't fool a trained eye, but the dropout at Jiffylube wouldn't know the difference.

No need to upgrade the MAF sensors. The charge pipes are 2.75" and the OEM sensors are good for a lot more power than the stock block can handle.

If you do end up building the engine, I can always make some 3" charge pipes as well. This will be a lot cheaper than a pair of aftermarket MAF sensors.

Sasha you still planning to try and work up a stock oem downpipe with cats in it when the in-house build starts?

Yup.

I will try to make it on V-bands, that way you can just install the converter for inspection purposes, and then go back to a piece of straight pipe after the inspection is done. It would take about 5 minutes to swap it out once the car is up, and the area is accessible.

That sounds like an amazing idea!

Sasha, after the round is done, how soon do you expect the next round to roll out?

If I read into this properly you are going to make it to replace the last section of downpipe and recir piping? So for those of us that might want to run it full time it would v-band right up as a replacement for that last section?

Depending on exhaust fume smell once the car is fully tuned, I'm might order one from you to just run full time. I'd rather have something fabricated by you than have the random shop chop up the piping on the kit.

Might be a bit late to the party, but I still like my aeroforce gauges. For those that don't want alot of gauges it shows two perimeters and will allow you to automatically set up cycling of perimeters that are less important.

Or do this. It cost me $75 total for Bluetooth obdII and used tablet and I have displayed AFR/Boost/Water temp/Intake Temp/EGT's/Timing Advance/MAF/and my ever missed Speedo! Its incredible. Plus my background is CARVIS which plays off of Iron Mans JARVIS system. Same look like he has in his HUD. Everyone loves it. It also talks to you when you have hit certain limits! Which is even cooler than alarms..lol.. If that layout isn't your thing you can switch to any of hundreds of themes and create your own gauge layout and look.

It also reads out current Horsepower and Torque which I have on another page of the layout which you just swipe your finger across the tablet to view. You can have up to 6 different pages of gauges.

You can even track your cars route with it. It has a REAL mpg indicator if you punch in the numbers at the E85 pump station.

There are hundreds of other functions it can read but I couldn't think of anything else I wanted displayed that would actually be useful.

Also you can surf the web while driving which is super safe...lol.. But I stream Pandora through it and to my car speakers and I use google maps as my navi.

The only gauge I don't trust of it is Boost. I am still running a Defi boost gauge and oil pressure gauge.

I installed my clutch/flywheel/csc on Tuesday. Ill hopefully be starting the turbo install Wednesday. Talk about excited!

my intentions is to start right behind you on Friday. got a fed ex notice today, uprev on the way.

Hope to have a couple of kits around come May. Can't say for sure, but that is the goal.

Once I have one of the donor cars back (provided I can sway him to bring the car for a week) I would look in to alternatives in order to give you guys more options. I can't say that it would work out 100%, but it is something I would look in to for sure.

This would also mean another set of jigs for everything after the turbo, and that is time consuming.

One my setup with 3 inch GTM charge pipes I started to get close to maxing out my MAF's after 550whp our so. I do think a stock block car can get away with a little more than that.

Exciting!!! How did you find the install? Going to do mine by myself. What DIY thread did you use, if any?

[QUOTE=TopgunZ;2745621]Or do this. It cost me $75 total for Bluetooth obdII and used tablet and I have displayed AFR/Boost/Water temp/Intake Temp/EGT's/Timing Advance/MAF/and my ever missed Speedo! Its incredible. Plus my background is CARVIS which plays off of Iron Mans JARVIS system. Same look like he has in his HUD. Everyone loves it. It also talks to you when you have hit certain limits! Which is even cooler than alarms..lol.. If that layout isn't your thing you can switch to any of hundreds of themes and create your own gauge layout and look.

It also reads out current Horsepower and Torque which I have on another page of the layout which you just swipe your finger across the tablet to view. You can have up to 6 different pages of gauges.

You can even track your cars route with it. It has a REAL mpg indicator if you punch in the numbers at the E85 pump station.


Wow, this looks amazing! Sounds like a cheaper alternative too. How accurate do you find it?

Well the speedo matches exactly to my needle and the radars along side the road. Rev's are the exact same. The water temp is spot on. My AFR seems to be accurate. EGT's seem to be in the right ballpark. But again, I don't trust the boost gauge as it says the max boost level my car has ever seen is 1.5lbs which is impossible since I'm still NA..lol.

What program is that you are running on the tablet? Def looks sick

Its torque pro with the nissan advanced. Add on is the carvis but it came in a pack with a few other wicked themes.

My EBC is coming tuesday, any BP owners help me out with a diagram to plumb this thing?

Here's my chicken scratch from my HKS EVC-S http://i.imgur.com/PBFyLb9.png

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This is what I did.